DubDee

Melksham is rubbish so no real loss for them. I actually wanted to pick him up in the draft back in the day. after 100 games he hasnt come on. still getting 16 touches, not clever, skills not great

Fark we cant lose this can we? Hird has lost the players I think. they should be rebuidling but the Delusional one will not admit that as it would be another reason to sack him

why do I cr-ap my pants every time we are favourites (esp against the dons)?

10 years of constant dissapointment you say?

yep, that would be it

pity it wont be dry, i would think we could really smash them. I (now) have faith in our leaders. Jones, Vince, Viney etc will not let this one slip.

M Jones & Terlich will not be paid out both are sitting on between $250-300 k per year, that's a lot of money to tip down the drain...

but you dont want to punish the club for bad mistakes made earlier. either way its wasted money as they are not good players and most likely neither will play a game in 2016 unless 3/4 of our list is injured

id rip the bandaid off now and free the list up. this recruiting team is on fire with late picks and rookies so the more spots the better

What is a Dawk?

Sad to see josh "brownlow" Kelly dropped from the depleted Gws team

I think I read somewhere that JKH is likely to play VFL.

I would bring in Hogan and Garland

for Spencer and Riley.

Gawn has shown he can run a game out better than he could last year. Dawes can give him a break and Howey can go 3rd man up

Nic Nat will probably win the taps anyway so Id prefer not to have 2 inefffectual rucks out there

Oh yes that works soooooo welllll.....treating people like adults! What does that mean? Let's all just take up using ice, crack a few heads run riot and generally do WTF we want to the detriment of society.....

What a I think is hilarious is dope heads take pictures of themselves using drugs then complain it gets in the papers.....cameras were banned when we had fun out and about. Idiots now don't get consequences

nah i just reckon if you empower power to make their own decisions that can have a good effect. if you have too many rules and treat the group like cattle - they will behave like sheep. eg, the essendon players not even questioning all those injections! (off topic i know)

people will still mess up and make mistakes. come down hard on them rather than covering it up. then people should learn from that

AFL is far too strict which leads to people breaking out (IMO).

its got to the point where you can't even have one drink (but you'd be OK to drive a car). something has to give for these young men and right now the easiest way to break loose/blow off steam is to take drugs as they are covered by the "integrity" unit. so drinking is down and illicit drug us it up! nice one!

when they start treating players like adults they might start behaving like them

Expecting a 40-50 pt loss here. WCE are playing great team footy

OTC had some good footage last night showing their zonal defence. For us to win, Roosey has to win the tactical battle first.

then the rest is up to Hogan. no pressure

we've won 4, then 2 then 4 games for ther past 3 seasons and you expect to have more members this year? on the back of draft picks? we've had them every year!

the casual fans/supporters will sign up when its we are better and a chance not to lose 80% of the time

this time next year when we are sitting at 8-4 (Hogan having kicked 40 and Brayshaw the fav for the brownlow), we will have cracked 40K for sure. until then.... eh...we can just dream

Roos reckons Garland and has been probably our most consistent player this year and people are still happy to see him gone? wtf

I think some of you are trying to brace yourself for the dissapointment of him leaving but I personally think he will stay and really want him to stay.

Garland offers a versatility that others cannot provide (eg Frost) so when we play a team with a small fwd line, we can cope. he can tag when needed, eg help out on ablett. Offers good rebound and uses the ball well. I believe he will really flourish further as we improve.

He is a team man through and through. even played at CHF for half a year when asked and did ok

And not every player needs to be a leader, some are not born to do it. you need some leaders and some solid contributors and he is certainly the latter.

(needed to get that off my chest)

Foxtel just showed the hird post match. Hird saying maybe people are believing the media's propaganda about the drug issue, crossed back to the studio and dwayne came up with this ripper:

"Hird fighting the medias propaganda with his own. Maybe there were no injections after all?"

Haha

He is still delusional about it! Called Sam idiotic! The nerve of the man!

