What is it with Melbourne supporters, Judd + player X plus pick 4 or a young ruckman and we trade a player + pick whatever for him, to hell with that the Dees should play hardball with Judd if he wants to come to us, WCE are not PA and will not get nothing for him in the PSD pick 4 is better than pick 14 so they will deal, but for gods sake you do not have to offer the world at the start. Do you think the Pies will give the world for him I don't think so and if they did it is at their peril, so lets see what happens before you give the world away.

What is it with Melbourne supporters, Judd + player X plus pick 4 or a young ruckman and we trade a player + pick whatever for him, to hell with that the Dees should play hardball with Judd if he wants to come to us, WCE are not PA and will not get nothing for him in the PSD pick 4 is better than pick 14 so they will deal, but for gods sake you do not have to offer the world at the start. Do you think the Pies will give the world for him I don't think so and if they did it is at their peril, so lets see what happens before you give the world away.

It is about showing some respect for the club you are dealing with, something that Collingwood have not been good at in the past.

I think the key to getting this thing done for Collingwood would be to see what expectations WC have early and work from there, no point putting in ambit deal after deal.

It is about showing some respect for the club you are dealing with, something that Collingwood have not been good at in the past.

I think the key to getting this thing done for Collingwood would be to see what expectations WC have early and work from there, no point putting in ambit deal after deal.

yes respect is one thing, but to all clubs this is a business and treated as such and if they can screw you they will, all I am saying what is it with some supporters of our club that we give up pick 4+ TJ or CS etc we don't have to and nor we should at the start.

Yes we need to be carefull in giving up to much. A number of players have moved on now and we have 4 or 5 spots to fill in even if we get Judd. If we give up to much we will fill them with crap draft picks - a lottery.

I think pick 4 plus another first rounder is OK for Judd.

We will need to trade for another first rounder but that's ok.

What is it with Melbourne supporters, Judd + player X plus pick 4 or a young ruckman and we trade a player + pick whatever for him, to hell with that the Dees should play hardball with Judd if he wants to come to us, WCE are not PA and will not get nothing for him in the PSD pick 4 is better than pick 14 so they will deal, but for gods sake you do not have to offer the world at the start. Do you think the Pies will give the world for him I don't think so and if they did it is at their peril, so lets see what happens before you give the world away.

I agree - we can't really afford to give up too much , because what we might win with a player of Judd's ability, we may be robbing Peter to pay Paul - too many eggs in one basket and all the other similar cliches . And there is that history of injury that may shorten his time also.

i cant even imagine judd playing for us. the other team might as well put 2 players on him. west coast had judd, kerr and cousins. we would have judd, mclean and mcdonald. not quite the same

i cant even imagine judd playing for us. the other team might as well put 2 players on him. west coast had judd, kerr and cousins. we would have judd, mclean and mcdonald. not quite the same

and Jonesy.

as much as jonesy has a crack..until he can learn how to kick..im not on his bandwagon. i like petterd more.

Our 1st round for Bruce and your 3rd round?

i cant even imagine judd playing for us. the other team might as well put 2 players on him. west coast had judd, kerr and cousins. we would have judd, mclean and mcdonald. not quite the same

Mclean may just become the best in the AFL next year because he'll never have a tag, and we know he's proven quality.

Judd is good enough to break a tag of two players anyway