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These stats on the face of it appear damning but it's hard to compare the two eras. There were some massive scorelines in the late 80s to 00s. Teams would regularly kick well over 120 points a game. I was watching a game from 93 yesterday where we scored 160 points. We scored 156 points in the 00 prelim. Players kicking large bags and in turn teams kicking massive scores just is not the norm today.

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The respective ladder positions of this week’s combatants tell the story of one side on the rise and the other in steep decline. Since their most recent meeting which took place early last year, the Dees and the Lions have changed positions. They are opposed to each again on the former’s home turf with the locals in fine fettle after blowing St Kilda off the park at Marvel Stadium. The Lions’ home ground advantage has been a major consideration so far this year. They have won five out of six games there to date including fellow finals contenders in West Coast, Port Adelaide and Adelaide. At first blush, this spells doom and gloom for the Demons. Their position would appear to be hopeless. But is that really the case? After all, in a game between the sixth placed Brisbane Lions and Melbourne third from last, the statistics most certainly do not tell the whole story. Head to head, the Demons lead their opponents in disposals, clearances, the inside 50 count, contested possessions, tackles and hit outs while they do lag behind in free kicks awarded. The Lions are way ahead in terms of accuracy while their visitors continue to concede majors like water through a sieve. On a weekly basis, their opposition manage feats of remarkably accuracy when kicking for goal. The commentariat are having a field day trying to deconstruct the phenomenon. It’s to do with fitness and conditioning, too many injuries to key players, lack of skills and technique, poor form, it’s all in the head, a loss of confidence, too slow or a combination of the above. And whilst Brisbane are playing for finals honours, Melbourne has little to play for but pride - a commodity that can quickly evaporate if things turn awry in the early stages of a game. With that in mind, it won’t take long to determine whether we have a game on our hands. The Demons will be relying on its midfield ability to win contests with Max Gawn feeding his on ball brigade and hoping that the good form last week of key position players Sam Frost, Steven May and Tom McDonald will again be enough to lift them to victory. The problem I see is that there are no indication that Melbourne can turn around the season long pattern of murder by numbers in front of not only their own goal but that of their opposition and on that basis, I’m going for the Lions by 10 points. THE GAME Brisbane v Melbourne at The Gabba Sunday, 30 June, 2019 at 3.20pm HEAD TO HEAD  Overall Brisbane 20 wins, Melbourne 25 wins At The Gabba Brisbane 13 wins, Melbourne 8 wins  Last Five Meetings Brisbane 1 win, Melbourne 4 wins The Coaches Fagan 0 wins, Goodwin 2 wins MEDIA TV - Channel 7, Fox Sports 3 Live at 3.00pm Radio - TBA LAST TIME THEY MET Melbourne 14.16.100 defeated Brisbane 10.14.74 at the Gabba, Round 2, 2018 After letting victory against Geelong slip through it grasp in Round 1, Melbourne again looked shaky when the Lions came back from a 42-point third-term deficit to level the scores in the fourth. It took some magic from Jeff Garlett who finished with four goals to allow the Demons to draw away and record their first win of the season. Jesse Hogan was in fine touch with five goals, 22 disposals and nine marks. THE TEAMS BRISBANE B Luke Hodge Harris Andrews Daniel Rich HB Alex Witherden Darcy Gardiner Noah Answerth C Dayne Zorko Lachie Neale Lincoln McCarthy HF Cam Rayner Eric Hipwood Mitch Robinson F Charles Cameron Daniel McStay Zac Bailey FOLL Stefan Martin Hugh McCluggage Jarryd Lyons I/C Jarrod Berry Allen Christensen Ryan Lester Oscar McInerney EMG Ben Keays Corey Lyons Sam Skinner Brandon Starcevich IN Zac Bailey Jarrod Berry OUT Jacob Allison (omitted) Rhys Mathieson (omitted) MELBOURNE B Jay Lockhart Steven May Christian Salem HB Nathan Jones Sam Frost Bayley Fritsch C Oskar Baker James Harmes Angus Brayshaw HF Jayden Hunt Tim Smith Christian Petracca F Mitch Hannan Tom McDonald Sam Weideman FOLL Max Gawn Jack Viney Clayton Oliver I/C Michael Hibberd Marty Hore Alex Neal-Bullen Harrison Petty EMG Jordan Lewis Oscar McDonald Braydon Preuss Corey Wagner IN Michael Hibberd OUT Josh Wagner (omitted) Injury List: Round 15 Michael Hibberd (collarbone) – test Kade Chandler (hip) – test Jake Lever (knee) – 1-2 weeks Neville Jetta (knee) – 2-3 weeks Billy Stretch (foot) – 2-3 weeks Declan Keilty (ankle) – 3-4 weeks Jake Melksham (foot) – 4-6 weeks Tom Sparrow (knee) – 4-6 weeks Kade Kolodjashnij (head) – TBC Aaron vandenBerg (foot) – TBC Jeff Garlett (shoulder) – season Joel Smith (groin) – season Aaron Nietschke (knee) – season Guy Walker (shoulder) – indefinite

