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It was some time ago. Melbourne got a great start but was wound back and kicked at the end to win it’s first game for 2018. THE TEAMS BRISBANE LIONS B: Nick Robertson, Josh Walker, Darcy Gardiner HB: Luke Hodge, Harris Andrews, Alex Witherden ? Lewis Taylor, Dayne Zorko, Ryan Lester HF: Cameron Rayner, Daniel McStay, Hugh McCluggage F: Allen Christensen, Eric Hipwood, Charlie Cameron Foll: Stefan Martin, Jarrod Berry, Dayne Beams I/C: Rohan Bewick, Cedric Cox, Rhys Mathieson, Sam Mayes Emg: Zac Bailey, Jake Barrett, Tom Cutler, Archie Smith IN: Rohan Bewick, Cedric Cox, Rhys Mathieson OUT: Tom Bell (omitted), Daniel Rich (ankle), Mitch Robinson (suspended) MELBOURNE B: Michael Hibberd, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta HB: Jordan Lewis, Jake Lever, Bernie Vince ? Jayden Hunt, Christian Salem, Nathan Jones HF: Christian Petracca, Cameron Pedersen, James Harmes F: Bayley Fritsch, Jesse Hogan, Jeff Garlett Foll Max Gawn Clayton Oliver Alex Neal-Bullen I/C Dom Tyson Jake Melksham Tomas Bugg Josh Wagner Emg: Sam Frost, Dean Kent, Corey Maynard, Billy Stretch IN: Tomas Bugg, Dom Tyson OUT: Mitch Hannan (omitted), Corey Maynard (omitted)

Even if he did stage for the Jones one the free reversal was there. It was right in front of the umpire. I want to know what the 50 m was for.

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MUD HEAP by KC from Casey In the opening round of the 2018 VFL season, the Casey Demons enjoyed an emphatic 107 point victory over Coburg at Piranha Park. The team was loaded with Melbourne listed players (half a dozen of them were in the team that beat Fremantle on Saturday) and the side was in its way to a grand final appearance. A season and a half later, the club returned to the same venue in the hope of kick starting a season that had gone somewhat awry under new coach Sam Radford and while they tasted victory (as you always do in those circumstances), the 15 point win was far from convincing. It should be said that the Demons were the dominant side on the day. They dominated the inside 50 count by 52 to 28 and doubled the Tigers in the number of scoring shots by 20 to 10. They won the marks and thanks mainly to Braydon Preuss totally eclipsed the opposition in hit outs but at the end of the day had less disposals and scored only one goal more than the plucky home side in what was a dull, scrap played on a mud heap in cold and misty conditions. They even scored than that losing Coburg team managed in last year’s opening round drubbing. Coburg adopted a defensive stance from the beginning by flooding their back line and the tactic work with three straight first goals on the rebound while the visitors managed only two goals from their many forays in attack to trail by 2 points at the first break. The classiest player on the ground by far was veteran Jordan Lewis who was simply sublime in the way he dictated proceedings and set up numerous attacking moves. It took until the last ten minutes of the half for the Demons to take control and move to a 26 point lead with three goals late in a term in which Coburg was held goalless. The rest of the game was nothing to write home about - a defensive affair played in a bit of a glue pot where the local’s accuracy saw them remain in close enough to wind the Demons back late in the game to a final margin of 15 points at a cost of what should have