dee-luded

20 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

Tony Turnbull has now acted decisively in calling what will be a DD, I have no doubt because he doesn't really want the Senate to pass the 2 workplace bills and hopes the senators won't. Now as he said the time for playing games is over and it is now of vital national importance that we have this election to determine what? You might think the issues of national importance might be to do with fixing our budget or education inequalities or health or defence or the environment and climate change or the financial sector scandals that are uncovered every week or the tax embargo Being conducted by businesses of all sizes, both local and foreign. 

Well your our dead wrong, the biggest issue facing the nation is the CFMEU and the risk to the "new economy" these thugs pose! Their activities are imperilling the productivity of the construction sector. Last time I walked through the CBD there was a frenzy of apartment building, fuelled by Asian investors and decoupled from local demand for that type of housing, a property bubble in the making! 

Tony Turnbull's interviews yesterday equalled any of the self serving dribble ever uttered by The Abbott or Johnny H.  A total fact free diatribe about the disastrous impact of unions full of nasty, foul mouthed thugs that so shocked the royal commissioner who is more used to dealing with well spoken, private schooled lawyers. 

This is all putting a break on the new economy, whatever that is! Nothing to do with science or communications if we are to take TT's previous actions versus his rhetoric re CSIRO and the NBN. 

I really thought we might get something better from Malcolm 

Malcolm Turnbull is trying to appear like he's in control,  since Jeff Kennett & others thru the media,  have called him weak soft & a non leader.

I think he is still on the outer within the Liberal party,  & so therefore those who sided with Turnbull in the challenge,  have backed their positions into a corner Re other cabinet members,  & Lib power players.

The Liberals are split (but quietly),  but playing these game to get to the election. in a winning position. 

I think Turnbull would like to go on leading,,,  but IMO he recognises he may not last very long,  if the Liberals win this election.

This is why IMO  the rabbot  has started firing shots across Turnbulls bow from a distance,  via the media,  to stay somewhat relevant & in his inner supporters,  & Liberal voters minds.

I think Pyne is in this up to his curly ones.  playing the 2 sided game...  hiding the rabbot away prior to the election,   & then later they will harpoon Turnbull at some early-ish point, & have an urgent mini budget,  following winning this 2016 DD Election.

Then the old razor gang will reemerge & those horrid cuts to those who cannot afford it will take place.

The far right wing around the world are rising with a vengeance,  just as the Islamist's & terrorists are rising...  its all driven by the angry spirit driving this time of troubles which we have entered. 

this will IMO lead us to the point of giving up on greedy capitalist ways...   as we go thru No-time...   prior to us entering the new time.  (AOA)

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2 hours ago, Demonland said:

http://footytips.com.au

Check out the official thread: 

 

ah, it was the footytips site... i didn't recognise it....  & I don't have my bookmarks up to date in this old thing. 

thanks DLand

errgh,  I have to get my other computer up & running.

On 16/03/2016 at 5:00 PM, Demonland said:

Yes. I will set it up this week and link to it. If you were a member last year it should automatically add you but I will post details shortly. 

I was just looking for the site 7 can't remember the web name?  i'm on an old computer.

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jack Riewoldt Brian Lake and Dyson Heppell will be the new guests this year..

Thats enough for me to ever watch that show again.

question, will Heppell leave the bummers ?

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jack Riewoldt Brian Lake and Dyson Heppell will be the new guests this year..

Thats enough for me to ever watch that show again.

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On 21/03/2016 at 11:07 AM, nutbean said:

You may be right.

As a generalisation - I have seen and heard from a number of artists who have certainly forgotten why they became successful. They forgot that it is us the punters that buy their albums and pay money for to see their gigs.

alcoholism effects peoples perception & sways their values.  They lie to themselves,  like a serial narcissist does.  good health has left the building.

3 hours ago, CBDees said:

Dees by seven goals to finish 2nd on the Ladder after Round One. The following week we will be top of the AFL Ladder with a healthy percentage after beating Essendon by a lazy ten majors.

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Dees by 24pts. 

