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THE TEAMS RICHMOND Backs Steven Morris Alex Rance Troy Chaplin Half backs Chris Newman Brandon Ellis Bachar Houli Centreline Shaun Grigg Trent Cotchin Daniel Jackson Half forwards Brett Deledio Shane Edwards Jake King Forwards Luke McGuane Jack Riewoldt Dustin Martin Followers Orren Stephenson Nathan Foley Nick Vlastuin Interchange (from) Matthew Arnot Jake Batchelor Matthew Dea Aaron Edwards Robin Nahas Tyrone Vickery Matthew White In Matthew Arnot Trent Cotchin Matthew Dea Aaron Edwards Tyrone Vickery Matthew White Out Chris Knights (knee) Ivan Maric (ankle) Shane Tuck (shoulder) MELBOURNE Backs Neville Jetta James Frawley Dean Terlich Half backs Dan Nicholson James Sellar Colin Garland Centreline Jack Trengove Jordie McKenzie Michael Evans Half forwards Luke Tapscott LyndenDunn Jeremy Howe Followers Max Gawn Chris Dawes Jimmy Toumpas Followers Mark Jamar Matt Jones Nathan Jones Interchange (from) Rohan Bail Aaron Davey Troy Davis Dean Kent James Magner Jake Spencer James Strauss In Troy Davis Mark Jamar Neville Jetta James Magner Jimmy Toumpas Jack Trengove Out Shannon Byrnes (wrist) Colin Sylvia (suspension) Jack Viney (toe)

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I think the solution we have implemented to minimize the server crashes may be causing this. I read somewhere that if I set the flood control (amount of time set between posting and then being able to post again) to a longer time it will not allow the double posts. I guess that didn't work.

Thanks George. Last night our server passed the first test of coping with the post match load so a big thank you to all those who donated to make this happen. I also want to thank everyone for being patient with us through all the outages and down time. Hopefully going forward we won't experience those same issues.

RAIN MEN by Whispering Jack A young and inexperienced Casey combination breathed life back into their club's season with a gutsy 16-point win over the Northern Bullants at a rain drenched Visy Park on Saturday. The Scorpions who squandered a big half time lead to lose narrowly last week at the hands of the Werribee Tigers looked like repeating the effort again this week after seeing a 32-point lead just before the main break dwindle down to a single goal just before the final break. However, the team dug deep in the final term despite the fact that several were hurt during the game and had spent time in the hands of the trainers. The loss of Max Gawn to AFL emergency duty combined with the fact that a couple of ruckmen are on the injured list had left them so desperately short of ruckmen that defender Troy Davis had to be co-opted for second ruck duty giving away 10cm when contesting against Cameron Wood. He was helping out first gamer in 202cm beanpole Jake Thomas after losing Jack Fitzpatrick to injury just on quarter time but it was tough going against seasoned big man Cameron Wood who had a birthday party with a near record number of hit outs that helped drive the Blues during their four goal to one comeback in the third quarter. The highlight of the game was Tim Smith's five goal haul in the first half, a time when conditions at the ground were at their worst. He marked strongly and kicked straight and was the difference between the sides in the opening two stanzas. After half time he was well covered by the Blues' defence but by then the damage had almost been done. The Scorpions offset their ruck disadvantage with strength in their midfield. Jimmy Toumpas, Jordie McKenzie, Viv Mitchie and Aidan Riley all worked their butts off throughout the game and the centre line of Sam Blease, Michael Evans and Dom Barry gave great drive into the forward line all day. These players should be putting pressure on the midfielders at Melbourne as they all had a much harder edge in the difficult conditions. Although things improved weather wise as the afternoon went on the soggy ball made it difficult to play cohesive football and the game came to a virtual standstill in the final quarter when scoring was painfully difficult. The hero was youngster Jayden Hunt who slipped behind a contest near goals and kicked truly to make the game safe. Hunt has great pace and could become a real prospect as he matures. Next week the Scorpions take on Coburg at Mantello Oval on Saturday afternoon before enjoying the first bye of the year the following week. 2014 Peter Jackson VFL Casey Scorpions 3.2.20 8.5.53 9.9.63 10.11.71 Northern Bullants 2.1.13 4.3.27 8.7.55 8.7.55 Goals Casey Scorpions Smith 5 Tapscott 2 Hunt Mitchie Rosier Northern Bullants Bransgrove Wilson 2 Byrne Cattapan Temay Wood Best Casey Scorpions Blease Smith McKenzie Michie Riley Barry Northern Bullants Cachia Graham McInnes Bransgrove Anthony Tardio Possessions McKenzie 32 Blease 30 Riley 27 Michie 23 Nicholson 23 Evans 21 Tapscott 20 Toumpas 20 Rosier 15 Casey's Development League team copped a fair towelling from the Northern Blues going down by 58 points. Siren has just sounded and the main game's on in half an hour. 2014 AFL Victoria Development League Casey Scorpions 0.2.2 2.3,15 2.5.17 4.6.30 Northern Blues 4.6.30 6.11.47 7.12.54 12.16.88 Goals Casey Scorpions Anderson Lang Scott Shiels Northern Bullants Walton 3 Dorman 2 Couch Emley McCann Murray Sutton Toman Watson Best Casey Scorpions Drew Rutherford Lang Shiels Thwaites Corrigan Northern Bullants McCann Walton Watson Dirago Taglieri Johnston

