With Stef Martin coming in up forward and back up ruck again you'd think think it makes sense not to have Sellar forward either. Then with the Tigers mainly having the 3 big forwards and a bunch of crumbers up forward I can't see the need to have Sellar and McDonald both down back.

So I think it's time to see a couple of guys play in the positions that they've been recruited and trained all preseason for.

Vickery is a perfect match up for Sellar, which then free's up Rivers to play on Miller and in turn Garland can play on a small. The overall result of this is hopefully well suited defenders can beat their opponents and help nullify Riewoldt.

At the other end Rance will surely go to Clark which means Stef Martin and McDonald will be minded by Dylan Grimes and Batchelor. I like both of those young Tiger defenders and hope Martin and McDonald can put in strong performances, and if they do we might finally see Watts or Howe get on top of shorter opponents.

Neeld might want to play Sellar and McDonald the other way around or put them both back, but for the development of the individual and the team I'd like to see them play where they've trained. Of course all will count for nothing if we can't match their midfield, but having all but given up the end result I'm looking for some positive development of some talls.

I think we're top heavy at both ends and it's going to hurt us. But it would be nice to see Tom MC have a good game as a forward for us.

thought this could have gone in the Pre game & team selection.

thought this could have gone in the Pre game & team selection.

Maybe, but it's a legitimate thread about the future of 2 potentially important players and the hope that it starts this week and something good comes of it.

thought "the Kreuzer Cup" thread, "lets do something to help Eddie thread", "got rid of Malthouse early" thread and the ridiculously optimistic "BJ Goddard? option?" could all be combined into the Collingwood/Carlton who gives .... thread.

Anyone else want to see a successor of Jared 'too small, too disinterested' Rivers at CHB or a legitimate option at CHF for once as it seems Watts is failing and playing undersized players - Howe, Dunn, Bate, Petterd, Green, Jurrah and co haven't done the trick yet. (Note: Watts still has time as in contributing on a wing and Howe, Petterd, Dunn and Jurrah might still flourish when we finally do find a CHF).