Hogan with 4. Gawn 7 marks and 437 hit outs. Oliver 27 possies.

Demonland goes into meltdown and crashes. There are riots in the streets.

thats after the Essendon game...

53 minutes ago, mo64 said:

There are a couple of things that I'd like to see Hogan get out of his game. One is throwing his hands up when a teammate doesn't kick the ball to him. The other is whinging to the umpires when he doesn't get a free. In the Saints game, he started whinging about a free when the ball was still in play and in his vicinity. 

 

really,  well if that's the case,  lets stop all this talk of ultra long contracts...   let's let him be a footballer,  & stop pumping him up too high.

Maybe we should lock the Hogan contract thread for some months?

14 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

Doesn't really name Hogan.. he's mentioning the whole group of kids

BTW humble pie for everyone who gave CP a pass with their 'boys will be boys' rubbish. There it is in black and white, he was acting a fool

I wouldn't call him a fool, but I'm just a knockabout 70's lad.

Foolish breaking his toe, yes, trying to slam dunk.  But you do not stop living,  & live in a cotton wool box.   What if he hurt his back swinging a golf club.  Would you call him foolish for that?

14 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

Doesn't really name Hogan.. he's mentioning the whole group of kids

BTW humble pie for everyone who gave CP a pass with their 'boys will be boys' rubbish. There it is in black and white, he was acting a fool

I wouldn't call him a fool, but I'm just a knockabout 70's lad.

Foolish breaking his toe, yes, trying to slam dunk.  But you do not stop living,  & live in a cotton wool box.   What if he hurt his back swinging a golf club.  Would you call him foolish for that?

13 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

Doesn't really name Hogan.. he's mentioning the whole group of kids

BTW humble pie for everyone who gave CP a pass with their 'boys will be boys' rubbish. There it is in black and white, he was acting a fool

I wouldn't call him a fool, but I'm just a knockabout 70's lad.

Foolish breaking his toe, yes, trying to slam dunk.  But you do not stop living,  & live in a cotton wool box.   What if he hurt his back swinging a golf club.  Would you call him foolish for that?

1 hour ago, nutbean said:

Basically she is saying that her time is much more important than your time - irrespective of any inconvenience to you.

Behavior like hers absolutely tells me that her ego has completely made her forget that it is us, the punters, that gave her the success she has enjoyed.

I sense differently Nut.   All the hints that I've witnessed in the TV news items of the last couple of weeks,  suggest to me she has an Illness... lots of little unprofessional things that would have been out of character 15 years back for her. 

That little hip flask suggests loudly,  IMO.

On 19/03/2016 at 8:06 AM, The Great Pretender said:

Now aggression at the football is a different matter. That comes from within.

And this is what this thread is all about..     'the why'  we cannot maintain the hunger & rage,  to stay a power.

Where that inner aggression at all contests,  onfield  & from our administrators,  keeps withering on the vine at this club...  Why.   Last time it took about 10 years & then started going sour.

Still up top but not going anywhere.   The culture can be going off even when the club is top 2.. 

The results of souring culture take time to show themselves.  But takes years to repair....  We as supporters have to learn to notice these things so we can stop this happening again. or make board changes if it happens in future times..

We are traveling in a constructive direction currently.

9 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

This is what we would call in Latin 'a non sequitur'.
What's Ron Barassi screaming at players 40 years ago got to do with anything now and what has it got to do with player's commitment and aggression on the field? There are no words I can use to describe the kind of mental disconnect present here. It's like thinking that drinking a bottle of Jim Beam will help you clean your garage up. The two actions just have no relationship.
If you wanted to make a point about on field aggression, why not have some footage of Whelan cleaning up James Hird, Neita shirt fronting Luke McCabe or, if you wanted to get really controversial, Balls Grinter breaking Terry Wallace's jaw? 
And by the way, I remember that you were complaining about the club 'losing their nerve' by sacking Mark Neeld 3 years ago when it was clear to most that we were going backwards at a staggering rate. 

you've totally missed the point CBF.

This thread has nothing to do with a screaming coach,  & not to do with Roosy demeanor at all. 

