John Demonic

It's also possible that St Kilda are slightly ahead, but on the same trajectory as us: because they actually stepped up a gear when a top 8 team hit their best form in the third and fourth quarter, but held and on found a way to win in a very mature fashion. I'd like to see us do that as well as beating the Saints, before declaring us the same.

Aren't you doing precisely that by mentioning a team in round 1 playing away that hadn't gone anywhere near their top gear ?

No ones saying its I believe the point is that St Kilda are showing they're slightly ahead in pace because they've beaten a top 8 team this year. We can step up and beat one and then we might be "around the same" pace

If Hawthorn genuinely throw everything at them, and GCS fight it out tooth and nail and overrun them then you could mount a case for saying their best is better than ours at present, IF they were genuinely down in the first half of the year because of injuries and are now only putting together their best squad. But I don't think they will. Were you asleep in 2014 when they were on track to make the finals before Ablett went down?

I'm glad St Kilda are a topic of discussion today. Their best has definitely surpassed our best in my opinion. Nick Riewoldt is probably the difference in terms of leadership, not to put nathan jones down but he is not a finals proven captain yet, which is not his fault. They played better than we have for a decade last night. I don't think they got Geelong at a worse time in form, as we did last year. But we're definitely not far behind, just have to polish up with some of our rough around the edges inexperienced errors that will come from becoming more mature.

I literally hear the benny hill music in my head whenever he gallops

The thing we also need to realise is that a lot of the exciting aspects of (Mens) Football come from all of the backstories behind all of the players and their histories, the intricacies of jockeying for positions in the finals and a lot of other things, and then carrying over from year to year, watching the development of various lists and their strategies and patterns. Context is key. Can't just judge womens football on isolated exhibition games

Some of you guys need to edit out some of our classic songs to include "MEN" otherwise you're just plain lying. You don't love footy.

Who cares, let's try out this one before deciding "i won't watch it" considering that "footy is the greatest game". I only watch world cup soccer infrequently outside AFL as the other sport I like, but i don't care for the mens game enough to watch the womens too.

Why have people decided that they won't watch it? Just open your mind and watch a few games in the regular season before you've decided you won't watch it?

I can see Max Gawn overtaking them.

Is it so hard to believe that a Brisbane player jokingly asked if he was staying knowing it's a big media issue? How many players do you think jokingly asked Danger if he was leaving last year at the end of the game with him shrugging them off with a "p.iss off mate" ? Anyway, thread is being clogged up with [censored]. i regret backing up citydee by saying I saw that shot.

I'm just backing up CityDee in that after the game there was a shot of a Brisbane player shaking hands with Hogan and he asked him something with Hogan reacting and saying something. Not implying anything but considering its the big issue, i can imagine the player jokingly asking if he was staying and Hogan saying "[censored] off mate" - Obviously nothing to see here. Of course he wouldn't tell them, i just thought the way Hogan reacted that the brisbane player asked him for a laugh. I think asking for "backofthehead readers" went over your head as a joke, how can you take that seriously?

Bugg was a huge tick on Monday

Actually I saw this shot too and thought the same thing when it seemed like the Brisbane player asked him a question, I'm not a lip reader so I don't know what he said. But it seemed like a shake of the head and a 'naah mate' - So was the question "are you staying?" or "are you leaving" - Do we have any backofthehead readers?

Collingwood will beat us if they're on song and our defenders and mids push up too regularly and don't run both ways. They out-played us in the 2nd and 3rd in round 3 or 4 so we know they are capable, granted we had a lead and could defend it but still. We actually have to bring our best game to win this if they bring theirs.

I can imagine you hushing your game-watching pals after round 23 celebrations mildly saying 'i would have been ecstatic with 14, but meh, 12 is a pass... just."

I remember Hurley representing the Bombers on AFL 360 a few times to discuss everything, feels like the kind of guy who won't leave them now that he's made himself a public persona representing the club (Backed himself into an "im loyal" corner) Probably fears being harassed by the stand by herd crowd in the street if he ever left.

Fyfe for a 40 goal a year player with "potential" - I highly doubt anyone in their rational mind would trade Fyfe for that.

Dodoro: "We want Petracca"

I mentioned it three hours ago that we should go after him, not that i'm the first. Is Robbo a member of all clubs forums? I'd be suitably impressed. "Are we making a play for Michael Hurley?" just seemed like the most glaringly obvious question to ask after yesterdays defensive effort. Does anyone love how the chrome tab has a melbourne icon next to the name Michael Hurley above ^^?

Should we try and recruit Michael Hurley or would that cost too much? What role does Jake Melksham play in all of this for us? Who is a player that can drop back and help out when we need it and trust the forwards to link up with the midfield ? Jack Watts? Should we have kept Daniel Cross ?

I thought we played them once at the end of the year in August and he redeemed himself?

I thought this thread was going to be a digitally enhanced image of Wiedemann as a 23 year old holding a magpies jumper he's just been given from a grey haired Eddie.

They want to see us have another "best win in a decade" ecstatic victory?