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First half hour was pre-recorded so I could post freely during that time.

I prefer to pre-record the guest interviews to take the stress out of if something technical goes wrong with getting onto the stream. Nothing worse than trying to troubleshoot with a guest waiting on the line. Sorry for the confusion.

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We'll be LIVE with the Rod Grinter interview in 10 minutes followed by discussion of the win over the Dockers. Listen & Chat: https://demonland.com/podcast Call: 03 9016 3666 Skype: Demonland31 We'd love to hear from Demonlanders so call in after the Grinter interview.

We pre-recorded the interview earlier this evening. I would have asked otherwise. Get the questions in earlier folks.

Up to Round 14 2019 https://twitter.com/AussieRulesInfo/status/1143061138034192384

Yep. He'll get off.

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It was some time ago. Melbourne got a great start but was wound back and kicked at the end to win it’s first game for 2018. THE TEAMS BRISBANE LIONS B: Nick Robertson, Josh Walker, Darcy Gardiner HB: Luke Hodge, Harris Andrews, Alex Witherden ? Lewis Taylor, Dayne Zorko, Ryan Lester HF: Cameron Rayner, Daniel McStay, Hugh McCluggage F: Allen Christensen, Eric Hipwood, Charlie Cameron Foll: Stefan Martin, Jarrod Berry, Dayne Beams I/C: Rohan Bewick, Cedric Cox, Rhys Mathieson, Sam Mayes Emg: Zac Bailey, Jake Barrett, Tom Cutler, Archie Smith IN: Rohan Bewick, Cedric Cox, Rhys Mathieson OUT: Tom Bell (omitted), Daniel Rich (ankle), Mitch Robinson (suspended) MELBOURNE B: Michael Hibberd, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta HB: Jordan Lewis, Jake Lever, Bernie Vince ? Jayden Hunt, Christian Salem, Nathan Jones HF: Christian Petracca, Cameron Pedersen, James Harmes F: Bayley Fritsch, Jesse Hogan, Jeff Garlett Foll Max Gawn Clayton Oliver Alex Neal-Bullen I/C Dom Tyson Jake Melksham Tomas Bugg Josh Wagner Emg: Sam Frost, Dean Kent, Corey Maynard, Billy Stretch IN: Tomas Bugg, Dom Tyson OUT: Mitch Hannan (omitted), Corey Maynard (omitted)

Even if he did stage for the Jones one the free reversal was there. It was right in front of the umpire. I want to know what the 50 m was for.