Its all about what Roosy has struggled with to rebuild us.  to reinstate competativeness & hunger for the contest.

2 hours ago, ickey_11 said:

With the limit on rotations, who will play forward or back? Which forwards will spend time in the midfield?

It is going to be interesting to see how this plays out this year, I see Brayshaw , Petracca and Vandenberg rotating through midflield and forward. Will ANB, Stretch, JKH(If he gets a game), Kent, Harmes, & Garlett play midfield?

Like the good old times where the ruck-rovers and rovers rested in the pockets.

I think Brayshaw will get in the 22, & that they will play him from the bench. He was apparently out on his feet trying to impress so he may need rotations to catchup match fitness at AFL level?

Oliver I think gets a seat, & Harmes.

outa guesses for the 4th seat ?

On 10/03/2016 at 4:31 PM, hardtack said:

Actually, I don't think Ross Wilson had anything to do with the Falcons, but I do understand what you mean.  At the time the Falcons were playing, Wilson had Mondo Rock starting up.  Joe Camilleri had actually been around for a long time (almost as long as Wilson) and I think the first time I ever saw him was when he played with a band called Lip and the Double Decker Brothers (occasionally also going by the names Lip Arthur, or Lip and the Double Soul Brothers).  They usually played at the old TF Much Ballroom and the Much More Ballroom in Brunswick Street, Fitzroy in the early 70's (up until about 1972) and did the occasional stripped down appearance at La Mama Theatre in Carlton.

I was at the Kingston Hotel when the Falcons made the first set of recordings for the Live, Loud and Clear album (I think the final tracks used on the EP were done at Martinis) that had some great tunes on it... Girl Across the Street, Honey Dripper, Young Girl, Aint Got No Money and Riding in the Moonlight.  I consider this to still be one of the best recordings to have been made in Australia.  It captured the Falcons at their absolute gritty rocking best before they started getting a little too smooth.

g'day hardtack, i just got a  "Live, Loud and Clear"  album,  to be delivered.

2 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Yea good call, was think he Ess fella who then became an Ump. They raved about his pace, couldn't play the game. (Not suggesting Hunt is either of the 2).

I was wondering if Harmes was the player redders was thinking of ?

But as I haven't seen any of them play,  these younger kids,  I can't say much.   Only going on what I read atmo. 

I can't drive at the moment to get anywhere,  I've done a head gasket on the motor,  so housebound,  & getting frustrated.  I'll get to it this week,  maybe intime maybe for a Casey game?

9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

DL Has reccuring dreams that RDB & Slug Jordan burn down The Northern Stand...

No If I had my choice,  the smokers stand would still be standing swyl.   and the olympic stand was concrete swyl,  bit too hard to burndown, even for them.

Its not those who built the Smokers stand,  nor the old Olympic stand,  that are the trouble.   Its those who came after those events,  & started to take over the MCC thru the 60's,  eventually seeing the back of Smithy  & further down the road,  to eventually pulling down the old Olympic stand,  to build another,  & in doing so shutting out the regular punter at the footy.

this is where I think cockup came from.   Those born after WW2,  who came thru the ranks & had the taste of power in their drool,  & status in their hearts.  This drives the closeout.

21 hours ago, dee-luded said:

Here are some snippets of past aggression,  showing how it was to play,  to some extent when Barass played the game.   How is it that this tenacity vanished from our Jumper over the past few decades since Barass played?

... an example of his playing demeanor,  from the 20 second mark

 

Other power sides have exhibited modern versions of his tenacity,  even if somewhat dirty.

 

But we've manage to just get about.   Why,  did we lose that tenacity?

 

.... any thoughts,  1970 til 2013 ?

16 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

For crying out loud....
You don't need to have someone who is the bastard child of Allan Killigrew and Yosemite Sam in charge to be a successful club.
Roos built the culture of the Swannies and barely raised his voice. Your mate Neeld did exactly what you advocate here (and have advocated previously) and it was one of the biggest coaching disasters in the game's history.
The world has moved on from the kinds of attitudes displayed by old school, hot gospelling, spray delivering coaches. I suggest you do so as well.

