Even if the players are determined to give it their best regardless of their opinion of neelds capabilities, if the game plan is too complicated or not standing up to match conditions then the team will continue to be beaten badly , this exasberating the situation with the players. the team has accelerated backwards at an alarming rate from 2011. this is NOT just because the players arent trying. what neeld is attempting to do is not working.

Heard a rumour last year that Frawley regretted signing that 4 year deal back in 2010. He thought by this time around we would be pushing for finals and we would have built a talented list. Apparently last year just did it for him.. the fact that we are way off finals has been a major frustration for him. Expect him to walk soon as his contract is up.

Mother of God - tell me this isn't so.

this is NOt about the players. i really hope the club realise this. 45 blokes dont suddenly forget how to play footy. some of them wouldnt even get a game in their old TAC teams at the moment. If it looks like sh*t, smells like sh*t then it most probaly is. A change needs to be made or the club will lose all the talent on the list. Why the F&^%K would Hogan toumpas and viney want to stick around for another 18mths of this?!

Frawley's gone as soon as his contract is up & I don't blame him, we've been rubbish the entire time he's been at the club.

Well I do blame him. I blame him for not playing at his best regardless of the state of the team

Being dissatisfied with the coach or FD is not an excuse to play poorly for an AA player

Roos and Pert when they played for Fitzroy towards the end were always in the best players despite their team getting thumped every week on and off the field.

A player may not be responsible for his team mates' attitude but he certainly is responsible for his own