From the article: suitors include Carlton, St Kilda, Geelong, the Western Bulldogs and Brisbane Lions

I guess he not leaving for success then?!?! surely leaving for a team that will be finals next year would be the reason he would leave. dogs are a chance to have a good patch but not set in stone

I hope Col stays, he has been a solid performer. gives our backline flexibility and good rebound

the other line in the article:

However, the Demons' encouraging 4-8 start to 2015

reminds me just how pathetic we have been. Yay we won 4 out of 12!

I'm just glad we are not talking draft picks! the last few years it has been the only topic of conversation this time of year.

We have a big advantage on a lot of teams. We have an easy draw overall. How would you like Hawthorns draw? play the top teams twice?

they are giving a easy draw year after year in the hope we will improve but we never come to the party.

If the AFL ever move to a 17 round comp, the different between Hawks/Swans and us will be even more stark.

Only positive? We don't have to watch that mug Mitch Clark kick a bag against us

So with Grimes, Pedo and maybe Hogan out and a sunday game we need SEVEN names to come in tonight for the extended bench

so who can we copme up with????

Dawes,

Spencer

Harmes,

Jamar,

Bail,

Mckenzie,

Fitzy

If ANB/Mitchie/Riley get dropped then we'll need to think of more names!!

I feel nauseous

Howe has been a massive disappointment this year. In his prime we needed him to step and he's gone missing. One or two decent games and some absolute shockers. No doubt he would have been dropped had we any depth. I had thought he would play through the middle and on the wing by now.

A first round pick for Howe? My god you'd jump at that! worth a second rounder at best but I guess he is probably our only over-rated player in the media/footy circles

The thing that has changed is that I dont really care if he leaves or not. Based on his no-effort games this year

Bartel, Clark, Duncan, Horlin-Smith, Kelly, Macintosh, Menzel, Smedts, simpson, vardy, stanley

they are just as bad as us if not worse.

Surprise us for once Dees, win this

Fantasy points wise the top 4 in order are:

Jones

Cross

Vince

TMac

then a big gap, and next 3 are Hogan, Brayshaw, Vanders

take the points with a grain of salt if you wish. if you dont know - they are combination of stats, disposals, tackles, pressure acts, inside fifties etc

Cross's consistency of performance is often overlooked.

Yep, I reckon Vince is our best player at the moment. Jones has dropped off his high standards this year (not by much)

What were the crows thinking getting rid of him??

It's frightening isn't it, yet haven't heard much made of it in the media.

FB: Dunn, T. McDonald, Jetta

HB: Garland, Frost, Lumumba

C: Vandenberg, Vince, Tyson

HF: Trengove, Dawes, Kent

FF: Howe, Hogan, Garlett

FOLL: Jamar, Cross, N. Jones

INT: Brayshaw, Petracca, Salem, Viney

EMERG: Kennedy-Harris, Toumpas, Watts

Entire half forward line out. No wonder we couldn't get it out of our back line in the final term.

At least the injuries have allowed the likes of Toumpas & Watts to find form.

It is no doubt having an effect but its not like we have any of our top players out like other teams do. What if TMac, Jones, Vince, Hogan were out?

Jamar was dropped probably wont play again. JT dropped, JKH was dropped, Dawes quite possibly would have been dropped if not injured.

Salem, Kent, Garland (and previously Viney) hurt but we should be able to cover

fark im sick of us being this bad!! almost a decade of this shite!

The saints were tipped for last place and 1-2 wins and are better than us already. I cant wait until pre-season.

If the team is so [censored] stupid to not now to get back for the last 30 seconds well I give up

Hey Dubbo watch the first quarter

I've watched the whole first half. Some good and some bad from toump but if you can see improvement you're blind

Well done Toumpas. Stick it up some of the so called 'supporters' on this forum

Good luck Alex!

hope he plays well and is in the circle when we sing the song at the end of the game.