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The Demonland Podcast will be convening an honesty circle LIVE tonight @ 8:30pm. Join @Grapeviney, @Supermercado & myself and witness grown men openly weep for what could have been. Listen & Chat LIVE: http://demonland.com Call: 03 9016 3666 Skype: Demonland31
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Also we'll play Buddy back into form.
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The replacements in these instances always have either their break out game or their one hit wonder.
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? | https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-08/double-swans-blow-veteran-forward-sidelined-for-at-least-a-month
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The Casey Demons started the 2019 in unimpressive fashion with a 62 point loss to the Box Hill Hawks at Box Hill City Oval. It was a total contrast to their 2018 opening when they monstered the Coburg Lions but the circumstances were entirely different. Twelve months ago, the Demons were able to go into the match with a large contingent of AFL listed players while yesterday, they went into the game with 12 Melbourne players, mostly inexperienced. They were also hampered by the AFL schedule which sees the Demons facing the Swans up in Sydney on Thursday night, a factor which most surely saw the withdrawal of ruckman Braydon Preuss from the Box Hill game and others being lightly used throughout the afternoon. Whilst its no excuse for the poor performances of some of the others, to this observer, it took away from the team’s competitive ability against a side they beat by 10 points in a practice game as recently as 24 March. Box Hill was out of the blocks quickly and dominated the opening quarter. Tim Smith has the kicking yips early and impressive small man Kade Chandler kicked the only goal as the home side took a 23 point lead into quarter time. After the break and reinforced by the introduction of Billy Stretch and Marty Hore, Casey fared a lot better. Smith finally hit the target and the busy Chandler scored his second at the 17 minute mark to provide a ray of light with the deficit under two goals but, after that, the afternoon turned into a nightmare. Box Hill dominated the error riddled visitors for the next quarter and a half, going into the main break with a five goal lead and stretching that past nine goals at the final break. Casey rallied a little in the final term but their inaccuracy in front of goal ensured that they would make little impact on the final margin. Best players for the Demons was Corey Maynard who put his hand up for senior selection with 27 disposals, likewise Billy Stretch with 20 touches in his three quarters. New skipper Mitch White tried hard against the odds on a difficult day for his team. For the Casey Demons, it was a game best forgotten as they head back home for an encounter against North Melbourne next Saturday. 2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL Casey Demons 1.4.10 3.6.24 3.10.28 4.18.42 Box Hill Hawks 5.3.33 8.6.54 14.11.95 15.14.104 Goals Casey Demons Chandler 2 Gent T Smith Box Hill Hawks Ross 5 Lewis 4 Kilpatrick Schoenmakers 2 Hanrahan Moore Best Casey Demons Maynard Stretch Chandler White Munro Bedford Box Hill Hawks Kilpatrick Lewis Ross O'Brien Jiath Miles Statistics Oskar Baker 1 behind 5 kicks 4 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 30 dream team points Toby Bedford 1 behind 5 kicks 9 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 50 dream team points Kade Chandler 2 goals 1 behinds 10 kicks 7 handballs 17 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 77 dream team points Dylan Collis 1 behinds 5 kicks 3 handballs 8 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 30 dream team points Will Collis 5 kicks 3 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 56 dream team points Jeffrey Garlett 1 behind 4 kicks 3 handballs 7 disposals 2 mark 3 tackles 28 dream team points Mitch Gent 1 goal 2 behinds 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 4. marks 1 tackle 63 dream team points Marty Hore 13 kicks 1 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 53 dream team points Jack Hutchins 1 kicks 2 handballs 3 disposals 1 tackles 8 dream team points James Jordon 8 kicks 2 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 39 dream team points Declan Keilty 3 kicks 6 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 9 hit outs 48 dream team points Mitchell Lewis 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 36 dream team points Corey Maynard 10 kicks 17 handballs 27 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 82 dream team points James Munro 2 behinds 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 1 marks 3 tackles 48 dream team points Harrison Petty 4 kicks 2 handballs 6 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 