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MUD HEAP by KC from Casey In the opening round of the 2018 VFL season, the Casey Demons enjoyed an emphatic 107 point victory over Coburg at Piranha Park. The team was loaded with Melbourne listed players (half a dozen of them were in the team that beat Fremantle on Saturday) and the side was in its way to a grand final appearance. A season and a half later, the club returned to the same venue in the hope of kick starting a season that had gone somewhat awry under new coach Sam Radford and while they tasted victory (as you always do in those circumstances), the 15 point win was far from convincing. It should be said that the Demons were the dominant side on the day. They dominated the inside 50 count by 52 to 28 and doubled the Tigers in the number of scoring shots by 20 to 10. They won the marks and thanks mainly to Braydon Preuss totally eclipsed the opposition in hit outs but at the end of the day had less disposals and scored only one goal more than the plucky home side in what was a dull, scrap played on a mud heap in cold and misty conditions. They even scored than that losing Coburg team managed in last year’s opening round drubbing. Coburg adopted a defensive stance from the beginning by flooding their back line and the tactic work with three straight first goals on the rebound while the visitors managed only two goals from their many forays in attack to trail by 2 points at the first break. The classiest player on the ground by far was veteran Jordan Lewis who was simply sublime in the way he dictated proceedings and set up numerous attacking moves. It took until the last ten minutes of the half for the Demons to take control and move to a 26 point lead with three goals late in a term in which Coburg was held goalless. The rest of the game was nothing to write home about - a defensive affair played in a bit of a glue pot where the local’s accuracy saw them remain in close enough to wind the Demons back late in the game to a final margin of 15 points at a cost of what should have been a valuable percentage gain against the second from bottom side. The better players for Casey (apart from Lewis) were Preuss with 55 hit outs, Jay Kennedy Harris who was full of class, Corey Wagner and Corey Maynard while Kade Kolodjashnij also had his moments. Kyle Dunkley kicked an early goal and was busy early. The Demons would be very happy with his composure and form at this stage of his career. The Demons are a game and percentage out of the top eight and must beat last year’s premiers, the Box Hill Hawks at Casey Fields next Saturday to remain in the race. 2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL Casey Demons 2.4.16 6.8.44 7.11.53 9.11.65 Coburg 3.0.18 3.0.18 5.1.31 8.2.50 Goals Casey Demons Bedford Bradtke Dunkley Kolodjashnij Maynard Preuss Quigley C Wagner White Coburg McEvoy Stroobants 3 Carroll Podhajski Best Casey Demons J Lewis C Wagner Maynard Preuss Vella Bedford Coburg Bunker Lentini Exon Nolan Foster Binion Statistics Toby Bedford 1 goal 1 behind 5 kicks 7 handballs 12 disposals 7 tackles 66 dream team points Austin Bradkte 1 goal 2 behinds 6 kicks 2 handballs 8 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 11 hit outs 50 dream team points Heath Briggs 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 34 dream team points Kade Chandler 2 kicks 1 handball 3 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 19 dream team points Wayne Collis 8 kicks 1 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 41 dream team points Kyle Dunkley 1 goal 12 kicks 5 handballs 17 disposals 3 tackles 66 dream team points Tom Freeman 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 4 marks 50 dream team points Jack Hutchins 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 1 marks 4 tackles 43 dream team points James Jordon 1 behind 9 kicks 2 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 55 dream team points Declan Keilty 1 kick 5 handballs 6 disposals 1 marks 8 tackles 12 hit outs 61 dream team points Jay Kennedy Harris 1 behind 14 kicks 7 handballs 21 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 78 dream team points Kade Kolodjashnij 1 goal 15 kicks 6 handballs 21 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 95 dream team points Mykelti Lefau 2 behinds 5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 38 dream team points Jordan Lewis 19 kicks 20 handballs 39 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 129 dream team points Corey Maynard 1 goal 1 behind 13 kicks 14 handballs 27 disposals 8 marks 3 tackles 105 dream team points James Munro 5 kicks 5 handballs 10 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 37 dream team points Braydon Preuss 1 goal 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 55 hit outs 121 dream team points Aiden Quigley 1 goal 4 kicks 12 handballs 16 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 50 dream team points Charlie Spargo 4 kicks 7 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 48 dream team points Cory Stockdale 7 behinds 4 kicks 11 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 45 dream team points Anthony Vella 6 kicks 8 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 48 dream team points Corey Wagner 1 goal 1 behind 14 kicks 4 handballs 18 disposals 3 marks 12 tackles 110 dream team points Mitchell White 1 goal 1 behind 7 kicks 4 handballs 11disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 55 dream team points 