A young and inexperienced Casey combination breathed life back into their club's season with a gutsy 16-point win over the Northern Bullants at a rain drenched Visy Park on Saturday. The Scorpions who squandered a big half time lead to lose narrowly last week at the hands of the Werribee Tigers looked like repeating the effort again this week after seeing a 32-point lead just before the main break dwindle down to a single goal just before the final break. However, the team dug deep in the final term despite the fact that several were hurt during the game and had spent time in the hands of the trainers. The loss of Max Gawn to AFL emergency duty combined with the fact that a couple of ruckmen are on the injured list had left them so desperately short of ruckmen that defender Troy Davis had to be co-opted for second ruck duty giving away 10cm when contesting against Cameron Wood. He was helping out first gamer in 202cm beanpole Jake Thomas after losing Jack Fitzpatrick to injury just on quarter time but it was tough going against seasoned big man Cameron Wood who had a birthday party with a near record number of hit outs that helped drive the Blues during their four goal to one comeback in the third quarter. The highlight of the game was Tim Smith's five goal haul in the first half, a time when conditions at the ground were at their worst. He marked strongly and kicked straight and was the difference between the sides in the opening two stanzas. After half time he was well covered by the Blues' defence but by then the damage had almost been done. The Scorpions offset their ruck disadvantage with strength in their midfield. Jimmy Toumpas, Jordie McKenzie, Viv Mitchie and Aidan Riley all worked their butts off throughout the game and the centre line of Sam Blease, Michael Evans and Dom Barry gave great drive into the forward line all day. These players should be putting pressure on the midfielders at Melbourne as they all had a much harder edge in the difficult conditions. Although things improved weather wise as the afternoon went on the soggy ball made it difficult to play cohesive football and the game came to a virtual standstill in the final quarter when scoring was painfully difficult. The hero was youngster Jayden Hunt who slipped behind a contest near goals and kicked truly to make the game safe. Hunt has great pace and could become a real prospect as he matures. Next week the Scorpions take on Coburg at Mantello Oval on Saturday afternoon before enjoying the first bye of the year the following week. 2014 Peter Jackson VFL Casey Scorpions 3.2.20 8.5.53 9.9.63 10.11.71 Northern Bullants 2.1.13 4.3.27 8.7.55 8.7.55 Goals Casey Scorpions Smith 5 Tapscott 2 Hunt Mitchie Rosier Northern Bullants Bransgrove Wilson 2 Byrne Cattapan Temay Wood Best Casey Scorpions Blease Smith McKenzie Michie Riley Barry Northern Bullants Cachia Graham McInnes Bransgrove Anthony Tardio Statistics: Dom Barry 14 disposals 7 kicks 7 handballs 2 marks 8 tackles 74 Dream Team Points Sam Blease 29 disposals 25 kicks 4 handballs 5 marks 3 tackles 110 Dream Team Points Michael Evans 24 disposals 13 kicks 11 handballs 2 marks 13 tackles 1 hit out 117 Dream Team Points Jack Fitzpatrick 2 disposals 1 kick 1 handball 1 tackle 11 hit outs 21 Dream Team Points [injured] Alexis Georgiou 10 disposals 6 kicks 4 handballs 4 tackles 42 Dream Team Points Jayden Hunt 1 goal 1 behind 14 disposals 7 kicks 7 handballs 1 mark 44 Dream Team Points Jordie McKenzie 1 behind 30 disposals 18 kicks 12 handballs 2 marks 8 tackles 110 Dream Team Points Viv Michie 1 goal 1 behind disposals 16 kicks 7 handballs 7 marks 3 tackles 1 hit out 104 Dream Team Points Dan Nicholson 22 disposals 11 kicks 11 handballs 6 marks 4 tackles 91 Dream Team Points Aidan Riley 28 disposals 6 kicks 22 handballs 1 mark 11 tackles Dream 102 Team Points James Strauss 1 behind 10 disposals 7 kicks 3 handballs 1 marks 3 tackles 43 Dream Team Points Luke Tapscott 2 goals 20 disposals 18 kicks 2 handballs 3 tackles 82 Dream Team Points Jimmy Toumpas 21 disposals 12 kicks 9 handballs 1 mark 15 tackles 2 hit outs 118 Dream Team Points Casey's Development League team copped a fair towelling from the Northern Blues going down by 58 points. 2014 AFL Victoria Development League Casey Scorpions 0.2.2 2.3,15 2.5.17 4.6.30 Northern Blues 4.6.30 6.11.47 7.12.54 12.16.88 Goals Casey Scorpions Anderson Lang Scott Shiels Northern Bullants Walton 3 Dorman 2 Couch Emley McCann Murray Sutton Toman Watson Best Casey Scorpions Drew Rutherford Lang Shiels Thwaites Corrigan Northern Bullants McCann Walton Watson Dirago Taglieri Johnston Casey holds on for victory over Blues

