Everything posted by FireInTheBennelly
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
Sorry mate, I misinterpreted. You had me confused as you'd 'liked' an earlier explanation of mine, so I thought you agreed with me. Thanks for the assist
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
No Nascent I didn't miss your post. That's a different issue altogether. Essentially it means if we were to upgrade a rookie, that would be our last pick in the draft. So at this point, in the 6th round we must make a pick, either a new draftee, or a rookie upgrade. If people think we really only have 2 draft picks in this years draft, they better get on the phone to Mahoney immediately and let him know, as he's come out and said we're taking them to the draft. If we do that, according to a few on here, we'll be in breach of the 3 draft pick rule. What's the penalty? If Mahoney is purely posturing for a better trade, he should probably realise that all other clubs would know we'd be in breach of the rules and they may only offer us a 4th and 5th round pick for our first rounder, which we'd be forced to take. Can you see how ridiculous this is getting?
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
Oh man. Please tell me what pick number that would be? Oh and by the way we do have to make a 3rd pick according to the Rules At this stage it would be our 6th round pick. I can't tell you exactly what number that would be as most teams will have passed by then, so it could potentially be around the 70s. If you are desperate for me to give you an exact number, as it stands it would be pick 97, AKA the 2nd pick of round 6. And yes, I'm well aware we need to make 3 picks, as per the rules. I thought that would just mean we had 2 more spots on our list to fill. Yes we'd have 2 more list spots to fill whichever way we wish to fill them. Draft rounds 7 and 8 if we were that way inclined, or DFAs, PSD etc. Why are you insisting the draft ends after 5 rounds? That is simply not the case, and has never been the case. Go through the rules again if you like and highlight where it says the draft ends after 5 rounds. When you don't see that anywhere in the rules, ask yourself this question. Have we traded our 6th round selection? No. We can use a pick in the 6th round! I've been patient with you insisting your communication skills are the problem. They aren't. Your understanding of the situation is incorrect. FWIW though, I hope you are correct that we are still looking to trade in a player for our current suite of picks.
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Josh Mahoney in the Media
For all those panicking that we need to make a minimum of 3 draft selections, but we only have 2 left because we've traded out our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks, can you tell me which round was Jarrod Garlett drafted by Carlton in 2017?
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
If we have to make a 3rd pick, yes, we have a 3rd pick. If we wanted to delist JKH and Stretch right now, we could have another 2 picks on top of that. We can keep on picking draftees in as many rounds as we like (list spots permitting) until we either pass, or upgrade whatever rookies we wish. Put it this way. Have we traded out our 6th round pick? Have we traded any other picks in rounds after that? The draft does not end after 5 rounds.
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
Going on @Lucifer's Herocontracts thread, the following are our rookies. (Thanks Lucifer) Rookie List: Chandler: re-contract Dunkley: re-contract Lockhart: re-contract Bradke: re-contract If we're running with the 2 first round picks are we a possibility to upgrade Lockhart as our 3rd pick? I can't see the others as being upgrade candidates at this point.
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
I tend to agree with you, however he seriously needs to work on his kicking. If he does that he could be a weapon.
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
Pick 8 is our 2nd pick. We can use a 3rd pick in any later round where we have a pick. The draft doesn't stop until all clubs are done. We can do a rookie upgrade in round 6, 7, 8, or whenever our 3rd pick falls. If we had more list spots available we could even choose players in round 9, 10, or 11. I assume you're looking at the AFL's indicative draft order as a guide? That only goes up to round 5, but that's not the end of the draft if clubs are still making picks. E.G. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_AFL_draft In which draft round to Jarrod Garlett get picked by Carlton? We can go to the draft with these 2 first rounders. I think it's likely we will be looking for a further trade, however we don't technically have to.
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
I don't believe that's correct regarding pick 8 having to be a rookie upgrade. The draft is basically endless, until all clubs are done. At this point we have no 2nd, 3rd, 4th round picks (I think that's right, but doesn't really matter), so if we need to make a 3rd pick it happens in a 5th round, be it rookie upgrade or new draftee. We may or may not be the only club left standing at that point, but until all clubs are finished drafting players, it just goes on and on.
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
Hadn't thought of that. Possibly, need to look for some AFL draft rules. If it were a rookie, which one? It may be a last resort.
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
Must make a minimum of 3 draft selections. As it stands our 3rd pick will be up near or even over 100. That would be fine if we were upgrading a rookie with that 3rd pick, but doubt we'd be looking to draft a youngster that late? Further trades to happen bringing our 3rd pick back into an earlier round?
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
I immediately assumed the same as Ralph. Perhaps he's joined the dots with the Gun Forward thread. Hi Jon ?
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
What does 'wanted to move pick 3' mean exactly?
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
I thought the minimum was 3? Unless we upgrade a rookie, but can't see that happening.
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
@Yokozuna Time to pick up the phone I reckon. What's cookin?
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Gun target - Key Forward recruit?
To be fair DJ, a lot of our football this year wasn't TV worthy.
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What's going on at Port
Clearing the decks for a big crack at the Gold Coast boys?
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Gun target - Key Forward recruit?
Maybe he meant Murray. He's got the goey.
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Gun target - Key Forward recruit?
I know it sounds odd. Something just wasn't right with him this year.
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Ben King
How would that work with Round 1 pick rules though?
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Gun target - Key Forward recruit?
Or his mate Aunty Jack? I know a few on here are hoping it's Gunston, but I think he's cooked. After taking unders to win premierships in true Hawks style, I reckon he's been told to top up his super somewhere else. Not interested.
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Gun target - Key Forward recruit?
Wouldn't get a kick in a street fight
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Are we done now?
Not this time ET
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Are we done now?
Apologies if I got that wrong, I was trying to listen to a race at the same time.... I thought that's what I heard storming down the outside.
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Are we done now?
Coaching structure is done. I thought we were a bit light on?