In the opening round of the 2018 VFL season, the Casey Demons enjoyed an emphatic 107 point victory over Coburg at Piranha Park. The team was loaded with Melbourne listed players (half a dozen of them were in the team that beat Fremantle on Saturday) and the side was in its way to a grand final appearance. A season and a half later, the club returned to the same venue in the hope of kick starting a season that had gone somewhat awry under new coach Sam Radford and while they tasted victory (as you always do in those circumstances), the 15 point win was far from convincing. It should be said that the Demons were the dominant side on the day. They dominated the inside 50 count by 52 to 28 and doubled the Tigers in the number of scoring shots by 20 to 10. They won the marks and thanks mainly to Braydon Preuss totally eclipsed the opposition in hit outs but at the end of the day had less disposals and scored only one goal more than the plucky home side in what was a dull, scrap played on a mud heap in cold and misty conditions. They even scored than that losing Coburg team managed in last year’s opening round drubbing. Coburg adopted a defensive stance from the beginning by flooding their back line and the tactic work with three straight first goals on the rebound while the visitors managed only two goals from their many forays in attack to trail by 2 points at the first break. The classiest player on the ground by far was veteran Jordan Lewis who was simply sublime in the way he dictated proceedings and set up numerous attacking moves. It took until the last ten minutes of the half for the Demons to take control and move to a 26 point lead with three goals late in a term in which Coburg was held goalless. The rest of the game was nothing to write home about - a defensive affair played in a bit of a glue pot where the local’s accuracy saw them remain in close enough to wind the Demons back late in the game to a final margin of 15 points at a cost of what should have been a valuable percentage gain against the second from bottom side. The better players for Casey (apart from Lewis) were Preuss with 55 hit outs, Jay Kennedy Harris who was full of class, Corey Wagner and Corey Maynard while Kade Kolodjashnij also had his moments. Kyle Dunkley kicked an early goal and was busy early. The Demons would be very happy with his composure and form at this stage of his career. The Demons are a game and percentage out of the top eight and must beat last year’s premiers, the Box Hill Hawks at Casey Fields next Saturday to remain in the race. 2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL Casey Demons 2.4.16 6.8.44 7.11.53 9.11.65 Coburg 3.0.18 3.0.18 5.1.31 8.2.50 Goals Casey Demons Bedford Bradtke Dunkley Kolodjashnij Maynard Preuss Quigley C Wagner White Coburg McEvoy Stroobants 3 Carroll Podhajski Best Casey Demons J Lewis C Wagner Maynard Preuss Vella Bedford Coburg Bunker Lentini Exon Nolan Foster Binion Statistics Toby Bedford 1 goal 1 behind 5 kicks 7 handballs 12 disposals 7 tackles 66 dream team points Austin Bradkte 1 goal 2 behinds 6 kicks 2 handballs 8 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 11 hit outs 50 dream team points Heath Briggs 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 34 dream team points Kade Chandler 2 kicks 1 handball 3 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 19 dream team points Wayne Collis 8 kicks 1 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 41 dream team points Kyle Dunkley 1 goal 12 kicks 5 handballs 17 disposals 3 tackles 66 dream team points Tom Freeman 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 4 marks 50 dream team points Jack Hutchins 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 1 marks 4 tackles 43 dream team points James Jordon 1 behind 9 kicks 2 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 55 dream team points Declan Keilty 1 kick 5 handballs 6 disposals 1 marks 8 tackles 12 hit outs 61 dream team points Jay Kennedy Harris 1 behind 14 kicks 7 handballs 21 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 78 dream team points Kade Kolodjashnij 1 goal 15 kicks 6 handballs 21 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 95 dream team points Mykelti Lefau 2 behinds 5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 38 dream team points Jordan Lewis 19 kicks 20 handballs 39 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 129 dream team points Corey Maynard 1 goal 1 behind 13 kicks 14 handballs 27 disposals 8 marks 3 tackles 105 dream team points James Munro 5 kicks 5 handballs 10 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 37 dream team points Braydon Preuss 1 goal 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 55 hit outs 121 dream team points Aiden Quigley 1 goal 4 kicks 12 handballs 16 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 50 dream team points Charlie Spargo 4 kicks 7 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 48 dream team points Cory Stockdale 7 behinds 4 kicks 11 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 45 dream team points Anthony Vella 6 kicks 8 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 48 dream team points Corey Wagner 1 goal 1 behind 14 kicks 4 handballs 18 disposals 3 marks 12 tackles 110 dream team points Mitchell White 1 goal 1 behind 7 kicks 4 handballs 11disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 55 dream team points 

Max and Clarrie. 1 & 2. Progressive 156. Max Gawn 120. Clayton Oliver 90. James Harmes 75. Christian Salem 73. Angus Brayshaw 44. Jack Viney 42. Sam Frost Marty Hore 38. Nathan Jones 31. Jake Melksham 28. Jayden Hunt 12. Michael Hibberd Jay Lockhart 10. Tom McDonald Christian Petracca 6. Steven May 5. Oskar Baker Bayley Fritsch 4. Braydon Preuss Josh Wagner 3. Corey Wagner Sam Weideman 2. Alex Neal-Bullen 1. Jeff Garlett Neville Jetta Oscar McDonald Billy Stretch

A good comeback at the G.