Previously known as LITD.

After Sunday's tripe, please let me vent 74.

He won't be sacked. Not during the season. If we continue to stack up more losses like Sundays, he may retire. If we finish 14th again then I can't see him coaching us next year though. And if it gets to that would probably be for the best. And yea he's a premiership coach but like the players, you still have to keep performing. And if we have two years of no finals after two outs in straight sets, even after a flag, surely that's the breaking point. The North outcome strangely feels like the game we lost against Freo last year. At least we have time to turn it around but zim really not hopeful. And zi try to be. It's just Sundays game really exposed some deep core issues and it's not something a new coach could turn around promptly.

I had to quote you because there's no pull your head in emoji. Pyhi.

Kinda of like not doing anything to fix a dodgy forward line for three years. Yep the cubs shown some significant signs of craziness.

Changing coaches is not going to change the negligence of the club's poor drafting in regards to a decent hand for Max who could also help our fwd line. The club wasn't off course with the Grundy experience except for two small details... Grundy doesn't mark and he's no fwd. I mean other than that it was a brilliant move. Also it's not going to reverse the bad form of our only TWO tall/ fwds in Fritta and Jvr. ( Disco and Jeffo don't count as yet). Or produce another key fwd somehow. I mean it's not like Goody can put a rocket up these two by dropping them. We don't have anyone to fill their place. So there's that. However, I'll go to my grave yelling Goody cost us a flag with the five game part timer in Laurie as the sub when Gus was almost decapitated. Sure just one player but we were effectively one man down because of it in a game that went down to the wire. And while Goody couldn't predict the sub would be needed for the whole game, that's kinda of the point. Laurie was so far out of his depth in a normal game not to mention a final in front of 80 odd thousand. My goodness Simon, what were you thinking? I know, I know, it's history. But how often do you get a double chance in this game? And this is why he gets the benefit of any doubt. Flags are just so rare, you have to hang on with both arms to any coach that delivers one. But one thing for sure, complacency is a success killer in this game, so it's a fine line. In any event, these things have a momentum all of their own. A couple more performances like Sundays and the noise around Goody will get very loud. And while I'm sure the club will keep him all year, failure to make finals again will produce a cacophony of coach killing calls, that the decision will be made for it. Just saying.

Good point. Norths pressure with its high tackle count and numbers to the contest seemed far superior to our efforts. Especially in our fwd line. Our fwd pressure was terrible. N M seemed to waltz it out of their backline at leisure. Sometimes straight down the guts which often involved a score. Their clearance effort was far better too. Our over the head handballs rarely found their mark. In fact a lot of them were look away ones because of North's pressure. Suffice to say they didn't work either. Funny that.

What did Goody actually say about Max? Did he suggest Max was having some issues outside of the game? If so, is he out of line? Max has been the heart and soul of this club for the last decade and I personally would not be fussed if he ran over a seeing eye dog.

Viney should not be dropped. Fritta is very lucky. But I dare say if we play like this again this weekend, then the calls for Goodys head will start to grow. He's a premiership coach and that counts for heaps. But as the old saying goes ...a week is a long time in footy. Would be a shame to lose him but after yesterday, I'm not sure we are heading in the right direction. At what point do we seriously consider his replacement? Does failure to make finals again this year count?

Absolutely needs to be dropped. But we who can we replace him with? Probably doesn't matter because you can't gift him another game after that.

Ditto

Absolutely not. Well maybe Turner but we do not have that luxury as yet. And the high hopes for Jvr to be another champion chf are fading fast. I don't think putting him the ruck last year helped his form and confidence. As for Disco he's a lovely shot at goal but i think we are messing him around too by playing him in a position he's not really suited for. Id certainly try May fwd but we tried Petty there and it didn't work in the slightest. Here's an idea Mfc, rather than having to keep trialling players in positions they are not suitable for, how about simply recruiting some who are?

For sure. They still have issues growing grass due to the silly orientation of the ground and it's stand heights so there's that.

