3 hours ago, Demon17 said:

This is a disgraceful thread/idea.

The current players are innocent and this is mean- spirited at the least.

What goes around comes around. Draft fixing by us a few years ago?

Oh wait- that didn't happen did it?  Chris Connolly said so didn't he?

I will be ashamed to be part of a demon crowd tomorrow that participated is this process, not to mention the example so-called adults are setting to younger fans in the crowd.

 

These matters are about passion,  & allowing the passion out in expression.   We all feel this,  but you want to be deceitful of your feelings & not let them show?   Or you just prefer to keep stiff upper lips D17..   either way you will be disappointed,  as people will boo,  hiss,  turn their backs,  remain silent,  etc,  as a protest.

They will express how they feel about this club & its actions....  & so they should.   This IS why we have brains,  voices,  ears;  to communicate what is on our minds.

Footy is all about letting of steam  & forgetting about all the weekday humdrum,  & letting the hair down.  Let your true self out D17,  Do not be ashamed of yourself.  Life is too short to be so uptight.

4 hours ago, AzzKikA said:

WTF are they thinking?  This Club is more [censored] up than i thought.

.....  this will be Sheed's idea...    no doubt he crystal balled this season,  & he can see the bummer supporters getting mighty Unhappy & losing their fighting qualities following loss after loss,  this season.

IMO he is trying to save the anger & desire of the the bummer support base.   It's a culture that breeds winning,  which he built at the bummers in his decades of work & premierships over there.

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7 hours ago, Ted Fidge said:

How prosaic. What a downer. Can't you do better than that?

"The gif brings the viewer face to face with their own preconceived hierarchy of cultural values and assumptions of worth."

"The gif imaginatively propels its viewer forward into the seemingly infinite progression of possible reproductions that the OP engenders, whilst simultaneously pulling them backwards in a quest for the original source or referent that underlines the thread's oeuvre."

Something we can sink our teeth into.

an exploration !!!    the possibility of any number of possibilities,   go ahead & narrow them down,  with your IQ filters ?

....  not for strict christian or other sects consumption.  too liberating.

15 hours ago, whers_jacka_now said:

no idea thats why i asked. People that would rather enter obscure gifs than use words border on illiterate. And in this day and age that frustrates me. WTF does yur gif mean?

sometimes,  a picture conveys a very broad possibility of concepts.....  these ones are meant to tease & to challenge whoever is interested,  to look into the image & imagine,  just what it could mean. 

Its an inner adventure,  w_J_n     -  -  -  -  -  insight availability is necessary  to be able to do this, & it also strengthens insight,  practicing it.

but those who are too confronted,  or too lazy,  won't bother.

19 minutes ago, nutbean said:

This really needs to be looked at.

We can debate "affiliation vs stand alone" but to me the bigger issue is this league not starting and finishing their season at the same time as the AFL.

The first game is 9th April  - which is already AFL round 3. We need to be getting real game time ( even if it is limited minutes) into Petracca and Trengove and allow the likes of Stretch, ANB and others to show good game form and put pressure on the seniors - makes it more difficult for them when their chance to shine is two weeks behind the AFL schedule.  

Actually i want the VFL to finish 2 or 3 weeks earlier than the AFL Grand Final.   AFL players do not need a VFL practice match in the 3rd week of the afl Finals series.

But I agree with you 'nut',   the VFL season should start at the same time as AFL.... or even a week earlier,  if can be managed.  this would help players needing a solid hitout because of delayed pre-season fitness issues.

Also I'd like to see the VFL not take bye weekends, but individual teams a week off along the season,  for schedule balance.

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I was surprised they dropped Bird and Simpkin. Both senior bodies with experience who could give the kids a chop out.

I mean they have named Parish as rover and he has to come up against the likes of Jones Viney Oliver Brayshaw and Vandenberg......

they have a big rebuild in front of them,  they want the players to be very competative, but they will ensure they have the very first pick in November,  so early season qualifying is crucial to them..... sssshhhh.   

Don't tell their players tho.   That will spoil the show.

12 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Exactly, play the ball, don't go looking for the cheap stuff but opportunities will arise   and we must take them. No we can't get ahead of ourselves but this game should be over by half time at the latest, we need to fine tune our physicality and hardness at the footy is readiness of North Melbourne. 

Yes...  we have to start to develop the non choir boys attitude, out on the park.   It is meant to be a physical game.  That doesn't mean you aim for the head,  that is cheap & a bit soft.  hit body's hard,  & hurt them.

It is meant to sort out the rugged from the others.   This is why we play contact sort. 

