Thanks for that, Jack D. I'm not sure it's quite right, because the two mid-first round compo picks (Scully and Ablett) will be next to each other, while the Davis and Ward picks will be after the Bulldogs and Adelaide first picks.

So, assuming that they all finish in the same position next year, it would be:

1- GWS

2- GC

3- Port

4- Bris

5- Adel

6- Adel (Davis Rnd 1 Compo Pick)

7- Melb

8- Melb (Scully Rnd 1 Compo Pick)

9- Rich

10- Freo

11- Bull

12- Bull (Ward Rnd 1 Compo Pick)

13- Kang

14- Melb (Scully mid-first round Compo Pick)

15- GC (Ablett mid-first round Compo Pick)

Then the other picks will be from pick 25ish onwards.

It's certainly interesting when you look at the value of each of the picks next if we're trading them to GWS for under 17s.

Swap 13 and 14. Kangas would finish in 2nd half i.e. 10/18. Bulldogs would be 9th. Mid point is between 9 and 10.

At least I think

I think you're right.

Dees to pick 13, North to 14.

So, even in a "super" draft, is pick 8 & 13 worth trading for a kid who would likely be pick 1 or 2 if in this draft?

I'd do the trade.

But it's pretty much my limit.

I'm not sure whether MFC ever publicly committed to using its first pick on Viney. If we move away from the Viney situation for a moment, in theory, a club could decide it wanted a particular FS selection but that it didn't believe he was worth more than, say, a third round pick. So, if another club decided to offer a first round pick, the club with the potential FS pick could decline to exercise it leaving the club that was prepared to take him with their first round pick obliged to pick him. In that way, FS picks are more likely to go at "market rate" rather than as a bargain - as occurred for Geelong with Ablett and Scarlett.

Except for clear, stand out, first round standard picks, I think FS selections are fraught with difficulty for clubs. If they exercise the option and the player doesn't make it, it may seem like a waste (no disrespect intended, but Brayden Shaw, son of Tony fits in this category as, in time, may Ayce Cordy); if they don't exercise the option, and the player turns into a star, the club looks foolish (to a lesser degree, Marcus Picken, son of Bill fits in here). I guess that's why you pay for full time recruiting staff.

West Coast have drafted a kid father-son in the last couple of years - Brennan, was it?

Only cost them around a 4th round draft pick.

No interest from other teams, and because he wasn't that highly rated that had to act very luke-warm towards him.

Not sure he was even worth that in the end though.

Mature age, I think.

Ok..im as confused as the next man.

Are the picks actually known..and set in concrete...or are they still rubbery and subject to the whims of Vlad ?

As an aside I thought there were NO priority picks whilst GC and GWS raid and plunder with the likelyhood theyd disappear forever after this.

cheers

The picks aren't known exactly. It depends on factors such as finishing position and whether or not a club decides to activate their pick in a given year.

This is just a guide to show people what the effective worth of the compensation is.

Sorry to persever... The term "opening round picks" . What exactly does that mean ? Is that simply another way of say somewhere in the 1st round. Or does it refer to the opening...i.e earliest picks of the round ? All seems non-speciific to me. Very ambiguous.

Thanks for that, Jack D. I'm not sure it's quite right, because the two mid-first round compo picks (Scully and Ablett) will be next to each other, while the Davis and Ward picks will be after the Bulldogs and Adelaide first picks.

So, assuming that they all finish in the same position next year, it would be:

1- GWS

2- GC

3- Port

4- Bris

5- Adel

6- Adel (Davis Rnd 1 Compo Pick)

7- Melb

8- Melb (Scully Rnd 1 Compo Pick)

9- Rich

10- Freo

11- Bull

12- Bull (Ward Rnd 1 Compo Pick)

13- Kang

14- Melb (Scully mid-first round Compo Pick)

15- GC (Ablett mid-first round Compo Pick)

Then the other picks will be from pick 25ish onwards.

It's certainly interesting when you look at the value of each of the picks next if we're trading them to GWS for under 17s.

My understanding is that priority picks are still in play (see jack darling last year).

So in the event that all of Gold Coast, Port and Brisbane don't win more than 4 games next year (highly unlikely) it will be:

1. GC

2. Port

3. Bris

4. GWS

5. GC

6. Port

7. Bris

8. Adel

and so on...

Anderson foreshadowed that the pre-first round priority picks 'will be looked at closely'. The early priority picks are not currently being handed out due to the compromised drafts, but it seems highly likely that the picks will not be reintroduced.

But it's all just what has been based on intimation.

ah ok, gotta love how they make up the rules as they go

I think they've been wanting to get rid of the priority pick for a little while, especially with all the tanking talk. This is just a more seamless way to do it.

I think they've been wanting to get rid of the priority pick for a little while, especially with all the tanking talk. This is just a more seamless way to do it.

Thtas my read on it too asit happens. It will have served its purpose and now theres far too much going on and its relevancy diminishes. . Most likely recepients over next few seasons are GC and GWS anyways...and theyre alreadybeing spoonfed picks. No advantage.

Tanking and its prizes worked for a while but became an albatross for Vlad. Time to go...PP's.