Thankyou for a proper response.

Granted, they were all trades, but the majority of these sort of cases are ‘unders’ for the club giving the player up.

Free agency effectively rules out an uncontracted player going to a club other than their club of choice and contracted players generally get traded to the club of their choice. Prior to the last few years you have players like Luke Ball (ND pick 30) and Kurt Tippett (PSD pick 8) being overlooked by quite a number of teams to get to where they want to go.

Having written the above I'm now thinking we were relying on another trade going through (Trengove) that would have given us a late 2nd rounder to trade for Frost+40/53. (As you pointed out, they weren't using 40 or 53 so as long as they got something earlier than 40 they would have done the trade).

I don't really see how my earlier responses were improper...

Players usually get to where they want to go - but not in the drafts, the strikerate of players getting to where they want to go takes a dive in the drafts because they can veto any trade that they don't like the destination of. That is why clubs take 'under' deals to jettison players to where they prefer to go - because the player could simply say "Nah, staying on my contract" or "nah, I am going to the draft."

Some former rookie pick, ND40 and ND53 does not sound like much for ND23, and many on here said as much at the time of the trade. It may not end up being much. A 'better deal' might not have landed as many promising additions to the list, or meant the removal of a contracted player who didn't want to keep playing football as much as one would like (Evans refused a Rookie List spot)...

Debating the actual deal is tough enough without believing we left a better deal on the hypothetical table...

pretty big INS

Viv Michie

Dom Tyson

Bernie Vince

Daniel Cross

Aidan Riley

Christian Salem

Jay Kennedy-Harris

James Harmes

Max King

Alex Georgiou

Sam Frost

Jeff Garlett

Heritier Lumumba

Ben Newton

Angus Brayshaw

Alex Neal-Bullen

Oscar McDonald

Christian Petracca

Billy Stretch

Aaron Vandenberg

Mitchell White

Tyson, Salem, Brayshaw, Petracca - MASSIVE in's there. That is 4 quality, high end talent.

Vince and Lumumba add some class and experience to our list.

Then there is ANB, JKH, Stretch, Newton and Michie, all look very capable, there could be a couple of gems in there.

Topped off with some promising young KP backman, Frost, McDonald - and to a lesser extent White.

We couldn't of asked for a better couple of years at the draft table. Let's just hope these players live up to their potential.