All the while having our minds on supplying our forward players with plenty of opportunities to score.

2 hours ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

I thought Earl Spalding must have returned to the club when I saw that heading.

We should never have got rid of that guy.

Tough?    He dislocated both shoulders of a Swan player in Sydney(?Bolton) with one bump.  He managed to knee Dunstall's head in.....? Deliberately. Couldn't kick, but a power forward.

I was wondering if he had a father son prodigy.

4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Not sure where to put this but as it relates to last Sat this thread will do. 

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/melbourne-demons-president-glen-bartlett-reflects-on-a-tumultuous-24-hours-leading-into-round-1/news-story/4268c29c3f4daaf6efab55ce51f8e52e

Its a highly personal story that details the heart wrenching and heartwarming drama that our President and his family endured when his 19 year old son Josh went into cardiac arrest last Friday.  After a harrowing week with his health, the next 24 hours were a parent's worst nightmare.  Our President with Josh's permission attended the GWS game.  Josh was having surgery when the ball was bounced. Shortly after the final siren Glen Bartlett received the call that his son had survived the surgery.  It seems the medical team were in overdrive to save Josh.  He now has a long road to recovery. 

Josh must be a quite incredible young man and obviously a Dees supporter.  A quote from the article: " Following 35 hours in an induced coma, all he wanted to do was find out the footy score after he woke up."  Very moving. 

It is an amazing story of hanging in there no matter how tough things are.  It feels trite to say I wish him well as I don't know him.  But I feel inspired by the story.  And I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery. 

It was good to see Jack V in their with him this week.  Hope Josh Barlett's experience inspires our team to give it everything they have.

thank god he's OK.  wow.  

congrats to Josh & Glen & the Bartlet family...   well played Josh.

On 29/03/2016 at 5:56 PM, Nasher said:

Interesting, I found that really hard to break down.  The only solution I came up with that worked:

Coach A:
5 Viney
4 Davis or Watts
3 Ward
2 McDonald
1 Davis or Watts
0 Hogan

Coach B:
5 Viney
4 McDonald
3 Davis or Watts
2 Ward
1 Hogan
0 Davis or Watts

One of the coaches didn't rate either Davis or Watts worth a vote.  I think it makes more sense for the 1 and 0 to be Davis, as I find it hard to justify saying he was better than Watts on the day.
 

On 29/03/2016 at 7:37 AM, Nasher said:

Except of course it can't be 0 and 1 for Davis because that doesn't add up to 4, idiot.

Must have been tired when I posted that yesterday. 

  go ahead Punk!!!!  make your Day!!! 

On 29/03/2016 at 8:35 AM, doc roet said:

This post probably doesn't belong here either but some might find it humorous.

I'm at home recovering from a hip replacement,so have read nearly every god damed post on demonland.

That game against GWS must had had an effect on me.

I had a dream--- I was on the boundary at the essendon game,the bommers were coming home with a rush.

Roos was full back and needing to kick it in.There was 7 seconds to go.I was screaming 'give him a lead' just for possession footy.

Turd was playing too.Omac finally managed to break free from Hird,Roos handballed to Omac,and Omac tried to handball back over

Hirds head, back to Roos,but the Turd intercepted and goaled.

I feel sick.

well, we'll just have to go out & crash that HooDoo for you,  guru.    can't have our longterm supporters living with PTSD... 

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2 hours ago, Peter Griffen said:

In fairness to them, their centre line looks OK..

 

Goddard    Zaharakis    Merritt

the rest is rubbish.

would have thought Parish was a long way off being able to compete on the inside with any of our mids.

goddard slow,  zaharakis is a winger, small.  merrit don't know.

We have to go in hard in this game & show the bummers what for.   Now is the time to set a new example of the physical Demons.  Just not get reported boys..

Bang them up...  set a new standard for this bruise-free Demon outfit.  And what better team to start on but the bummers.   Sticking to our game plan,  but when the opportunity to hurt them comes,,,  do it.

4 hours ago, old dee said:

Sorry nutbean I made a mistake I have the smugness bit in 2016. We will win ten games it is done and dusted.

So much so that I have stopped looking at who it selected in the team because it does not matter we will win ten games no matter who we select.

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Wow OD you are a new man. The psychotherapy has done wonders. This must mean something. I was going to post a cautious comment like I will stop worrying when we have a consistent run of sustained success but that sounds a little pessimistic. So I will say we should win this one. 

I wonder if MaCa is weaving its magic off field, on OD ?