33 dream team points Aidan Quigley 8 kicks 3 handballs 11 disposals 5 marks 43 dream team points Tim Smith 1 goal 3 behinds 11 kick s 1 handball 12 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 53 dream team points Tom Sparrow 5 kicks 6 handballs 11 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 49dream team points Billy Stretch 13 kicks 7 handballs 20 disposals 2 marks 5 tackles 77 dream team points Cory Stockdale 8 kicks 2 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 3 tackles 40 dream team points Luke Tynan 1 behind 7 kicks 9 handballs 16 disposals 4 marks 49 dream team points Liam Wale-Buxton 3 kicks 3 handballs 6 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 17 hit outs 40 dream team points Mitchell White 1 behind 12 kicks 12 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 60 dream team points
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Box Hill Hawks v Casey Demons - VFL Round 1
Demonland replied to KC from Casey's topic in Melbourne Demons
A DAY TO FORGET by KC from Casey The Casey Demons started the 2019 in unimpressive fashion with a 62 point loss to the Box Hill Hawks at Box Hill City Oval. It was a total contrast to their 2018 opening when they monstered the Coburg Lions but the circumstances were entirely different. Twelve months ago, the Demons were able to go into the match with a large contingent of AFL listed players while yesterday, they went into the game with 12 Melbourne players, mostly inexperienced. They were also hampered by the AFL schedule which sees the Demons facing the Swans up in Sydney on Thursday night, a factor which most surely saw the withdrawal of ruckman Braydon Preuss from the Box Hill game and others being lightly used throughout the afternoon. Whilst its no excuse for the poor performances of some of the others, to this observer, it took away from the team’s competitive ability against a side they beat by 10 points in a practice game as recently as 24 March. Box Hill was out of the blocks quickly and dominated the opening quarter. Tim Smith has the kicking yips early and impressive small man Kade Chandler kicked the only goal as the home side took a 23 point lead into quarter time. After the break and reinforced by the introduction of Billy Stretch and Marty Hore, Casey fared a lot better. Smith finally hit the target and the busy Chandler scored his second at the 17 minute mark to provide a ray of light with the deficit under two goals but, after that, the afternoon turned into a nightmare. Box Hill dominated the error riddled visitors for the next quarter and a half, going into the main break with a five goal lead and stretching that past nine goals at the final break. Casey rallied a little in the final term but their inaccuracy in front of goal ensured that they would make little impact on the final margin. Best players for the Demons was Corey Maynard who put his hand up for senior selection with 27 disposals, likewise Billy Stretch with 20 touches in his three quarters. New skipper Mitch White tried hard against the odds on a difficult day for his team. For the Casey Demons, it was a game best forgotten as they head back home for an encounter against North Melbourne next Saturday. 2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL Casey Demons 1.4.10 3.6.24 3.10.28 4.18.42 Box Hill Hawks 5.3.33 8.6.54 14.11.95 15.14.104 Goals Casey Demons Chandler 2 Gent T Smith Box Hill Hawks Ross 5 Lewis 4 Kilpatrick Schoenmakers 2 Hanrahan Moore Best Casey Demons Maynard Stretch Chandler White Munro Bedford Box Hill Hawks Kilpatrick Lewis Ross O'Brien Jiath Miles Statistics Oskar Baker 1 behind 5 kicks 4 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 30 dream team points Toby Bedford 1 behind 5 kicks 9 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 50 dream team points Kade Chandler 2 goals 1 behinds 10 kicks 7 handballs 17 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 77 dream team points Dylan Collis 1 behinds 5 kicks 3 handballs 8 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 30 dream team points Will Collis 5 kicks 3 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 56 dream team points Jeffrey Garlett 1 behind 4 kicks 3 handballs 7 disposals 2 mark 3 tackles 28 dream team points Mitch Gent 1 goal 2 behinds 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 4. marks 1 tackle 63 dream team points Marty Hore 13 kicks 1 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 53 dream team points Jack Hutchins 1 kicks 2 handballs 3 disposals 1 tackles 8 dream team points James Jordon 8 kicks 2 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 39 dream team points Declan Keilty 3 kicks 6 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 9 hit outs 48 dream team points Mitchell Lewis 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 36 dream team points Corey Maynard 10 kicks 17 handballs 