What are you talking about? 

I was calling to get Roosy to rebuild this club,  for 3 years before he got here. 

He is the only one that could unite the club from the MCC  & the outer supporters as well. 

Malthouse would not have gone over well with the MCC patrons,  or the outer punter.

Sheedy would have been great,  but wouldn't have been accepted buy the suits.

So since I'm talking about our onfield players aggression,  & the clubs aggression (not the coach) I'm trying to work out why it disappears all the time,  after we fix it. 

Repeat...  this has nothing to do with a ranting coaching style at all... never did.   you obviously assumed,  because of the first parts of the video,  without reading the written text well.

On 18/03/2016 at 2:53 PM, beelzebub said:

If Eddie's plans are reliant on putting Richmond station underground then that plan will never leave the platform. Not exactly a 5 min exercise. 

52 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Even without the new EddieHad Stadium, which I am sure is the name that he would insist on using, under grounding Richmond station, through which about 9 services run, plus V line and freight, would be a monumentally disruptive for years, and exorbitantly expensive excercise.  Even under grounding a few stations on the Dandenong line is too much hence Denial Andrews' (until recently) secret sky rail plan.  

 

Mono,  I think eddie would prefer the proper name Eddie'sHat Stadium (it has a roof)..  just by the by.

Agreed,  underground rail is way too expensive to build,   & to maintain as well.  Especially down around Chelsea in the sand dunes,  where it would be well below the sea level of Port Phillip Bay.

And especially over long distances.

The Skyrail makes a lot of sense with bike trails underneath.  Also the construction columns could be curtained off with native vegetation to blockout any graffiti.

This is especially so along the Mordialloc to Frankston foreshore area along the Nepean Highway.

But I would like to see them add outer shields onto the construction of the elevated precast track support sections.  yes it adds cost & weight & wind issues,  but screens the view of passing trains,  & could act as a noise suppression tool.. making the appearance more appealing.

Also the Frankston line should be looped to the Cranbourne line via Somerville,  then through Tooradin to Cranbourne.   And reopen the Mornington section in doing so.   This allows shipping container freight to be railed direct to Dandenong from the Hastings - Stony Point port areas.

1 hour ago, ctm said:

1 hour ago, Dee-licious said:

I love the Chinese one. What is the translation? 

Chinese saying Hey there to tony rabbot ?

On 17/03/2016 at 6:13 PM, Bitter but optimistic said:

Can't see Petracca or Henrieta in. Petracca is only a kid who hasn't played footy for over 12 months. Even if he is jumping out of his skin, I can't see him being  thrown in at the top level for round 1. I suppose Lumumba is a possibility if fit because of his experience but I'm still doubtful - Garland in.

I think if there is a hint of doubt about lamumba,  he will miss.   The footy dept will take the opportunity to try an up & comer, temporarily ?

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

If people are still spelling Trengove as 'Trengrove' around here, then the chances of his last name being spelled right on a consistent basis are slim to none.

& in the big picture its of little consequential to how he pe5rforms on gamedayz,  juzt as long as we understand watt some one is trying,,, to communicate.

butt if the responder is being angry & taking it out on de postor, then that is outa line.

now, goin' fishin'

2 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Red you can have all the pace in the world, you still need to get the pill and dispose of it properly. Not saying he is or isn't up for it as I have seen very little of him to this point, just the blank pace description doesn't determine it.

blease ?

17 hours ago, Redleg said:

His arms seem to go all over the place, when he walks or runs. It is a funny look to me. However, they are long, which gives him a good reach and obviously help him with marking.

I am more excited to see him play, than any other player I can recall, in the last several years. One of my workmates has seen him play several times and describes him as a freak.

His comment after the draft to me was, "you should thank God the Saints needed a key forward".

DNA Redleg ?

13 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

Fffed if I am waiting three hours for her to appear! How many times has she pulled that one on the Oz tour? Total disregard for her fans and people really, she can go jump in my opinion. 

arrogance born from insignificance