No I don't really get your pattern . . .

Armstrong is the only one of the 3 I would say isn't a real tough, in the clinches player.

Thompson is essentially an in an under ball winning midfielder and I can't remember (off the top of my head) a soft ruckman winning a premiership as the #1 ruckman.

I think you need to give both Jolly and Thompson credit where it's due

Nah, didn't put it very well, did I.

What I am saying is, if you put a reasonably skilled player in a hard group (midfield, onballer, forwards) they will have a much better chance of displaying their skills. Maybe even help their 'hardness'.

As for Jolly, 'not hard' doesn't mean 'soft'. Any decent tap ruckman could have filled Jolly's shoes 2 years ago - don't forget the Swan went for Everet straight after winning the flag.

I'll tell you why - he let Chance Bateman run wild, missed his targets and gave away several stupid free kicks by falling onto the back of his opponent. The only positive is that he's moving freely and he needs to go back to Sandy to learn some defensive skills.

No way he, or any of our midfield could keep up with Bateman - they aint quick enuf.

I'll tell you why - he let Chance Bateman run wild, missed his targets and gave away several stupid free kicks by falling onto the back of his opponent. The only positive is that he's moving freely and he needs to go back to Sandy to learn some defensive skills.

If Moloney was so bad against the Hawks that he had then be dropped then I'd love to know what the rest of the team did so well.

Nah, didn't put it very well, did I.

What I am saying is, if you put a reasonably skilled player in a hard group (midfield, onballer, forwards) they will have a much better chance of displaying their skills. Maybe even help their 'hardness'.

As for Jolly, 'not hard' doesn't mean 'soft'. Any decent tap ruckman could have filled Jolly's shoes 2 years ago - don't forget the Swan went for Everet straight after winning the flag.

They recruited Everitt because a) he's one of the best tap ruckman I've seen play and B) Jason Ball retired

Even with Everitt in the side Jolly was always going to be the number 1 ruckman. Not saying he's an Ottens or Cox but he's better than most

and for the record - Chance Bateman looks a lot quicker than what he actually is

Hey guys. Just wanted to let you know that the reason Moloney isnt playing this week is due to a badly corked thigh NOT because of his performance. there is no source, but my bro spoke to cam bruce yesterday so thats how i know.

why's he lining up for Sandy then?

Hey guys. Just wanted to let you know that the reason Moloney isnt playing this week is due to a badly corked thigh NOT because of his performance. there is no source, but my bro spoke to cam bruce yesterday so thats how i know.

i think ya bro is pulling ya winky.. like EB said he lining up for sandy

i think ya bro is pulling ya winky.. like EB said he lining up for sandy

if he is lining up for sandy i will be very surprised if he plays half the game or even playing at all. It is the truth, beamer has a corkie.

if he is lining up for sandy i will be very surprised if he plays half the game or even playing at all. It is the truth, beamer has a corkie.

Definitely has a corkie and won't be playing for Sandy on Sunday.

Jolly is/was no great shakes. But he went to a team of HARD players, many skilled as well.

Same for Thompson. He's a good, maybe hard player, but he is part of a HARD midfield - gets a chance to show his skills.

Similarly Armstrong. A skilled flanker, but not good enuf for MFC top 35 or so, but good enuf for Eagles top 25. Why? Because he is surrounded by HARD players.

Get the pattern? - with a core of HARD (and skilled) players, skilled players have a role to play.

WE NEED HARD & SKILLED PLAYERS.

we didnt need another small forward because of davey and vardy at the time

Definitely has a corkie and won't be playing for Sandy on Sunday.

Well there you have it.

I knew he must have injured himself if he's missing the game on Saturday. No way in hell would he have been dropped, slow midfield or not.

Thank god it's only a corkie and not a flare-up of the groin!!!