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This also tells me that you like making rash conclusions

Not sure I really subscribe to the notion that only certain 'builds' can be 'bulked up' imo anyone can if they put in the hard work. I also doubt that their metabolisms were different, but even if they were, they have access to doctors/trainers/nutritionists etc 24/7 and I'm sure they could have figured out a diet to fit their needs.

Reminds me of a young Jonno Brown

They would have spoken about it, but at the time it wouldn't have had too much meaning given we only knew about pick 10 at the time. I don't think upgrading to pick 7 was planned at that stage, so who GC took at pick 6 wouldn't really have been too much of a worry (as they could go at pick 7/8/9 anyway, before they got to our pick)

Didn't test well at the combine, which concerned me at first but most don't think it's an issue Apparently is a very natural footballer

I think he deserves another chance

my apologies mate

Why don't I throw some other names at you then Pavlich, Franklin, Riewoldt, Roughead There's definitely an element of risk to drafting KPF's early, but to compare Weideman to Cook or Molan is unfair on him. Every chance he could be just as good as the other names I listed

The Swans signed Robinson as a 14 year old Imo there is no chance he moves clubs

I doubt Essendon would accept a third rounder

You can't be serious mate You were 18 once. You can't seriously tell me you haven't matured since then If we don't pick him up, it's not going to be because of how he acted at school 4 years ago

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Delist Pedersen?!?! Have you lost the plot?

Viney was the real winner in the end, I'm sure that would have helped console him He can belt Marley next time

Nic Nat is a ruckman. It is his ruck work which makes him elite. His work in and around the stoppages, fulfilling his primary role which is to ensure his team wins as many stoppages and centre clearances as possible. Apart from his obviously great tap work, his contested ball winning ability and follow up work are enormous here. My opinion is that stats don't really tell the whole story. The impact Nic has and his ability to beat the opposition ruckman almost every week can not be easily shown without watching him play. He makes quality players look average, which I'm sure is a great contributing factor to West Coast's success this year. Additionally, Nic Nat is not the sole ruck at West Coast, which makes his stats so much more impressive. He can only win the ruck contests he is involved in.

Needs a lesson from Fitzy

People often talk about how stats can be meaningless and I think this is one of these instances. There is much more Nic Nat does that isn't captured by your run of the mill 'disposals, hit-outs, marks' etc statistics. Perhaps our opinions differ, which is fine, discussion is what a footy forum is for. But after watching most West Coast games this year I can comfortably say that Nic Nat is the 2nd best ruck in the comp behind only Goldstein. He is elite at what he does. I might be misunderstanding, but if you think players peak at 25 then you are mistaken.

Nic Nat is already elite And he's still only 25.

Never good to make life-changing decisions based on emotion. Whether Danger stays or goes I doubt it will be based on the events of the last month

Does that 'mail' come from Demonland?

Would need two injuries in the mids to even get regular games at Sydney imo Bird is ahead of him and he isn't getting played either Could want to leave for more game time, but he would probably rather stay with his brother

I really don't see the issue If WB had compared Steve to a man in a different context, would you have a problem? Stop treating women as victims

"we simply cannot go into next season with garland, howe, lumumba, grimes, cross all as 'third / fourth tall' defenders. they don't do enough." - DemonAndrew This is what I was responding to. Addressing your post, each week Garland locks down the opposition's 3rd best forward. And each week, he succeeds at it, which is why he keeps getting the job over the other names listed by DA. Someone needs to play this role, and I see no reason to get rid of the guy who's best at it. There is a reason Grimes keeps getting dropped and not Garland.

We can't go into next season with all 4 of Garland, Howe, Cross and Grimes, right? Howe - Likely gone at end of season Cross - May retire this year, will definitely be rested if he plays on next year Grimes - Garland is far better than, otherwise Grimes would be in the side But by all means, get rid of Garland.

He can still be traded...