27 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 82 dream team points James Munro 2 behinds 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 1 marks 3 tackles 48 dream team points Harrison Petty 4 kicks 2 handballs 6 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 33 dream team points Aidan Quigley 8 kicks 3 handballs 11 disposals 5 marks 43 dream team points Tim Smith 1 goal 3 behinds 11 kick s 1 handball 12 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 53 dream team points Tom Sparrow 5 kicks 6 handballs 11 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 49dream team points Billy Stretch 13 kicks 7 handballs 20 disposals 2 marks 5 tackles 77 dream team points Cory Stockdale 8 kicks 2 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 3 tackles 40 dream team points Luke Tynan 1 behind 7 kicks 9 handballs 16 disposals 4 marks 49 dream team points Liam Wale-Buxton 3 kicks 3 handballs 6 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 17 hit outs 40 dream team points Mitchell White 1 behind 12 kicks 12 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 60 dream team points -
Late last season, the Swans came to the MCG and embarrassed the Demons. Thankfully, they recovered to beat the Eagles and Giants in the last two rounds to make the finals. MELBOURNE B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Jordan Lewis HB: Christian Salem, Sam Frost, James Harmes C Dom Tyson, Clayton Oliver, Angus Brayshaw HF: Charlie Spargo, Jesse Hogan, Aaron vandenBerg F: Jeff Garlett, Tom McDonald, Bayley Fritsch Foll: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Christian Petracca I/C: Jayden Hunt, Jay Kennedy Harris, Alex Neal-Bullen, Cameron Pedersen Emg: Mitch Hannan, Dean Kent, Bernie Vince, Sam Weideman, In: Jayden Hunt, Cameron Pedersen Out: Joel Smith (collarbone), Bernie Vince (omitted) SYDNEY SWANS B: Nick Smith, Aliir Aliir, Jake Lloyd HB: Dane Rampe, Alex Johnson, Jarrad McVeigh C Isaac Heeney, Josh P. Kennedy, Harry Cunningham HF: George Hewett, Lance Franklin, Oliver Florent F: Will Hayward, Tom McCartin, Ben Ronke Foll: Callum Sinclair, Kieren Jack, Luke Parker I/C:Jordan Dawson, Dan Hannebery, Nic Newman, Tom Papley Emg: Darcy Cameron, Daniel Robinson, Gary Rohan, Dean Towers In: Dan Hannebery Out: Daniel Robinson (omitted)
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It’s early but the 2019 race looms as a race in two between Gus and Clarrie - 40. Angus Brayshaw 33. Clayton Oliver 21. James Harmes 20. Max Gawn Christian Salem 16. Jake Melksham 12. Jack Viney 9. Jayden Hunt 4. Sam Frost Michael Hibberd 3. Corey Wagner 2. Bayley Fritsch Jay Lockhart Alex Neal-Bullen 1. Neville Jetta
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2019 IS NOT 2018 by George on the Outer Seems like an obvious statement doesn’t it? Yet the MFC coaching staff/team seem to have forgotten to change their calendars on January 1st. A 3 goal loss against the equal bottom side in the competition and now with a 0-3 record for the current season, it should be obvious that things have changed from 2018. Not so on the field, as Melbourne continue to play the style which got them to a Preliminary final. Once again the Demons saw 20 goals scored against them for the game. It is easy for the coach to come out and say “ we were scored against easily” but the reason that happened is probably because we are still playing the game as it was played in 2018. The rules have changed, and other teams have worked us out. The Melbourne “brand” of contested football is fine if you win the ball, when you don’t it means you leak goals because we have insufficient players behind and outside the contest. It is why we see other teams this season “waltz” the ball into goal. It is why opposition forwards are seen to be un-manned. The Rules have changed. 6-6-6 was introduced to open the game up in the middle. The jury on that aspect is still out, but opposition coaches are now sitting a resting ruck in their forward line in lieu and we have seen it in all 3 games in 2019. In this game Zac Clarke was brought into the side to do exactly that alongside Bellchambers. They had little effect as players, but it forced us to put one of our tall defenders on them and that opened the gate for Stringer, Tipungwuti and McKernan who each kicked 4 goals! And our resting ruck?