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Spare a thought for poor old Freo... there famous numbers are.....

I probably didn't phrase it as well as I could have, but I think we're on the same page.... The Prima Facie case was one of trafficking, Stokes may have been able to argue his case down.... except he made an admission of fact... because he can't lie straight in bed.... how ironic. What I find even more ironic is that a bloke that's paid somewhere around 200k a year to play football has just [censored] away his career for $500 of blow.... oh well too bad so sad, maybe when the court hands down its verdict he can go to Haiti and tell the locals how tough life is....

Bert Chadwick and Denis Cordner before he wore #1 (changed when he became captain I think) That's two pretty big names. If Strauss can emulate Brett Lovett and become the rock of half back then 17 would be very appropriate.

The AFL drug code is a farce.

Under the legislation the charge is based on the quantity of drugs. If it's over a certain amount it counts as trafficking - plus he stated that he naively bought it for his mates - which I'm sure his lawyer has now told him is actually an admission in relation to trafficking. He knew where to get the drugs from, but his drug taking mates did not, and of course his conversation with the dealer about the cocaine being "good [censored]" was about a completely unrelated matter.

Martin Pike Matthew Bishop Tony Elshaug Crackers Keenan Players that turned their backs on the club, but didn't get a premiership: Gerard Healy Troy Longmuir Jeff Farmer Steven Powell & Scott Thompson Chris Johnson Brock McLean

I'm sure I heard on ABC radio one of the major sticking points will be FIFAs insistence (as per previous contracts) stating that no rival codes are allowed to conduct their competitions in any of the participating cities and they need at least 12 stadiums of 50K capacity. I have no interest in any other rival code, but my level of antipathy will rise to new heights if this goes ahead.

Spunj, you had me at "hello". Two words... Nick Smith.

I got the impression from reading the article in the age this morning that GC are intending to use their rookie picks to take experienced players to supplement their kids... that may include guys like Juice and Mees... maybe not, we'll know soon enough.

Exactly. The whole rate the draft is a waste of space. We'll know in the fullness of time. I doubt any recruiters woke up the next day thinking "gee we buggered that up didn't we".

James Sellar isn't guaranteed, John Meesen and Fergus Watts are busts ... Adelaide picked four blokes between 191-195 cms... why is that? Their history doesn't support your assertion.

Well.... and I'm just guessing here... I think the recruiting department may have had slightly more insight into his ability than the one clip on youtube. That the consensus didn't have him going as early as pick 11 doesn't worry me. If all we needed was consensus to pick players then the club could save it's money on staff by using the plethora of phantom drafts to make it's choices. I'll back the professionals over the amateurs every time. Plenty wanted a KPP for pick 11 and again the consensus was that either Talia or Black were the two most likely. Talia went to a club whose track record of selecting first round talls isn't exactly flash (Fergus Watts, Meesen, Sellar) and Black slipped to 25 - which suggests plenty of other clubs had their doubts as well. Only time will tell, but I think the selection of Gysberts (second for kicking at the draft camp) and Strauss and Blease last year shows the emphasis that BP and DB place on being able to hit targets.

My guess is that we'd have to pay out the final year of both their contracts and we have two vacancies on our rookie list. (you can't use any more picks after you've passed - rookie upgrades in the ND aside) GC have the first five rookie selections then we have pick 6. If GC take one of them then it free's up a selection, but we're basically obligated to use our picks on Juice and Mees if they're still available.

They'll be shattered.

I'm not sure if it was intentional, but it's hardly a surprise CC states we're taking two midfielders at 1&2.

Save your puerile observations for the Collingwood forums, they're not welcome here.

There were some interesting comments re Kane's disposal as a junior and his loss of form/confidence since a little while ago... I think it may have been by Liam Pickering. As you say he was highly regarded and some were of the opinion we should have drafted him instead of Brock. Obviously few of us have really had a good opportunity to judge him for the last 24mths (unless we were following Geelongs VFL team), but he's worth examining. He's got a mature body now and is still quick -hopefully Kelly O'Donnell and Mark Yeates can weave some magic.

The Lions have said they will definately take him if available in the draft and they have a pick after Essendon and before Collingwood.

Wealthy?

As BB King would say... "The thrill is gone" It's interesting to see that quite a few clubs have up to seven or eight live picks in the ND/PSD and quite a few rookie selections.... make hay while the sun shines I guess, but I see the storm clouds (GC&WS) gathering.

No faint praise considering Nat is a running machine himself.... nice work.

2 to 1 is way too generous. Brisbane have already declared they'll take him and they have pick 27, You'd also think Essendon would use either 24 or 26 before then as well.

Cam Bruce can be promoted to the Veterans list which frees up another spot. The indications from the club are that intends to use 34 and 50 so at least one more player has to go, and perhaps more if we want to promote a rookie.

Agree, his body has consistently failed him, - are our facilities any better than Norths? I'd be more interested in Joel McDonald if he goes into the ND and was still available at 34.

or Sydney. It depends on whether he's after certainty. What are his priorities? If he wants to earn a good living without leaving Melbourne he'd be rolling the dice going into the PSD.