The 2014 Demons have just let another winnable game slip by, and their chances of showing some real outcome from the work put in just bit the dust. Again! Like the St.Kilda game and maybe the game against Gold Coast, this was one which was 100% within reach of a positive result. Just that little more was needed. It didn't take too much to work out that it would come down to the wire, even in the first quarter. Yet, once again we were let down by the passengers in the side, and the half-hearted efforts again from the usual offenders. Not that these failures were in the last ten minutes of the game, the opportunities to do something which would change the result happened in all the previous quarters. And once again, do these people REALLY think the fans don't notice, when they are on full public display, and in full view of the circumstances? There will have been much written about Byrnes on the Demonland site yet again, but how he gets a game week in and out is simply beyond comprehension. Especially, when slightly flawed, unwilling or underdone players have to put in the hard yards at Casey before they qualify for a recall. We dare not speak of the umpires..they didn't affect the overall result. But the sheer lack of control and willingness to pay free kicks when they were blatently obvious was a real blight on the game. Not a single holding the ball (incorrect disposal) call was made all night. Even the Jack Watts call was called a throw. And don't get me started about how Dean Terlich could be taken from the ground with concussion, having spent five minutes lying prostrate on the ground, and was not awarded a whistle in his favour. It is even more reprehensible that these flannelled fools continued on, while a player was in serious trouble, and the ball was not in play! It's about time the umpire's director stopped assuming that NOT making a call is a good thing. It is exactly why we see rolling mauls in our game, and a good reason why people will stop coming. A visitor to the game would have been mistaken for thinking they had arrived at the wrong stadium, as Storm were playing just across the road at the same time. The positives: There certainly were some. Mark Jamar was simply magnificent against the bigger bodied Will Minson. He got no assistance from the umpires ( sorry had to mention them again) as Minson infringed at every centre bounce, either across the line or jumping into Mark. Without him the situation would have been a lot worse, considering the higher quality mid-field that the Dogs had available. Dom Tyson was another standout, and showed everyone who thought recruiting him to be a risky option as totally wrong. With only 30 games under his belt, he will be a serious long-term asset to the team. Chris Dawes once again showed the value of the big body up forward. Not just for his marking capabilities, but his ability to generate an opportunity because he attacks the ball when it is in his area. Sadly others could learn from this approach, as standing around the edges of packs hoping someone else can do the hard yards is not a winning football formula. Daniel Cross was another who put in a magnificent performance against his old side. And he was ably assisted by the young and now famous Jack Viney. Again, we are developing a good solid base of capable mids, and taking the pressure off Nathan Jones. Yes we fluffed another chance. With just a LITTLE more effort from some ( just some), the team could have doubled its number of wins for the season, and indeed that of the 2013 season! Thats what is so frustrating for the fans in the Outer. We can see the chances, we can see what is being squandered. The season will not get easier, as we now enter the harder phase both physicall and with the draw. There will be less to build on, so we should have built early. Melbourne 2.2.14 5.5.35 10.6.66{b] 12.11.83 Western Bulldogs 3.2.20 5.7.37 9.7.61 15.9.99 Goals Melbourne Frawley Kennedy-Harris Tyson 2 Cross Dawes Jamar Pedersen Salem Vince Western Bulldogs Crameri 4 Williams 3 Liberatore Tutt 2 Cooney Giansiracusa Griffen Minson. Best Melbourne Cross, Tyson, Vince, N.Jones, McDonald, Viney, Western Bulldogs Liberatore Griffen Crameri Cooney Williams Dahlhaus Wood Johannissen Changes Melbourne Nil Western Bulldogs Nil Injuries Melbourne Frawley (right thigh), Terlich (concussion) Western Bulldogs Dickson (left shoulder), Williams (right calf) Reports Melbourne Nil Western Bulldogs Nil Umpires Fleer Stevic Stevens Attendance 36,326 at the MCG.