been a valuable percentage gain against the second from bottom side. The better players for Casey (apart from Lewis) were Preuss with 55 hit outs, Jay Kennedy Harris who was full of class, Corey Wagner and Corey Maynard while Kade Kolodjashnij also had his moments. Kyle Dunkley kicked an early goal and was busy early. The Demons would be very happy with his composure and form at this stage of his career. The Demons are a game and percentage out of the top eight and must beat last year’s premiers, the Box Hill Hawks at Casey Fields next Saturday to remain in the race. 2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL Casey Demons 2.4.16 6.8.44 7.11.53 9.11.65 Coburg 3.0.18 3.0.18 5.1.31 8.2.50 Goals Casey Demons Bedford Bradtke Dunkley Kolodjashnij Maynard Preuss Quigley C Wagner White Coburg McEvoy Stroobants 3 Carroll Podhajski Best Casey Demons J Lewis C Wagner Maynard Preuss Vella Bedford Coburg Bunker Lentini Exon Nolan Foster Binion Statistics Toby Bedford 1 goal 1 behind 5 kicks 7 handballs 12 disposals 7 tackles 66 dream team points Austin Bradkte 1 goal 2 behinds 6 kicks 2 handballs 8 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 11 hit outs 50 dream team points Heath Briggs 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 34 dream team points Kade Chandler 2 kicks 1 handball 3 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 19 dream team points Wayne Collis 8 kicks 1 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 41 dream team points Kyle Dunkley 1 goal 12 kicks 5 handballs 17 disposals 3 tackles 66 dream team points Tom Freeman 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 4 marks 50 dream team points Jack Hutchins 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 1 marks 4 tackles 43 dream team points James Jordon 1 behind 9 kicks 2 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 55 dream team points Declan Keilty 1 kick 5 handballs 6 disposals 1 marks 8 tackles 12 hit outs 61 dream team points Jay Kennedy Harris 1 behind 14 kicks 7 handballs 21 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 78 dream team points Kade Kolodjashnij 1 goal 15 kicks 6 handballs 21 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 95 dream team points Mykelti Lefau 2 behinds 5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 38 dream team points Jordan Lewis 19 kicks 20 handballs 39 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 129 dream team points Corey Maynard 1 goal 1 behind 13 kicks 14 handballs 27 disposals 8 marks 3 tackles 105 dream team points James Munro 5 kicks 5 handballs 10 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 37 dream team points Braydon Preuss 1 goal 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 55 hit outs 121 dream team points Aiden Quigley 1 goal 4 kicks 12 handballs 16 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 50 dream team points Charlie Spargo 4 kicks 7 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 48 dream team points Cory Stockdale 7 behinds 4 kicks 11 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 45 dream team points Anthony Vella 6 kicks 8 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 48 dream team points Corey Wagner 1 goal 1 behind 14 kicks 4 handballs 18 disposals 3 marks 12 tackles 110 dream team points Mitchell White 1 goal 1 behind 7 kicks 4 handballs 11disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 55 dream team points 

