Demon from Sydney

I'm of the opposite view. The club has been a laughing stock for over 50 years,nearly merging,dishing up years like 2019 & all through it we have chased choir boys with no fight in them or no fight. We can't get any lower than we are & I couldn't care if we recruited murderers,I want results & nothing else

Yeah Viney isnt a B+,his skill level is average & not a great decision maker. KK & Fritsch are C at best. Oscar can go below a C for mine

Its funny i got banned last year on this site for saying Jesses was an idiot,would never be any good,had off field issues & it ran deeper than onfield performance etc.I said straight out there were issues & that he was a pea heart,but got bagged. Where are all the rose coloured glass wearing fools now?

There is no basis at all to say that he will actually achieve a game either.He's a guy they want to play in U18s,yet hes over aged & weighs 90kg,i was that at age 15 & only 180cm.He is as stick & will be another 5+ years of pre seasons before hes even physically strong enough to compete at that level. Lots of guys who have had a better footy upbringing than him who have never achieved a game so im just being realistic

Not saying there is a better option at this time of year or that Jay Lockhart was a bad pick.I just think Preuss is very average & even North didnt want him.And Bradtke more than likely wont ever play an AFL game

Because Bradtke may never even play a game of AFL.He is that far off AFL level that they have even asked if he can play U18s.Preuss is also pretty average & hate to say it but Gawn at some stage will cop an injury or 2

I get the negative comments like....this is a tipping point,this will be the end,old timers would be upset etc etc. But look at the facts.All th ee negative people will still support the game,still attend & do exactly as the AFL want.I mean the old timers even from as little as 10 years ago would be devestated at how soft the game has become & how americanised it has become.It gets weaker by the day,the rules change constantly yet everyone falls for it & keeps shelling out money.There will be more themed rounds,more AFLX type garbage & even though now there are no good hits,hip & shoulders etc in 10 years time you wont even be able to tackle yet the game will go on for some absurd reason

While it is a god awful jersey other sports have themed rounds which do very well.The NRL do a superhero round & jersey sales are a big upside of it especially for kids.In saying that they do look better in a NRL version as they have sleeves which round it out nicer

Yeah i agree FND,if i was an opposition player id be standing there laughing at their schoolgirls cheerleader effort

Should be no consequences at all,end of story.Its not a drug & its not illegal. I mean are AFL players not even allowed to breathe these days without the weak PC bad look brigade sulking.It cant be a bad look if its not illegal,unless you are a saint & have never lived an interesting or decent life

Im not sure Hogan is more important than Neale is to Freo. Everything starts in the middle which is where Neale comes into it.No good if Hogan sits inside F50 while Freo have traded away the most likely player to feed Hogan the required ball.In the end Forwards only kick goals because of the Mids.

Haha right, so instead of 2 weeks to get 5 trades done they would take months.The longer the period doesnt equate to more trades,just more time wasting. Im actually for players moving all year but not in this way,i just think that if you're out of contract there should be no trades just go where you want with no compo.Freedom to move to the club of your choice if not contracted

But in the end Hogan,Beams,Neale,Kelly are all contracted,through their own choice when they last signed,so why should the AFL be able to force clubs into helping them?

Yep,im in the building industry & its 100% what happens.Go for a high price,test the customer (market/club)& if they dont budge well you're no worse off.If they take the bait then you're happy enough to do the work (change clubs)

I dont believe the AFL should be allpwed to get involved.All the players are contracted & obviously chasing money but using family etc as they were happy to pen new deals not long ago.If they are going to get involved it may as well just be a free for all like the NRL where players can go wherever & whenever they want

Yep too many soft,1 eyed suppprters that believe every player on our list are A graders & All Australians,yet cant see that in the end over th e last 10 years Freo have outperformed us.We have been a basket case for 60 years yet on this site its almost as if we are invincible & no one dare question it or say otherwise

Well at least Watson played the game & was actually good.I hate the McLures,Nixons etc that wouldnt even know what a Football looked like.

Its exactly what it is.Other sports finish up & let the players & supporters relax for a while but the AFL feel they need the constant spotlight.They did the same by demanding all state leagues etc finish before their GF.Seriously Trade Week should be 2-3 days maximum as most of the clubs know who they want & who they want out months ago.

Hmmmm not that simple. Hogan staying doesn't guarantee us a Premiership next year & i seriously dont think we will win it even if we keep Hogan,plus get May. The other downside is that we do no better next year & then he walks out which is inevitable,for less compensation than we can get now

I agree,but It's all relative to a Clubs needs.Simply put it sounds so 1 sided but depends if your club has strength in certain areas.For instance we are strong in the Midfield so we would value a mid at lower than a quality CHB or FB.Freo dont want to give up a quality mid for a Forward who wont see the ball without the traded mid.Hogan isnt worth much to a team that struggles to get the ball inside their F50

Not true at all.If they are contracted they have no out,as his current club doesn't have to accomodate a trade or other.They still get played but play them in the ressies where their value goes down & no club will offer the same.All other sports do it,just that the AFL are years behind

Jesus christ what a load of crap.As if hes the only 1 in the world who has had a health scare (and thats all it was because he's over it). Everyone's parents die so i just cant buy that garbage.Jesse is just playing the game & leaving everyone else to speculate & creare drame just like the Dockers are doing.Obviously hes not man enough to front the media or put out a statenent either way. But does it mean just because you have a health scare that renders you completely useless in making a choice or any other decision in your life? If his nuts dont work how would Freo help that?

Doubt there ever was an injury. He convenient dumping from the games would be because of other issues im guessing.The club wanted him out of the way & because of it we performed better.We wouldnt have made it as far this year is the mummies boy was sitting in the forward 50 sulking & throwing his arms up in the air when midfield missed a target by 2 inches

I will & you can believe lies.Everyone in the media knew yet you believe a leader at our club had no idea....seriously?

Well i agree on 1 point but not another.To me big deal he punched someone & it doesnt change my thinking of him.Flip side id love public lynching to be bought back,we are too soft now on the scum of this country.