We haven't rebuilt the fwd line. I'm glad we are giving Jeffo a run but we really only have one replacement for Jvr and Fritta and that's Milkshake. And his body must be close to cooked. And he's not a tall fwd either. And Turner hasn't proven himself as a fwd yet. So yea my expectations are in check with a fwd line of Fritta, Jvr and Disco. For sure. But yesterday it wasn't just our fwd line. It was the entire team. Apologies to Chandler. But sheesh one player against last year's second last team. Now I really have no expectations

Yep. We played well against the giants but to be comprehensively smashed by last year's second last team is demoralizing. Fritta should be dropped for a month for his performance. Not a single tackle off the back of a lethargic game prior and a lackluster year last. It's one thing to have an off day but the zero tackle count really speaks towards attitude. I didn't play a great deal of the game and for sure wasn't very good but I always knew that if had trouble getting a kick, I could always lay a tackle. But the club hasn't really recruited any decent replacement for him for three years now. No wonder he doesn't fire. A game each week is a given.

Thank you. Someone's head should roll. Surely. I really don't know that much about footy but I certainly know that we have done absolutely nothing to fix our fwd line set up. Credit for trying the Grundy experience but we let him go and didn't bring in any replacement. It's just baffling

This is what really urks me. We've all said it. Those responsible need to go. Now. And as for the players that openly talked about trades, do we really want them at the club?

We have relied on May, Lever, Oliver, Max, Tracc, Fritta and Kozzie. Two were out. The two midfielders have been all over the place . Max gets no support and Lever and Fritta have gone backwards.

A couple more performances like this and absolutely.

Not disagreeing but how well did we do without one in 23? Melksham made a big difference and without Gus going down we would have more than likely won a flag. And yet here we are 18 months later playing like this. It's mind boggling. We know that we have had some players that have had trouble that has been advertised outside of the club. Our backline today put in its worst effort I can remember. But back to our fwd line, Fritta has a lot to answer for and Jvr has definitely gone backwards big time. Why has the club been so lazy on not addressing this glaring dearth of consistent talent? There's an old saying that complacency brings failure. Perhaps winning a flag after so long has contributed. For whatever reason, this was a great list we had and it deserved more than one flag. Surely heads must roll.

What the hell happened?

Very worrying signs.

I think it would be almost fair to call or season finished after this game. It's a long list of non performers but Fritta not laying a single tackle sims him up. It's one thing to be out of form but not laying a tackle speaks about intent and attitude I'm afraid. Props to Chandler and JV today but I'm struggling to find any other positives. I feel like the wheels fell off today and this will be like the Freo game last year. It's early in the season and I think last week exhausted us but the ot was the skill level that troubled me all day. Plus the predicament I mentioned pregame about not having a fwd line three years in a row. So there's that. Goody is officially under the pump and that's not easy for a premier coach.

No. He's still a very good player. Trouble is he's had to carry everything by himself for eons. The club admitted as much when it recruited Grundy. Did it bother replacing him ? Na. Just didn't care.

I want to see a lot of players dropped after today. But what I really want is every single person at the club responsible for not fixing our fwd line issues that have been so glaringly obvious for just too long. Surely that's fair. I think those of us who pay their membership and go each week deserve a lot better than this. Much,much ,much, better. It's hard to understand that we won a flag less than only FOUR years ago. And how far we have fallen since we almost beat the 23 premiers and we're likely to win a flag. I guess there are a couple of superstar midfielders that let us down and the club has done the rest. It's a shame really. I know it's early days but I think this will be a bad marker like that Freo game when things went belly up. I know it's not Goodys fault but I think it's alarm bells now and time to panic.... Time for a sweep for me. Cheers guys.

Yep. And to think we pinned our season on him last year as a fwd. He was good last week but had a mare today . And some people were complaining about the time slots we have. No wonder when we serve this type of tripe. I'm laying the blame totally on the club. How many of us have been howling about our abysmal fwd line? I hope Fritta gets dropped for a month. I don't care . It's one thing to not touch the pill but it's inexcusable to have not laid a single discernable tackle. See ya Fritta. Jvr has gone totally backwards. Oliver and Coney and Chandler have done well. But so many of them have been terrible. But the club goes first in blame for not having any players we can replace any of these players up forward. Big time.