In the opening round of the 2018 VFL season, the Casey Demons enjoyed an emphatic 107 point victory over Coburg at Piranha Park. The team was loaded with Melbourne listed players (half a dozen of them were in the team that beat Fremantle on Saturday) and the side was in its way to a grand final appearance. A season and a half later, the club returned to the same venue in the hope of kick starting a season that had gone somewhat awry under new coach Sam Radford and while they tasted victory (as you always do in those circumstances), the 15 point win was far from convincing. It should be said that the Demons were the dominant side on the day. They dominated the inside 50 count by 52 to 28 and doubled the Tigers in the number of scoring shots by 20 to 10. They won the marks and thanks mainly to Braydon Preuss totally eclipsed the opposition in hit outs but at the end of the day had less disposals and scored only one goal more than the plucky home side in what was a dull, scrap played on a mud heap in cold and misty conditions. They even scored than that losing Coburg team managed in last year’s opening round drubbing. Coburg adopted a defensive stance from the beginning by flooding their back line and the tactic work with three straight first goals on the rebound while the visitors managed only two goals from their many forays in attack to trail by 2 points at the first break. The classiest player on the ground by far was veteran Jordan Lewis who was simply sublime in the way he dictated proceedings and set up numerous attacking moves. It took until the last ten minutes of the half for the Demons to take control and move to a 26 point lead with three goals late in a term in which Coburg was held goalless. The rest of the game was nothing to write home about - a defensive affair played in a bit of a glue pot where the local’s accuracy saw them remain in close enough to wind the Demons back late in the game to a final margin of 15 points at a cost of what should have been a valuable percentage gain against the second from bottom side. The better players for Casey (apart from Lewis) were Preuss with 55 hit outs, Jay Kennedy Harris who was full of class, Corey Wagner and Corey Maynard while Kade Kolodjashnij also had his moments. Kyle Dunkley kicked an early goal and was busy early. The Demons would be very happy with his composure and form at this stage of his career. The Demons are a game and percentage out of the top eight and must beat last year’s premiers, the Box Hill Hawks at Casey Fields next Saturday to remain in the race. 2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL Casey Demons 2.4.16 6.8.44 7.11.53 9.11.65 Coburg 3.0.18 3.0.18 5.1.31 8.2.50 Goals Casey Demons Bedford Bradtke Dunkley Kolodjashnij Maynard Preuss Quigley C Wagner White Coburg McEvoy Stroobants 3 Carroll Podhajski Best Casey Demons J Lewis C Wagner Maynard Preuss Vella Bedford Coburg Bunker Lentini Exon Nolan Foster Binion Statistics Toby Bedford 1 goal 1 behind 5 kicks 7 handballs 12 disposals 7 tackles 66 dream team points Austin Bradkte 1 goal 2 behinds 6 kicks 2 handballs 8 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 11 hit outs 50 dream team points Heath Briggs 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 34 dream team points Kade Chandler 2 kicks 1 handball 3 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 19 dream team points Wayne Collis 8 kicks 1 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 41 dream team points Kyle Dunkley 1 goal 12 kicks 5 handballs 17 disposals 3 tackles 66 dream team points Tom Freeman 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 4 marks 50 dream team points Jack Hutchins 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 1 marks 4 tackles 43 dream team points James Jordon 1 behind 9 kicks 2 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 55 dream team points Declan Keilty 1 kick 5 handballs 6 disposals 1 marks 8 tackles 12 hit outs 61 dream team points Jay Kennedy Harris 1 behind 14 kicks 7 handballs 21 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 78 dream team points Kade Kolodjashnij 1 goal 15 kicks 6 handballs 21 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 95 dream team points Mykelti Lefau 2 behinds 5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 38 dream team points Jordan Lewis 19 kicks 20 handballs 39 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 129 dream team points Corey Maynard 1 goal 1 behind 13 kicks 14 handballs 27 disposals 8 marks 3 tackles 105 dream team points James Munro 5 kicks 5 handballs 10 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 37 dream team points Braydon Preuss 1 goal 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 55 hit outs 121 dream team points Aiden Quigley 1 goal 4 kicks 12 handballs 16 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 50 dream team points Charlie Spargo 4 kicks 7 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 48 dream team points Cory Stockdale 7 behinds 4 kicks 11 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 45 dream team points Anthony Vella 6 kicks 8 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 48 dream team points Corey Wagner 1 goal 1 behind 14 kicks 4 handballs 18 disposals 3 marks 12 tackles 110 dream team points Mitchell White 1 goal 1 behind 7 kicks 4 handballs 11disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 55 dream team points 