35 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Suspense over: Brayshaw, Lumumba return for Melbourne  http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-03-31/brayshaw-lumumba-return-for-melbourne

B: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Heritier Lumumba
HB: Matt Jones, Colin Garland, Christian Salem
C: Bernie Vince, Jack Viney, Aaron vandenBerg
HF: Jack Watts, Cam Pedersen, James Harmes
F: Dean Kent, Jesse Hogan, Jeff Garlett
Foll: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Dom Tyson
I/C: Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver, Tom Bugg, Ben Kennedy
Emg: Lynden Dunn, Billy Stretch, Sam Frost
In: Lumumba, Brayshaw
Out: Oscar McDonald (ankle), Sam Frost

Doesn't bode well for Dunn in that he doesn't appear to be an 'automatic' for starting 22.

Great to see Gus back. 

* surprised Gus got back this week,  other than he needs a run before the North game.

* Lamumba,  we need in for his Dash.  We missed run & speed last week from what I could hear.

* Frost dropped ? I got that wrong.  ah, he's on the emerg's...  this is how they fitted Angus into the 22.  lose a tall, play an extra runner.  Ok with Brayshaw..

expect more rotations this week.

4 hours ago, old dee said:

Sorry nutbean I made a mistake I have the smugness bit in 2016. We will win ten games it is done and dusted.

So much so that I have stopped looking at who it selected in the team because it does not matter we will win ten games no matter who we select.

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Wow OD you are a new man. The psychotherapy has done wonders. This must mean something. I was going to post a cautious comment like I will stop worrying when we have a consistent run of sustained success but that sounds a little pessimistic. So I will say we should win this one. 

I wonder if MaCa is weaving its magic off field, on OD ?

35 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Suspense over: Brayshaw, Lumumba return for Melbourne  http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-03-31/brayshaw-lumumba-return-for-melbourne

B: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Heritier Lumumba
HB: Matt Jones, Colin Garland, Christian Salem
C: Bernie Vince, Jack Viney, Aaron vandenBerg
HF: Jack Watts, Cam Pedersen, James Harmes
F: Dean Kent, Jesse Hogan, Jeff Garlett
Foll: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Dom Tyson
I/C: Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver, Tom Bugg, Ben Kennedy
Emg: Lynden Dunn, Billy Stretch, Sam Frost
In: Lumumba, Brayshaw
Out: Oscar McDonald (ankle), Sam Frost

Doesn't bode well for Dunn in that he doesn't appear to be an 'automatic' for starting 22.

Great to see Gus back. 

* surprised Gus got back this week,  other than he needs a run before the North game.

* Lamumba,  we need in for his Dash.  We missed run & speed last week from what I could hear.

* Frost dropped ? I got that wrong.  ah, he's on the emerg's...  this is how they fitted Angus into the 22.  lose a tall, play an extra runner.  Ok with Brayshaw..

14 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Misson's comment was that Spencer has just started working "outside", I interpreted that as progressing and that it's more about incremental work load and condition steps now rather than injury recovery per se.

It certainly didn't sound rubbery like it did with Frost last year. I guess we'll know soon enough! 

yeah, I think he'll have to build up his muscle tone around the injured foot,  & pickup lost fitness.

35 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Exactly, but when it all comes down to it Channel 7 couldn't give a rats ass about what the supporters want all they care about is making more money. And that is there job so fair enough i dont have a problem with a broadcaster who's main purpose is to make money prioritising that. It's the AFL's responsibility (who rely on fans for success) to look out for their fans and right now they dont do a very good job when it comes to broadcast/streaming rights. They say they have negotiations but clearly the AFL does nothing but sit and listen to Channels 7, 9 and 10 all say they want to broadcast and regardless of their plans the AFL sits there with glazed over eyes signing "Money money money" in their heads.

... I feel i went on a bit of an unintentional rant just there but the point is don't blame channel 7, blame the AFL they should never have given broadcasters so much power

well the thing to do is stop watching other clubs televised games like the Pies & the Bummers.  They greedily take the bulk of live TV.  at the expense of struggling clubs.. Its unequal opportunity, causing inequity,  resulting in handouts.  >  Unsustainable.

So don't patronise the Bummers & the Pies.  Or do, at Our expense.   Protest by not being a part of the problem.  support the underdog.  Us atmo.

13 hours ago, Nasher said:

Haven't seen anything published; this is derived from Misson's injury report: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2016-03-30/rd-2-david-misson-injury-report.

Apparently McDonald and King had very similar injuries, no structural damage and well on the way to recovery.  Both expected to play this weekend.  

As expected, Trengove and Petracca expected to play in the VFL this weekend with varying game time.  

