8 hours ago, jnrmac said:

 

I wasn't comparing DJ to Weideman. Spargo is a simlar size to DJ if you need it spelled out. Spargo has impacted in his first year DJ looks nowhere near it and coming to the end of his first contract.

Its not that hard.

It’s not hard, it’s just irrelevant. All players develop at different rates.

Surely Jetta as a prime example would indicate that not performing at a high level in your first few seasons is not a definite indicator of future competency.

21 hours ago, poita said:

Be honest re Johnstone (and the same applies for King & Filipovic as well) - if he wasn't on our list already, there is nobody on the planet who would be advocating that he be recruited based on his performances over the past two years. If he is not good enough to be drafted in November, why would you offer him a new contract? Time to cut our losses and give someone else a go.

Sorry to side track but regarding the other 2 you spoke of, are they both rucks and if so why 2 rucks? How long have we had them and how old are they? Tx in advance.

3 hours ago, Mach5 said:

It’s not hard, it’s just irrelevant. All players develop at different rates.

Surely Jetta as a prime example would indicate that not performing at a high level in your first few seasons is not a definite indicator of future competency.

I watched jetta pretty closely when he was a rookie. He definitely had something. I haven't seen much of DJ but nothing I have seen indicates there is a future for him. CLearly he could improve dramatically but you need to see something. 

The fact he has been on a list for 2 years doesn't automatically mean we have to persevere with him. Otherwise our list would be clogged with players just hoping they would improve to AFL standard.

What have you seen from DJ that indicates there is a future for him? That's the discussion really.

1 hour ago, Wollongong Demon said:

Sorry to side track but regarding the other 2 you spoke of, are they both rucks and if so why 2 rucks? How long have we had them and how old are they? Tx in advance.

King (21) is in his 3rd year & Flip (20) his 2nd, both ruckmen. King is a competative player and has shown the odd ability to drift forward and take a mark/kick a goal, but barely gets involved around the ground. Flip has great athleticism and mobility and can get to contests, but almost never impacts them. Both regularly get smashed in the hit out department also.

With Angus Bradtke to come in as a Category B rookie and us being strongly linked to Preuss, the likelihood of either of these young ruckmen being required is slim to none I would think.

4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

I watched jetta pretty closely when he was a rookie. He definitely had something. I haven't seen much of DJ but nothing I have seen indicates there is a future for him. CLearly he could improve dramatically but you need to see something. 

The fact he has been on a list for 2 years doesn't automatically mean we have to persevere with him. Otherwise our list would be clogged with players just hoping they would improve to AFL standard.

What have you seen from DJ that indicates there is a future for him? That's the discussion really.

Dion has shown (since being moved to defence) an ability to lock down on an opponent as well as run off them and use the ball well off either side. He's also a ferocious tackler. His aerial game and positioning is probably still a work in progress from what I've seen.

Josh Green tomorrow whose been in good form should be a good test for Dion.

Tx for the above but I couldnt understand why we have 2 rucks on the uplist. Especally with Tmac and SW doing backup of late. Seemed overkill to me. But then again I thought Weids was never going to make it in the senior side.

37 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

Dion has shown (since being moved to defence) an ability to lock down on an opponent as well as run off them and use the ball well off either side. He's also a ferocious tackler. His aerial game and positioning is probably still a work in progress from what I've seen.

Josh Green tomorrow whose been in good form should be a good test for Dion.

Most of my experience with Dion is his junior football so clearly out of date. The few times I have seen him at Casey have been OK but nothing stand out. Agree that Green should be a reasonable test.