Max and Clarrie. 1 & 2. Progressive 156. Max Gawn 120. Clayton Oliver 90. James Harmes 75. Christian Salem 73. Angus Brayshaw 44. Jack Viney 42. Sam Frost Marty Hore 38. Nathan Jones 31. Jake Melksham 28. Jayden Hunt 12. Michael Hibberd Jay Lockhart 10. Tom McDonald Christian Petracca 6. Steven May 5. Oskar Baker Bayley Fritsch 4. Braydon Preuss Josh Wagner 3. Corey Wagner Sam Weideman 2. Alex Neal-Bullen 1. Jeff Garlett Neville Jetta Oscar McDonald Billy Stretch

A good comeback at the G.

PRETENDERS SENT PACKING by George on the Outer Fremantle, the Perth pretenders at sixth on the premiership table should have easily accounted for the Demons, sitting barely a game off the bottom of the ladder. And for the majority of the game, it certainly looked that would be the case, until the final quarter, when the Demons stopped giving the Dockers easy chances, or making plain, dumb decisions. Not that their situation was helped by some simply appalling umpiring during the match, that kept gifting Fremantle easy scores. The Demons chances were boosted in the first quarter, when former player, Jesse Hogan went down with yet another foot injury, and despite what Ross Lyon has said post game, this is looks very muck like a repeat of his previous ongoing issues that were a contributing factor in his trade back home. Still, Melbourne has missed his presence up front for 2019, as its own forward line is still utterly dysfunctional. At ¾ time it was the same old story, many more inside 50’s and marks in that zone than the Dockers, and yet they trailed on the scoreboard. Tom McDonald couldn’t get into the game early, Sam Weideman barely had a touch, and only for Tim Smith and Jay Lockhart the scoreboard barely kept ticking over. Then whatever they put in the refreshments in the ¾ time break worked a treat. McDonald went berserk, and after struggling to kick more than 35m in the first half of the season, he nailed a long outside 50 set shot, and the Demons were away. He followed up with a brilliant snap along the ground from the pocket and the game was as good as over, especially with James Harmes marking and scoring from the goal square, that followed a series of accurate and precise kicks started in the backline. That in itself represented a first for the Demons in this game, as time and time again, they had squandered chances. Finally they hit targets and the game was over. The addition of Stephen May to the backline was one of the big positives. He generalled the players around him, and provided a rock solid wall to Fremantle attacking moves. Ably assisted by Sam Frost, with some telling intercept marks and dashes out of defence, which he has become famous for, the backline is starting to look composed. Even so, we have to remember that up to this point in the season we have been missing Nev Jetta, Michael Hibberd, Jake Lever, Jordan Lewis, May himself and Christian Salem from defence at some point or other. Now we are seeing stability and none more so than Marty Hore, who just keeps popping up with those telling marks at critical points in the game. He reads the ball and the play beautifully, and when the fully contingent of players become available, it will be hard to overlook him. As usual, Max Gawn dominated in the middle and around the ground. Even with 46 hitouts, his opponent managed 31, but it was Max’s 20 disposals to Darcy’s 8 and his 8 contested possessions with 7 clearances that was telling. Assisted in the middle by Clayton Oliver with 28 touches (16 contested) and Jack Viney also with 28 (15 contested), they provided plenty of drive. Unfortunately, Nate Fyfe gave James Harmes a bath, with 31 touches, but it would have been a job that nobody could have done better, as Fyfe was in as good form as he has been since his Brownlow season. Jay Lockhart was a brilliant promotion into the side, and with a 21 possession, 10 contested, two goal game, he has cemented a spot in the side as that small forward that we have been lacking since the season started. He simply has “football smarts” and knows where to be, when to go and when to sit off the pack. Harrison Petty did his job again, and while not exemplary, this is what development of young players is all about. He is finding his feet when surrounded with older, wiser heads, and hopefully by season end he will have a dozen games to his name, and be a more regular fixture in the backline. Tim Smith likewise did his job on his return, and contributed three telling goals to keep the side in the hunt in those poor first ¾’s. He at least provides a target and takes a strong defender, especially when Weideman is so far off contributing in a meaningful way. We probably will persist for the remainder of the season, just to get games and valuable experience into him, but he doesn’t read the ball well in flight, and is too slow to react to movement of the ball at the moment. Before this game Melbourne was four points off the bottom of the ladder, and this win probably keeps it away from this position. To be sitting three games and percentage outside the top eight is unfortunate, and once again a season of lost opportunities is looming. But the second half of this season also gives plenty of those opportunities to build and showcase and provide hope and expectations for the future, something that was lacking with the horrible injury situation the Demons found themselves in for the first half. Melbourne must prove that it isn’t just making up the numbers, that we are not pretenders after a Preliminary final position last year - unlike Fremantle which on Saturday’s effort will struggle to make it to September. Melbourne 2.1.13 5.4.34 9.6.60 13.7.85 Fremantle 4.1.25 6.4.40 10.5.65 11.5.71 Goals Melbourne T McDonald T Smith 3 Lockhart 2 Gawn Harmes Oliver Petracca Weideman Fremantle Matera Walters 3 Brayshaw Cox Darcy Langdon Tucker Best Melbourne Oliver Gawn T McDonald Viney Lockhart Brayshaw Fremantle B Hill Fyfe Matera Walters Conca Langdon Injuries Melbourne Nil Fremantle Stephen Hill (hamstring) Jesse Hogan (foot) Reports Melbourne Nil Fremantle Michael Walters (Fremantle) reported for headbutting Umpires Deboy Dore Findlay Foot Official Crowd 20,211 at MCG

