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@Stu @Graeme Yeats' Mullet @Travy14 @John Demonic I'll try and fit your questions in. We have a lot to get through. If @binman can be brief with his answers you might get a look in. 😜

You not playing the 3 dimensional chess that the AFL is playing. MRO suspends and then the Tribunal lets him off. Win Win. We lose of course.

We have another questions from our Demonland Facebook Page Messenger this time from Tristan F: Thanks for the podcast. I enjoy the analysis each week so keep it up as it keeps me sane. I want to ask what you think about having an ex-ruckman as our forward line coach. Clearly this is an area where we struggle in in terms of leading patterns and players all competing and flying for the same ball. Add to this we often don't have anyone staying down to mop up. Something isn't working when you lose despite have 20 plus more entries. What are your thoughts on our forward line coach? Should we target an actual credentialled forward to come in and sort this mess out next season?

Binman talked about outside 5 earlier in the year. Might be time to revisit this discussion and see what he thinks.

Back in the Red. Lucky they don't count free kicks not paid.

Hmmm. Can't see him in the photo below.

We also have a voicemail from Noah M that we will play on the show. If you want to leave a voice message for us that we'll play on the show call 03 9016 3666. Don't worry nobody answers when we're not LIVE so just wait for it to ring out and leave a message.

Question from Andrew H from the Demonland Facebook Page Messenger: Question for Pod if able. Do you think Geelong will be at a disadvantage playing finals on the MCG rather than their home ground. Growdy, long time listener & Trident member.

Whether they should have been awarded or not in another game is questionable but in the context of the frees award to the pies directly in front of their goals they most definitely should have been awarded.

I'll need more than that. I might need an exorcism.

Fox Footy reckons this will be the first week of finals.

Feel free to post your questions and comments for the guys and we'll read them out on the show.

Join @george_on_the_outer, @binman & I on the Demonland Podcast Monday night 8th August LIVE @ 8:30pm for breakdown of the Round 21 loss to Collingwood. Listen & Chat LIVE: https://demonland.com/podcast Call: 03 9016 3666 Skype: Demonland31

Before the match it was claimed that Collingwood were a “one trick pony” side. Well that one trick worked very well against Melbourne, as they extended their winning streak to 11 for the season. Meanwhile, the Demons continued to horse around with structures which simply haven’t been working. The one tall forward option with resting rucks failed yet again, in an almost identical manner to the game against the Bulldogs recently. 93 more possessions, 65 inside 50 entries 24 more than the opposition, and the side loses the game? Surely we were just horsing around? Unless the team kicks goals, and unless the forwards contain the ball in the forward half, it simply rebounds down the other end where the opposition easily score. Don’t blame the defence, they are being overrun. It is the forwards who are simply not doing the work or executing their role. Even the coach recognized this in his post match conference where he used the terms “ failed to execute in bigger moments….when it really mattered”. “ we have to convert” … Translation: kicking the easy goals. “Collingwood able to transition from the back half …” Translation: the Forwards were slack. And the fans have seen this all too often during the season. Yes, we have been hampered with injury and unavailability of forward targets, but now is the seventh time this season we have given up 3-4 goal leads. Is the team running out of steam? Or is it we are just not burying teams when we should? The failure to select a second tall forward just repeated the old experiment, and we got the same result. Ben Brown works hard presenting , particularly upfield, and who does that leave down forward? To top it off he only plays 76% game time? In this game we saw Bayley Fritsch and Jake Melksham as the only targets left in front of goal, covered by Moore and Howe. Easy pickings for Collingwood. And they were off to the races … How many tackles from our forwards in the 50m area? Neal-Bullen, Spargo and Pickett zero! Aren’t these players so called “defensive forwards”? Combine that with Brown at zero for the game, and Fritsch and Melksham only two, and you get an idea of why the ball rebounds out of there so easily which is precisely what Collingwood wanted. Back to Goodwin’s “failure to execute” statement. That not only means kicking goals when we should (and sadly Max has returned to his worst kicking action in front of goal), but it also means the same in general play. Neal-Bullen is rapidly losing his value to the side when he cannot execute simple football skills, thus destroying hard fought forward thrusts, putting up a solitary possession for the final quarter. Melksham returned to his pursuit of cheap out the back kicks instead of getting in front which he did last week and had zero touches in total for the final quarter. The resting rucks again produced zero majors for yet another week. Small wonder they are exhausted in the final stages of the match, when they spend so much time on the ground, even to no effect up front. So you finish up with a forward line which won’t tackle, can’t execute basic kicking and marking skills, and are unable to provide a suitable tall target despite 65 entries into their area. In some sort of positive, the mids completed dominated. Those 65 entries came courtesy of the hard work of Clayton Oliver, Christian Petracca, Angus Brayshaw and Jack Viney upfield. Even Max, despite concrete kicking boots managed 31 touches and 490m gained, a high for the side. Down back Christian Salem seems to have regained his kicking strength and ability to find targets when no-one else can. Ed Langdon was threatened by Collingwood players and fans for his mid-week comments, but produced the appropriate on-field response with 22 touches on the wing and a timely goal as well. But it was all for nothing because the Collingwood one-trick pony was off to the races, and outlasted the Demons favourite who could only manage three goals in the second half of football. What is now needed is for a scratching of a few of those Dee frontrunners who look more like draught horses, with some younger yearlings who could provide no worse output than is currently being provided. And perhaps they might just enable the side to get their noses in front when it matters rather than stumbling at the finish line. MELBOURNE 6.2.38 10.7.67 11.11.77 13.11.89 COLLINGWOOD 5.0.30 8.2.50 11.4.70 15.6.96 GOALS MELBOURNE Brown Fritsch 2 Langdon Melksham Neal-Bullen Petracca Pickett Salem Spargo Sparrow Viney COLLINGWOOD Elliott Johnson 4 Mihocek 2 Cox J.Daicos De Goey Lipinsky McCreery BEST MELBOURNE Petracca Oliver Brayshaw Gawn Jordon Viney COLLINGWOOD Elliott Johnson N Daicos De Goey Crisp Maynard INJURIES MELBOURNE Nil COLLINGWOOD Hoskin-Elliott (hip) REPORTS MELBOURNE Nil COLLINGWOOD Nil SUBSTITUTES MELBOURNE James Harmes (unused) COLLINGWOOD Trent Bianco (replaced Will Hoskin-Elliott in the third quarter) UMPIRES Andrew Stephens Robert Findlay Simon Meredith CROWD 70,956 at the MCG

Clayton is hard to beat … 220. Clayton Oliver 168. Christian Petracca 135. Angus Brayshaw 128. Jack Viney 103. Max Gawn 75. Steven May 71. Ed Langdon 52. James Jordon 40. Kysaiah Pickett 32. Jake Lever 31. Luke Jackson 29. Bayley Fritsch 26. James Harmes 22. Jake Bowey Michael Hibberd Harry Petty Tom Sparrow 18. Ben Brown 11. Alex Neal-Bullen 8. Tom McDonald Sam Weideman 5. Jayden Hunt Charlie Spargo 4. Christian Salem 3. Joel Smith

Who comes in and who goes out?

D’oh

Please cast your votes 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 …

Pies have kicked 11 goals straight in their last two quarters against Melbourne.

Reckon we’ll be outnumbered tonight but thanks for the $$$$

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/05/josh-jenkins-full-statement-on-the-adelaide-crows-2018-pre-season-camp/

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