waynewussell

I listened. I wasn't embarrassed. I understood why he was defending the Club.

Time will tell! Is there any individual or group that doesn't have skeletons in the closet? Changes in leadership are an ongoing reality for football clubs. I object to disrespectful, even poisonous barbs directed at those who have devoted their time and energy (often without monetary gain) to assist with the day to day demands of running an AFL club.

I mean those on here who are in some way aligned with a push to oust the current Board/CEO/Pres

Excellent appraisal... valued contribution!

Here’s one for those who are hoping to gain politically from jumping on the bandwagon of ‘Club in Crisis’. 1964 to 2021… you count the years, false dawns, messiahs and heartaches! We won a magnificent Premiership three years ago and yet, it has only taken three years for the borers to demand we obliterate anyone associated with bringing that Cup to us! I say the follow up was snuffed out on the field of play! I say the players own the so called failure. They know that. Let them fix it. That’s what good footballers do and we are blessed with good footballers, I believe in the young men who wear the red and blue. I keep our most successful coach in 60 years. I keep those around him who he wants and needs. I respect our current Board, CEO and Pres… I don’t accept ‘poor standards’ or ‘bad culture’ arguments, particularly from those with a political agenda or those in the media who live and die for clicks!

Thank you for that gobbledegook! I simply asked that contributors consider who on the playing list they feel has lowered their standards. I deliberately left out Clayton and Christian. Obviously everyone here has difficulty naming players who have dropped their standards. Unfortunately, that is the aspersion that has been cast widely in this debate. I don’t agree, and I think you will find that the players I have named, don’t agree (what an obnoxious opinion it must seem to them!)

I knew posting details of Pert’s exemplary record would smoke out a few borers!

Pert went on SEN to defend a Club that was being attacked from all sides. I don’t think you were ever onside with Pert & Goody, so you didn’t lose a thing!

There are quite a few people here who either need to declare their allegiances or cough up their information. The anti-Pert faction sounds like insider dealings. That’s a political push as far as I can see. I don’t mind ‘moving on’, as it has been put, but I smell political motivation behind what’s being presented as an appraisal of conduct. Please correct me if I am wrong, but don’t simply wave a banner!

Love your work, binman. You provide balance when balance is called for!

Yes, thank you... You just proved to the listeners that some balance is required!

I'm attempting to bring some balance to the character assassination that has seeped into this thread!

So, we are not allowed to discuss players on the list that may or may not have dropped their standards. I call BS!

Are you Caroline's partner?

So, we get a lot of sweeping statements about dropping standards, poor culture yada yada. We seem to have more difficulty naming names. As one who attends training as often as possible, I haven't noticed a drop in standards at training.

Are we talking "standards" or 'form'?

You have missed the point! I'm asking you to name them!

Do tell... you have data on staff culture?

I also suggest that we would discover 'scallywags' on every AFL Club list consistent with the % of 'Scallywags' in this age group, society wide.

I am holding my powder... that's why I haven't named anyone. I'm inviting others to take the shot!

Does that fall into the 'dropped standards' or 'scallywag" category?

These are the players I have in mind, Bowey, Fritsch, Gawn, Langdon, Lever, May, McDonald, Petty, Pickett, Rivers, Salem, Spargo, Sparrow, Viney, JVR, Judd, Windsor, Melksham, Howes, Hore, Chandler, Woewodin, Turner & Moniz-Wakefield. Do you notice poor standards anywhere? Are there any scallywags?

Now add, JVR, Judd, Windsor, Melksham, Howes, Hore, Chandler, Woewodin, Turner & Moniz-Wakefield. Name the blokes on that list who have dropped their standards! All up, that's 24 players (I'm not counting 13 OR 5!)

I'm looking up at the MFC Premiers poster om my study wall and I note that these following players remain on our list from that day. Bowey, Fritsch, Gawn, Langdon, Lever, May, McDonald, Oliver, Petracca, Petty, Pickett, Rivers, Salem, Spargo, Sparrow, & Viney. Ok, name the blokes (other than our four-time B&F winner) listed who have dropped their standards since winning a flag!

When I read what some have said about Gary Pert here, you would think he started life in 2023! In the interests of providing a full picture of his VFL/AFL life, I have listed some key moments. Gary Pert VFL schoolboys tour of Ireland 1981 Made his senior debut in 1982 as a 16 year old 163 games for Fitzroy State of Origin team in 1984 as an 18 year old VC for Fitzroy in 1988 70 games for Collingwood Played for Victoria 6 times AA team 1985 Fitzroy Best & Fairest 1989 Fitzroy Team of the Century CEO of Collingwood 2007 – 2017 CEO of Melbourne 2018 - That makes him CEO of two Premiership teams! I make that 43 years of decorated service so far!