Nathan Jones still holds a comfortable lead after eight rounds but Dom Tyson is rising fast: 84. Nathan Jones 69. Dom Tyson 43. Lynden Dunn 37. Daniel Cross 31. Jack Viney 27. Chris Dawes 26. Matt Jones Bernie Vince 25. James Frawley 23. Tom McDonald 17. Jack Watts 14. Jeremy Howe 12. Mark Jamar 11. Rohan Bail Jack Grimes Cam Pedersen 8. Jay Kennedy-Harris 6. Alexis Georgiou Jimmy Toumpas 4. Dean Terlich 3. Jack Trengove 2. Shannon Byrnes Neville Jetta Jake Spencer

ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST by George on the Outer The 2014 Demons have just let another winnable game slip by, and their chances of showing some real outcome from the work put in just bit the dust. Again! Like the St.Kilda game and maybe the game against Gold Coast, this was one which was 100% within reach of a positive result. Just that little more was needed. It didn't take too much to work out that it would come down to the wire, even in the first quarter. Yet, once again we were let down by the passengers in the side, and the half-hearted efforts again from the usual offenders. Not that these failures were in the last ten minutes of the game, the opportunities to do something which would change the result happened in all the previous quarters. And once again, do these people REALLY think the fans don't notice, when they are on full public display, and in full view of the circumstances? There will have been much written about Byrnes on the Demonland site yet again, but how he gets a game week in and out is simply beyond comprehension. Especially, when slightly flawed, unwilling or underdone players have to put in the hard yards at Casey before they qualify for a recall. We dare not speak of the umpires..they didn't affect the overall result. But the sheer lack of control and willingness to pay free kicks when they were blatently obvious was a real blight on the game. Not a single holding the ball (incorrect disposal) call was made all night. Even the Jack Watts call was called a throw. And don't get me started about how Dean Terlich could be taken from the ground with concussion, having spent five minutes lying prostrate on the ground, and was not awarded a whistle in his favour. It is even more reprehensible that these flannelled fools continued on, while a player was in serious trouble, and the ball was not in play! It's about time the umpire's director stopped assuming that NOT making a call is a good thing. It is exactly why we see rolling mauls in our game, and a good reason why people will stop coming. A visitor to the game would have been mistaken for thinking they had arrived at the wrong stadium, as Storm were playing just across the road at the same time. The positives: There certainly were some. Mark Jamar was simply magnificent against the bigger bodied Will Minson. He got no assistance from the umpires ( sorry had to mention them again) as Minson infringed at every centre bounce, either across the line or jumping into Mark. Without him the situation would have been a lot worse, considering the higher quality mid-field that the Dogs had available. Dom Tyson was another standout, and showed everyone who thought recruiting him to be a risky option as totally wrong. With only 30 games under his belt, he will be a serious long-term asset to the team. Chris Dawes once again showed the value of the big body up forward. Not just for his marking capabilities, but his ability to generate an opportunity because he attacks the ball when it is in his area. Sadly others could learn from this approach, as standing around the edges of packs hoping someone else can do the hard yards is not a winning football formula. Daniel Cross was another who put in a magnificent performance against his old side. And he was ably assisted by the young and now famous Jack Viney. Again, we are developing a good solid base of capable mids, and taking the pressure off Nathan Jones. Yes we fluffed another chance. With just a LITTLE more effort from some ( just some), the team could have doubled its number of wins for the season, and indeed that of the 2013 season! Thats what is so frustrating for the fans in the Outer. We can see the chances, we can see what is being squandered. The season will not get easier, as we now enter the harder phase both physicall and with the draw. There will be less to build on, so we should have built early. Melbourne 2.2.14 5.5.35 10.6.66 12.11.83 Western Bulldogs 3.2.20 5.7.37 9.7.61 15.9.99 Goals Melbourne Frawley Kennedy-Harris Tyson 2 Cross Dawes Jamar Pedersen Salem Vince Western Bulldogs Crameri 4 Williams 3 Liberatore Tutt 2 Cooney Giansiracusa Griffen Minson. Best Melbourne Cross, Tyson, Vince, N.Jones, McDonald, Viney, Western Bulldogs Liberatore Griffen Crameri Cooney Williams Dahlhaus Wood Johannissen Changes Melbourne Nil Western Bulldogs Nil Injuries Melbourne Frawley (right thigh), Terlich (concussion) Western Bulldogs Dickson (left shoulder), Williams (right calf) Reports Melbourne Nil Western Bulldogs Nil Umpires Fleer Stevic Stevens Attendance 36,326 at the MCG.

