lets say that unfortunately Chris decides he doesn't want to play for the Melbourne Footy Club, the next question we should ask ourselves is, what do we do with Pick 4?

Carlton won't part with 1, nor Richmond with 2. The blues have 3, then we have 4.

Lets say if he wants to go to Carlton, but the eagles want two top 5 selections, what would we require for the draft choice? Carlton could get pretty desperate and make us a great offer if it will help them secure Judd. Or what if he wants to go to the Pies, or Essendon, what could we secure from these clubs for our draft choice.

Fevola from Carlton if we were interested perhaps? One of Collingwood's young guns? Even if we don't get Chris, we still maybe able to get some benefit out of this situation.

that is correct.

there will be one or two teams who will gain significantly from attaching themselves to the Judd deal even if Judd doesnt end up coming to them (it is likely to be a 3 or 4 way trade.) if we aren't going to get Judd, then we should be clever and try to gain from the deal anyway. pick 4 will be valuable for any club trying to get Judd!

also, pick 4 is extremely valuable to Port Adelaide and Adelaide (who has pick 10 atm). Both would love to pick up Brad Ebert at pick4, and if we are clever, we could use the fact there is such high demand for that pick and jack up the price for it...its basic economics!

also, pick 4 is extremely valuable to Port Adelaide and Adelaide (who has pick 10 atm).

We could trade to get Scott Thompson back! And then he'd say he'd want to go back home!

But i do agree with the topic of this thread, pick 4 can get us right in amongst the Judd trade even if we don't get him, and it could really be benificial to us.

It's good in principle but Carlton have nothing that we need. Fevola is a great big sook who I don't want at the club and apart from that their list is rubbish (they won't part with Stevens, Murphy etc.)

I actually think that if we don't land Judd then we should hang on to Pick 4 and use all our picks below this to either improve our draft standing or to land a few players who will improve our list.

that is correct.

there will be one or two teams who will gain significantly from attaching themselves to the Judd deal even if Judd doesnt end up coming to them (it is likely to be a 3 or 4 way trade.) if we aren't going to get Judd, then we should be clever and try to gain from the deal anyway. pick 4 will be valuable for any club trying to get Judd!

also, pick 4 is extremely valuable to Port Adelaide and Adelaide (who has pick 10 atm). Both would love to pick up Brad Ebert at pick4, and if we are clever, we could use the fact there is such high demand for that pick and jack up the price for it...its basic economics!

also Morton and Palmer are around 4th pick so the west will want it as well