Fremantle, the Perth pretenders at sixth on the premiership table should have easily accounted for the Demons, sitting barely a game off the bottom of the ladder. And for the majority of the game, it certainly looked that would be the case, until the final quarter, when the Demons stopped giving the Dockers easy chances, or making plain, dumb decisions. Not that their situation was helped by some simply appalling umpiring during the match, that kept gifting Fremantle easy scores. The Demons chances were boosted in the first quarter, when former player, Jesse Hogan went down with yet another foot injury, and despite what Ross Lyon has said post game, this is looks very muck like a repeat of his previous ongoing issues that were a contributing factor in his trade back home. Still, Melbourne has missed his presence up front for 2019, as its own forward line is still utterly dysfunctional. At ¾ time it was the same old story, many more inside 50’s and marks in that zone than the Dockers, and yet they trailed on the scoreboard. Tom McDonald couldn’t get into the game early, Sam Weideman barely had a touch, and only for Tim Smith and Jay Lockhart the scoreboard barely kept ticking over. Then whatever they put in the refreshments in the ¾ time break worked a treat. McDonald went berserk, and after struggling to kick more than 35m in the first half of the season, he nailed a long outside 50 set shot, and the Demons were away. He followed up with a brilliant snap along the ground from the pocket and the game was as good as over, especially with James Harmes marking and scoring from the goal square, that followed a series of accurate and precise kicks started in the backline. That in itself represented a first for the Demons in this game, as time and time again, they had squandered chances. Finally they hit targets and the game was over. The addition of Stephen May to the backline was one of the big positives. He generalled the players around him, and provided a rock solid wall to Fremantle attacking moves. Ably assisted by Sam Frost, with some telling intercept marks and dashes out of defence, which he has become famous for, the backline is starting to look composed. Even so, we have to remember that up to this point in the season we have been missing Nev Jetta, Michael Hibberd, Jake Lever, Jordan Lewis, May himself and Christian Salem from defence at some point or other. Now we are seeing stability and none more so than Marty Hore, who just keeps popping up with those telling marks at critical points in the game. He reads the ball and the play beautifully, and when the fully contingent of players become available, it will be hard to overlook him. As usual, Max Gawn dominated in the middle and around the ground. Even with 46 hitouts, his opponent managed 31, but it was Max’s 20 disposals to Darcy’s 8 and his 8 contested possessions with 7 clearances that was telling. Assisted in the middle by Clayton Oliver with 28 touches (16 contested) and Jack Viney also with 28 (15 contested), they provided plenty of drive. Unfortunately, Nate Fyfe gave James Harmes a bath, with 31 touches, but it would have been a job that nobody could have done better, as Fyfe was in as good form as he has been since his Brownlow season. Jay Lockhart was a brilliant promotion into the side, and with a 21 possession, 10 contested, two goal game, he has cemented a spot in the side as that small forward that we have been lacking since the season started. He simply has “football smarts” and knows where to be, when to go and when to sit off the pack. Harrison Petty did his job again, and while not exemplary, this is what development of young players is all about. He is finding his feet when surrounded with older, wiser heads, and hopefully by season end he will have a dozen games to his name, and be a more regular fixture in the backline. Tim Smith likewise did his job on his return, and contributed three telling goals to keep the side in the hunt in those poor first ¾’s. He at least provides a target and takes a strong defender, especially when Weideman is so far off contributing in a meaningful way. We probably will persist for the remainder of the season, just to get games and valuable experience into him, but he doesn’t read the ball well in flight, and is too slow to react to movement of the ball at the moment. Before this game Melbourne was four points off the bottom of the ladder, and this win probably keeps it away from this position. To be sitting three games and percentage outside the top eight is unfortunate, and once again a season of lost opportunities is looming. But the second half of this season also gives plenty of those opportunities to build and showcase and provide hope and expectations for the future, something that was lacking with the horrible injury situation the Demons found themselves in for the first half. Melbourne must prove that it isn’t just making up the numbers, that we are not pretenders after a Preliminary final position last year - unlike Fremantle which on Saturday’s effort will struggle to make it to September. Melbourne 2.1.13 5.4.34 9.6.60 13.7.85 Fremantle 4.1.25 6.4.40 10.5.65 11.5.71 Goals Melbourne T McDonald T Smith 3 Lockhart 2 Gawn Harmes Oliver Petracca Weideman Fremantle Matera Walters 3 Brayshaw Cox Darcy Langdon Tucker Best Melbourne Oliver Gawn T McDonald Viney Lockhart Brayshaw Fremantle B Hill Fyfe Matera Walters Conca Langdon Injuries Melbourne Nil Fremantle Stephen Hill (hamstring) Jesse Hogan (foot) Reports Melbourne Nil Fremantle Michael Walters (Fremantle) reported for headbutting Umpires Deboy Dore Findlay Foot Official Crowd 20,211 at MCG

Understood. Good to see you nonetheless.

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Also a Bluey Truscott winner.

These stats tell me is that things would not have transpired differently in 2019 had we kept Hogan.

Just for reference. The 2018 Injury thread was 24 pages and 584 posts. The 2019 Injury thread (up to pre-Round 14) is 41 pages and 1010 posts. The Jesse Hogan (Proposed Trade/Farewell) Thread was 471 pages and 11,774 posts. These numbers include deleted posts.