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Any amount that one can afford is great. As I stated earlier in the thread I am not a fan of forcing people to pay to use the site. I don't mind giving paid members some added perks, such as a mobile version of the site and no advertisements, but I don't want to exclude people from talking about the Dees. Times are tough and not everyone can afford to pay and if someone is strapped for cash I would prefer they spent their hard earned on the club on memberships and merchandise.. This is purely voluntary and targeted to those that can afford it in order to assist me in covering the mounting costs to keep the site running. The load that this site gets, particularly in peak times like post match, due to it's popularity is immense and in order to keep the site from crashing we have had to pay for better hosting services, which include increased specs and tech support and the costs were starting to mount. I can't say this enough but thank you again to all those who have pitched in and thanks to those who decide to do it in the future.

Thank you to all the new subscribers and a big thank you to those who have subscribed already and re-donated.

If Ling is to be in contention then he needs to do an apprenticeship.

The response has been great. Thank you to all.

BBO I like your stuff but could we have one thread not hijacked by you. I don't want to scare anyone away. Maple your post was collateral damage.

You donate enough. #qualitynotquantity

I like to blame all the problems in my life on he who must not be named.

We also lost the match.

The whole Jack Viney taking on the AFL and Tribunal and winning reminds of the David and Goliath story except that Viney is Goliath and he wins.

You read the thread correctly. When I created the thread yesterday I cut and pasted from an earlier thread from last year. I changed the amounts and then I got distracted and closed the browser window before I hit post and had to redo the thread and then when I cut and pasted again I forgot to change the amounts from last year. I apologise for the confusion and that is why I offered the refund. Cheers and Go Dees.

Hats don't grow on trees you know.

It's the right thing for me to do. It was my error.

I leave offerings for Jack every night to keep my family safe from harm.

The prices went up at the beginning of the season. We had a sale where the subscriptions for 2014 were at 2013 prices. I cut and pasted the prices from last years thread and I did not change the prices. I apologise. If you would like to PM me your PayPal account name I would be happy to refund you. Let me know.

You can pay via credit card. Just follow the prompts through to PayPal and when it gets to the PayPal screen it gives you the option of signing in to PayPal (if you have an account) or paying via credit card. You do not need a PayPal account to donate. It is facilitated through PayPal but you don't need an account.