…..he will be playing at Casey. It may not be obvious to some but Jesse Hogan is now playing for Fremantle. We are playing with 1 less tall forward in 2019. So why is Sam Weidemann being used as a substitute ruck? In this game against the Bombers, we saw the ridiculous situation when Tom McDonald injured an ankle in the 2nd quarter, had to leave the ground, and then was used on a wing. Max Gawn was resting on the bench and Weideman was rucking. Even after Gawn came back on, Weideman had to be rested on the bench. Having Gawn return to the ruck position saw Melbourne’s resurgence in that quarter. Does that not send a message we need a full-time ruckman on the ground? It is easy when the opposition kicks 20 goals to focus on the backline. There is no doubt that Oscar McDonald is playing well below par. Frost is filling a hole, which he will probably continue to do so, even with the return of May and Lever. But they are being asked to take on opponents much bigger and stronger than themselves, especially with resting rucks dropping back. Then to top it off we are still following the mantra of going at the man with the ball, even if it means 3 Melbourne players doing exactly the same thing, resulting in loose opposition players. And the backline needs help, especially with our current defender drought. The wingers need to get back to cover, but instead are heading toward the middle like they did in 2018. In 2019 it should be the HFF’s heading to the wing and the middle, but hey it worked last year, didn’t it? The disfunction of the forward line is more critical, because this is from where the opposition in 2019 have launched their attacks. Contested football isn’t just in the middle, and once again the lack of pressure from the forwards to keep the ball inside the scoring area was appalling. We saw Melbourne players all flying for the ball leaving no-one crumbing. The times when Hunt and Lockhart stayed on the ground saw them rewarded, but it was the exception. Neal-Bulleen provided nothing again in the forward line, with his opponent Saad doubling his possessions. 2018 performances shouldn’t get games in 2019. This week the Hun re-opened the wounds of the “tanking saga” of the 2009 season ... winning no more than 4 games was thought to be a good thing, because it worked for Carlton, Collingwood, Hawthorn and others in previous years. Well that turned out really well didn’t it, since we learned playing by last years rules doesn’t get you reward. Are we making the same mistake on the field in 2019? Melbourne 3.1.19 10.1.61 12.3.75 18.4.112 Essendon 6.4.40 8.6.54 15.6.96 20.10.130 Goals Melbourne Harmes Hunt 3 Lockhart Melksham Weideman 2 Brayshaw Gawn Kolodjashnij Neal-Bullen Petracca C Wagner Essendon McDonald-Tipungwuti McKernan Stringer 4 Fantasia Smith 2 Baguley McGrath Parish Zaharakis Best Melbourne Gawn Brayshaw Hunt Oliver Harmes Lockhart Essendon Heppell Shiel McDonald-Tipungwuti Zaharakis Stringer Fantasia Injuries Melbourne T McDonald (ankle) Essendon Mutch (hamstring), Francis (corked quad) Reports Nil Umpires Stevic Harris Haussen Official crowd 52,475 at the MCG
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Seems like an obvious statement doesn’t it? Yet the MFC coaching staff/team seem to have forgotten to change their calendars on January 1st. A 3 goal loss against the equal bottom side in the competition and now with a 0-3 record for the current season, it should be obvious that things have changed from 2018. Not so on the field, as Melbourne continue to play the style which got them to a Preliminary final. Once again the Demons saw 20 goals scored against them for the game. It is easy for the coach to come out and say “ we were scored against easily” but the reason that happened is probably because we are still playing the game as it was played in 2018. The rules have changed, and other teams have worked us out. The Melbourne “brand” of contested football is fine if you win the ball, when you don’t it means you leak goals because we have insufficient players behind and outside the contest. It is why we see other teams this season “waltz” the ball into goal. It is why opposition forwards are seen to be un-manned. The Rules have changed. 6-6-6 was introduced to open the game up in the middle. The jury on that aspect is still out, but opposition coaches are now sitting a resting ruck in their forward line in lieu and we have seen it in all 3 games in 2019. In this game Zac Clarke was brought into the side to do exactly that alongside Bellchambers. They had little effect as players, but it forced us to put one of our tall defenders on them and that opened the gate for Stringer, Tipungwuti and McKernan who each kicked 4 goals! And our resting ruck?…..he will be playing at Casey. It may not be obvious to some but Jesse Hogan is now playing for Fremantle. We are playing with 1 less tall forward in 2019. So why is Sam Weidemann being used as a substitute ruck? In this game against the Bombers, we saw the ridiculous situation when Tom McDonald injured an ankle in the 2nd quarter, had to leave the ground, and then was used on a wing. Max Gawn was resting on the bench and Weideman was rucking. Even after Gawn came back on, Weideman had to be rested on the bench. Having Gawn return to the ruck position saw Melbourne’s resurgence in that quarter. Does that not send a message we need a full-time ruckman on the ground? It is easy when the opposition kicks 20 goals to focus on the