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Nathan Schmook: "What is submitted is the forceful contact to the head was caused by circumstances outside the control of Jack Viney." Nathan Schmook: "How could he reasonably foresee that?" DG

Nathan Schmook: DG "Why would one come to that finding when the result was a broken jaw?" We hired Columbo!!!

Nathan Schmook: DG: "This was a bracing action done to protect himself from what he was trying to avoid - injury of the kind that he feared would cause him much worse than what occurred." Nathan Schmook: Grace QC notes the Tribunal came down with a medium impact finding….

Comment From James Has Tom Lynch came out and said anything about this? Nathan Schmook: He's only just come out of hospital having two breaks repaired... Stop showing your bias Nathan.

Comment From Eric Entirely reasonable to go over the evidence submitted on Tuesday night to a new panel of jurors. Illustrating exactly why the verdict was unreasonable. Going by what Grace is saying, though, perhaps he should've been Viney's counsel on Tuesday night. Comment From Wayno Essentially they are saying it wasnt a bump it was just one player protecting himself from impact Nathan Schmook: That's the Melbourne case, Wayno

Nathan Schmook: We're seeing the vision in normal time now.

Some comments from the peanut gallery. Comment From Shafty I'd say the finding was unreasonable in that the tribunal misinterpreted what a bump actually is. Comment From Shetski Are they trying to argue it was unreasonable to judge it as a bump? Comment From kiel maybe they have to prove it wasn't even a bump to consider the decision unfair Comment From Ash I guess by arguing that it shouldn't have been classified a bump then they're headed towards proving it wasn't fair? Comment From Matt They are aren't they? They are basically stating that the conclusion the Tribunal came to was incorrect in determining it as a bump.

Nathan Schmook: I'd suggest what they're trying to establish is the Tribunal was wrong in deeming this a bump, for the purposes of the rough conduct (high bumps) rule. But the Tribunal had the option to find that on Tues night….

Comment From Glenn In the appeal, don't they have to prove the original tribunal came to an unreasonable verdict with the evidence put forth? This seems like a retrial? Nathan Schmook: Spot on, Glenn. So far they seem to be going over the Tuesday night case. They will need t prove the Tribunal was unreasonable in its decision based on the rules. I think Nathan works for the AFL. Mwwwwwuuuuhahahahahahaha.

Nathan Schmook: "And this, the Tribunal found, was a bump." Grace QC

Nathan Schmook: "Viney is not looking at him, he's turning away from from him … he's looking at the ball and realising he can't get the ball." Grace QC Nathan Schmook: "Lynch and Georgiou cannon into him. Nothing cold be clearer from that vision." DG

Nathan Schmook: It is essentially unfair...

Nathan Schmook: Grace is explaining how the slow motion footage harms Viney's case.

Comment From FAKE Brad Green who is on the Jury? Nathan Schmook: The Appeals Board consists of Brian Collis, Michael Green and Peter O'Callaghan (chairman)

Nathan Schmook: Grace says it was a totally unrealistic expectation for Viney to spin or push out of the way.

Nathan Schmook: Grace is demonstrating with the vision how Viney braced and Lynch "cannoned" into him.

Nathan Schmook: "He's widened his stance in order to brace himself." DG

Nathan Schmook: "DG: "Viney is putting his right foot in what appears to be some sort of braking action." Nathan Schmook: "The ball is not in possession of any player, but it's close to Lynch gaining possession." DG

Nathan Schmook: Vision now shows Viney braking, while Georgiou and Lynch continue at full speed

Nathan Schmook: "In this position the ball is equal distance between the two groups of players." Grace QC

Nathan Schmook: Vision is being frozen showing Viney closest to the ball in dispute...

Comment From FreeVineyFan Who is representing the Demons? Nathan Schmook: David Grace QC Nathan Schmook: We're going through the vision now, frame by frame, with David Grace QC explaining the Demons' POV

Nathan Schmook: Melbourne legal counsel disputing how it is determined Viney bumped rather than braced.

Nathan Schmook: Jeff Gleeson remains AFL Legal Counsel tonight Comment From dees fan #freeviney nathan, what time approx will the case be finished? Nathan Schmook: No way to know. It could drag with QC v QC Nathan Schmook: It is being claimed (by Melbourne) the new rough conduct (high bumps) rule is being applied incorrectly in 2014

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