Red and Blue realist

I'm sure this is a mistake not a dig at him? What's the issue with White I wonder? He could have put himself in a position to get a few early games and isn't listed in the injury report, maybe I've missed something.

You missed the point of using Fyfe and danger, I could have used any player. No one is perfect, but if they make a positive contrition that over rides the odd mistake that is made. If not they get dropped it's simple. AW listed above all the good users we've got in the team, but I think the Mac's have improved and never had an issue with Tyson, his mistakes come when he tries too much, with experience and as we get better the odd mistake he makes will be minimised

I didn't say they need not improve, in fact one of the things I loved about the game on the weekend was how much Jonesy seemed to have improved his kicking. What I was saying was there seems to be an unnatural obsession about mistakes as compared to the good things the players do. Some players in particular seem to be the target if they miss even one kick in a game. I love players who take the game on and if they make the odd mistake so be it.

Fyfe and Dangerfield are almost universally acknowledge as the 2 or 2 of the best players in the comp and they both are pretty ordinary kicks - but they still do a ton of damage. I don't care about the odd mistake as long as the overall contribution is positive. If one of the Macs take a brilliant goal saving intercept mark, try and run the ball from defense then miss a target, I'm remembering the intercept mark and non-goal rather than the mistake. I know most will only focus on the mistake but I'm sure the coaches are more worried about the contribution.

Agree with everything else you're saying, but three games ago was also 7 months ago and at the end of the season for what was a very young list. I'm loving the straight forward nature of Goody when he says the past is irrelevant, clearly we've had another summer and a new coach. Let's leave both last years games against the Blues and Cats in the past.

Don't know if there were that many tall developong backs who fit that description? Plus Hibberd plays a lot taller than he is, so i think they may have thought there was enough coverage for that 3rd/4th tall back - Hibberd, Frost, Smith, Pedo, Garland, Wagner, White, Keilty- just a pity our injuries at the moment seem to be concentrated in that area. I've also heard that this years draft is much better for talls, in particular backs so we might have made a strategic decision to get through this year and load up next year?

Same as why they force the Friday/Saturday teams to name emergency's, give's time to media outlets to know within reason who will be playing - anything your ever confused about think about the media and that's normally the answer. It is however much easier to bring players in and out of those 25 man squads for Sunday games.

I though it was just going to be the likes of Stretch, Clarry and Tyson who got a big lift from Lewis, but I think Jones got nearly as much. They seemed to work nearly in tandem to make sure there was that outlet for the defenders and directing them where to go. I wonder if this was noticeable to anyone close to the ground on Saturday - if they could hear Jones and Lewis instructing (nearly coaching) the ball movement on the ground?

Was there any reports of Pedders in the Casey game? He doesn't really have the speed of either Vince or Smith (ball movement in particular) so if he's an in, they'll need the Macs to take more control of running the ball out of the backline and we know the commotion that causes around here!

I agree that no player - and it feels good this year not to automatically gift games to players - should be safe from being sent back to Casey to work on a few things in their game. While only pre-season Watts was the perfect example. With OMac, I think he's been rubbished on here a fair bit, while his form is not terrible. While some have said there's those just looking to stick up for him, I watched the replay looking for a massive amount of errors or goals that were his fault, and they just weren't there to the extent that he had to be dropped immediately. I think he'll continue to frustrate because I do think he tries to do things he's not quiet ready too (my meaning of extending himself), naturally that happens with nearly all the younger guys, Petracca in particular.

Thought it was Chunks best game for a long time, besides 1 howler, his disposal looked to improve about 50% over the summer. Might be Lewis's influence or just a bit of maturity in his game but he looked fantastic, maybe he's annoyed he's missed out on the BnF the last couple of years after having a mortgage on it!

My point wasn't about clangers as such, anyone can get ahead of themselves and fumble a mark or two grab a ground ball. I was talking about out and out howlers, both Jones and Lewis both kicked the ball straight to Saints players. While OMac might extend himself a little more than he's capable of at the moment (although i actually love that he's not afraid to take the game on - even if he does make the odd mistake), he gets crucified more than anyone else (the new Watts). The calls for him to go back to Casey, really won't do much for him long term either, AFL listed big forwards and backs and normally significantly stronger (and better) than anything at a lower level so you want them learning to compete against the best, and take the odd 'clanger, mistake, howler' because the end result will be much better. I think it's much like the debate about starting Pedo over Weid, I think if were serious about not only making but winning finals we need the Weid up and going while Pedo is handy back up at best.

There ads are all about things being mixed up, so it's likely to be deliberate

Not sure if I watched the same game as the rest of you. Oscar had less howlers than Lewis, Vince and Jones. He's role is the spoil and he did that really well I thought. He's not the most polished player yet but there's no doubt he'll be best 22 every week if he plays like that

100% correct, no point getting upset that we've got less members than another club who's giving them out. I've never seen a list (nor do I know if it exists) to show what revenue each clubs membership brings in (as a net figure) - making sure to deduct any allowance's for membership give away's etc. I think we'd be reasonably competitve in the area.

Not at all disappointed with the result, if you look, our main mids played significantly less game time than the eagles and what I expect they would in a normal game. So we'll get some natural improvement there. Plus Tyson will be better for the run. We really missed the forward pressure of Kent and Garlett, not to say ANB did a bad job, I think we need 2 players in that role and not sure if anyone else helped lock the ball in that well forward 50, I don't expect Hoges/Weid/Watts to be doing it to the same level as Jeffy/Kent/ANB/JHK/AVB can do. Loved Oliver, I've always thought Viney was like a freight train coming through packs, well Oliver's like bullet train hitting them with speed and force. If they every run into each other full force it'll leave a massive dent in whatever oval there on.

Don't know if the results of the scans have been reported anywhere have they? At least not from the club as far as I know. Edit - happy to have this information be incorrect and only an ankle sprain or something minor.

Something else, but was unconfirmed at the time I got info

I've heard foot, potentially not good

This was my initial reaction too, but Membery is only 188cm, so I don't think needs a massive tall on him and if Hibberd is fit I think would be our perfect match up on him. Not saying Smith would be out, but in form and fit I think Hibberd gets a game. I expect he might be like Milkshake and be much better in his second JLT game.

I suspect that given this is a Casey warm up game, and KC implied there might not be many/if any Dee's in the team that were not promoting it because it's not worth promoting. It's nice the game is on and we're taking the Redtails through the club, having them meet coaches etc. but there's a good chance if we promoted it like some are saying, then had the guys play who haven't had a run in JLT yet that it could be a very messy 100+ point win. Which goes against what the game is meant to be, to grow the connection between MFC and NT football in general. You don't win many friend handing out floggings.

Would have been better if we were also playing the giants in the JLT and formed a proper double header. Not sure why the AFL didn't look at this for all clubs with women's teams, surely it would boost the attendance and TV ratings.

Provided we get the win, we probably need Bris to be Adel, then we've got Adel next up and if we win that we'd move into the top 2. Otherwise we'll be hoping that Bris drop one other game, but it take's some of our destiny out of our hands.

I love that on the 40th article on Watts this week on the AFL site, there's a picture of Goody holding a bag while Jack jumps to take a mark. Shows that he hasn't just been left out with a cold shoulder. I'm sure there's a reason, which I suspect is very minor, as to why he's not playing and I like that the coach (not an assistant) is right there with him. I'm sure some coaches would pass the information down the line and watch from a far.

Great news, looking at the contracts page, Weids was one of the 2 signings I think we really needed, so to do it so early is a great sign. Plus it'll annoy those pie fans who think because of his name they have a god given right to him.