backline. There is no doubt that Oscar McDonald is playing well below par. Frost is filling a hole, which he will probably continue to do so, even with the return of May and Lever. But they are being asked to take on opponents much bigger and stronger than themselves, especially with resting rucks dropping back. Then to top it off we are still following the mantra of going at the man with the ball, even if it means 3 Melbourne players doing exactly the same thing, resulting in loose opposition players. And the backline needs help, especially with our current defender drought. The wingers need to get back to cover, but instead are heading toward the middle like they did in 2018. In 2019 it should be the HFF’s heading to the wing and the middle, but hey it worked last year, didn’t it? The disfunction of the forward line is more critical, because this is from where the opposition in 2019 have launched their attacks. Contested football isn’t just in the middle, and once again the lack of pressure from the forwards to keep the ball inside the scoring area was appalling. We saw Melbourne players all flying for the ball leaving no-one crumbing. The times when Hunt and Lockhart stayed on the ground saw them rewarded, but it was the exception. Neal-Bulleen provided nothing again in the forward line, with his opponent Saad doubling his possessions. 2018 performances shouldn’t get games in 2019. This week the Hun re-opened the wounds of the “tanking saga” of the 2009 season ... winning no more than 4 games was thought to be a good thing, because it worked for Carlton, Collingwood, Hawthorn and others in previous years. Well that turned out really well didn’t it, since we learned playing by last years rules doesn’t get you reward. Are we making the same mistake on the field in 2019? Melbourne 3.1.19 10.1.61 12.3.75 18.4.112 Essendon 6.4.40 8.6.54 15.6.96 20.10.130 Goals Melbourne Harmes Hunt 3 Lockhart Melksham Weideman 2 Brayshaw Gawn Kolodjashnij Neal-Bullen Petracca C Wagner Essendon McDonald-Tipungwuti McKernan Stringer 4 Fantasia Smith 2 Baguley McGrath Parish Zaharakis Best Melbourne Gawn Brayshaw Hunt Oliver Harmes Lockhart Essendon Heppell Shiel McDonald-Tipungwuti Zaharakis Stringer Fantasia Injuries Melbourne T McDonald (ankle) Essendon Mutch (hamstring), Francis (corked quad) Reports Nil Umpires Stevic Harris Haussen Official crowd 52,475 at the MCG
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6,5,4,3,2,1
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They should have forced the Essendon little league to wear a clash strip. I can't tell who's who.
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My hot tip; they're grooming Bernie Vince to take over from Robbo.
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Pathetic crowd for a home game against a Victorian team in Round 3.
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Essendon fans walking around in a daze unable to find where they sit at an away game against Melbourne.
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? | https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/it-looked-walked-and-quacked-like-tanking-why-the-afl-spared-the-demons-from-tanking-charge-20190405-p51b8b.html
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? | https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-04/im-a-fair-way-off-the-mark-at-the-moment-admits-big-dee-mcdonald
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? | https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/04/03/jack-viney's-emotional-afl-initiation/
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From the HUN artcile ... ? | https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/simon-goodwin-opens-up-on-melbournes-shocking-2018-preliminary-final-and-his-eye-on-the-future/news-story/a747f87037c2f001c67464d513756f06 Goodwin has not watched the game. and he did not read any critique of it. “The game was pretty clear in my head,’’ he said. “I’ve thought about it. Like anyone, to grow and learn you have to reflect so I’ve certainly reflected on everything around our program, the lead-in to the finals, the first final, the second final, what we taught, how we educated our program, our training, how we travelled, all those things you reflect on. “But it’s too hard an industry to keep looking back and being miserable about what’s behind you so you have to keep going forward.’’ Is the game far removed from your thinking in the middle of February. “Yeah, a long way.” Are you annoyed we’re going back there? “No, it’s your job and it still sits in a lot of people’s minds. It’s there, it’s great exposure, but we need to look forward.’’ So, onwards and upwards.
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Demonland Podcast LIVE Tonight (3/4) @ 8:30pm
Demonland replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
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