No mention of H or Brayshaw which I take to mean fully available and ready to go.

The full list:
Oscar McDonald - ankle - test
Max King - ankle - test
Chris Dawes - calf - 3 weeks
Jake Spencer - foot - 4-6 weeks

 

13 hours ago, fndee said:

Great list aside from Spencer. We have pretty much no ruck back up. Scary.

Can someone please explain how the Brent Harvey/Jake Spencer thing of fully "popping" the plantar fasciitis leads to a reduced rehab time.

not sure fnd.   Now that Spencer has torn the plantar fascia,  I think he might be back sooner, now its completely gone.  Once the soreness goes?  I'd be surprised if he's still off in 5 weeks.

On 23/03/2016 at 6:07 PM, Bitter but optimistic said:

Calf injuries are lingering and recurring bastards - particularly as you get older.

do you have calves Bbo. my imagination cannot venture down that far. 

by the way, Here just in case >

https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/herbs-and-spices/stinging-nettle.html

http://www.theresagrisanti.com/stinging-nettle-natures-supplement.html

http://www.herbwisdom.com/herb-nettle.html

It is also used in many libido enhancer products on the shelves of chemists & health shops for its circulatory benefits.  so helps with repair of muscle tissue & skin ailments allowing better circulation to extremities & poor blood supply areas.

13 hours ago, Giles said:

Normally I would. But I'll be out of town with the family. Wanted to record it, but no dice.

Maybe I could just subscribe to Foxtail like everybody else.

Dees footy live,   & then video replays posted later   >>>>>>>  http://demonology.me/

reckon its not about a lacklustre leader,  but its about the governments policy principles.  

its comes down to cabinet...  the leader is really a vocal puppet on a string

see  >

&   ^  ^  ^  ^

4 hours ago, ManDee said:

  Touching Woody?

that looks like Peter Allen?

Telstra... No thanks.

I've just organised to cut ties with them.  can't happen quick enough ... shocking service for mobile broadband. won't give me adsl....  shocking carp...

Can't wait to be rid of those rip off merchants.

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9 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Just mentioned on fox that Brayshaw will play VFL this week. 

He must be more underdone than I thought cause I would have had him in the team this week. 

Her injured his knee couldn't run much for some time, & hasn't had any decent match practice to get a good blowout.  and so he can't force anyone out of the team on form basis.

43 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

Dunno if that's praise or not. Plough might not even get a game these days. He was a terrific ball extractor but a horrible kick. Worse than Todd Viney.

'ploughs' style was as a slow player, he got plenty of ball & linked up really well,  ran all game plowing the field as he want. a key player in his sides.  yeah short kick, jamtin.  Some here are mentioning Tyson's kicking.

We need a run all game collector of footy.  especially as the rotations get reduced.  Time to start him now on endurance running.

I still want to see how Jack goes when the physical Heat is applied to him, as he plays better.   Lets not boo the opposition who dare to test him...   He needs to be tested, & we need him to be tested,   & he will be soon,  so that he can take that next step.

I want to see him respond in kind,  when that heat comes.

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4 hours ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Since he is such a hot topic at the minute, here is my 2 cents about Tyson:

He has 2 major problems, he is slow and he is a terrible kick.
Now the latter is the lesser of the problems, for a midfielder at least, we can probably deal with 60% efficiency by foot if he can keep his hands up around 80-85%. Judd and Swan are both brownlow medal proof that you dont have to be a glorious kick to be a star midfielder as long as you can get your hands on the footy and give it to someone who is. we'll all love tyson forever if he gets the ball in and under and hands it out to le like of salem running past who has the skill to hit someone lace out.

The bigger problem I see is he is slow moving the ball on, he gets caught holding the ball more than any other player in the competition, and this is harder to fix. People calling for him to be dropped but I feel he will dominate in the VFL simply due to the extra time he has. IMO we have to persist with him at AFL level and he has to get better at moving the ball on quicker. Going down a level and playing exactly the same might help his confidence but wont change the fact he will continue to get caught at the top level. I'm open to sugestions as to how the VFL could improve this skill but right now i just cant see it helping  

Play him at Casey in the forward pocket or flank, & rotate thru midfield, not to the bench, building his endurance.   Tell him to work on his outside game & to kick lots of goals.  And to feed the ball linking to the runner coming past.  

Hopefully he'll end up being tagged when forward,  forcing him to get mentally faster ?

If he's that slow he'll have to learn to get quicker in mind,  then maybe do the same at AFL with him, during rotations?  If we can get his endurance up maybe he could end up a plough Wallace type.