Standard of Umpiring v Bulldogs

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Arrrghhhh, just watched that stupid Gieschen on whats your decision. CAN NOBODY SEE HOW EARLY THE DOGS PLAYER JUMPS??-the ball is nowhere to be seen. ARE THEY THAT STUPID???? Watching multiple replays confirmed what I initially thought. I have no problem that if the ball was in the area it was a block, however the ball was no where near and the dogs player made an unrealistic attempt and drew a free kick.

GIESCHEN if you cannot see this - You are a FOOL. Time to GO.

GET RID OF GIESCHEN - It will slowly start to improvement to the standard of umpiring.

GET RID OF GIESCHEN - It will slowly start to improvement to the standard of umpiring.

GET RID OF GIESCHEN - It will slowly start to improvement to the standard of umpiring.

GET RID OF GIESCHEN - It will slowly start to improvement to the standard of umpiring.

GET RID OF GIESCHEN - It will slowly start to improvement to the standard of umpiring.

GET RID OF GIESCHEN - THE MAN IS A FOOL

the giesh is a yes man and puppet for vlad, he ain't going nowhere

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Anyone watch the Dawks - Pies game last week?

There was no standard. Just a constant bias toward paying frees to the Pies, that in most cases weren't legitimate, or ignoring those that should have been paid to the Dawks. Many absolute clanging 'holding the ball' decisions that should have been paid against the Pies, that were ignored and went unpaid also. One in particular, where the Pies player was swung around 360 on their HFF, brought to the ground, dropped the ball momentarily, picked it up again just after the tackle, and went on to short pass to Cloke who scored a goal (that shouldn't have been). I'm not saying the Dawks would have won or got close, but how the hec is any team supposed to have a chance against the big boys when they're getting this kind of out and out bias most weeks and extra goals/scores as a result.

It would seem that the AFL, through their umpiring fraternity, is pushing an agenda of paying the obvious or ignoring the obvious towards the major money spinning clubs such as the Pies, any Etihad home team (Doggies etc and those that are playing against a true Etihad non-tenant...like us) and the interstate clubs at their home games.

The umpiring against the Cats tonight is so biased towards the Weagles. 3 Frees out of the middle and 1 around the ground to Cox for holding against Ottens where IMO the decision was 50/50 play on. And that's just to half time. The Cats had a 2 - 3 goal advantage half way through the first too. IMO these frees brought the Weagles back into the match when they were against the ropes early. Many obvious Eagle throws unpaid or ignored too, as well as a few holding the ball massive 360's (as well as one where the player was 360'd and threw the ball away with one hand lol) or where the player was brought to ground after having prior and made no attempt whatsoever to dispose of the ball.

Not sure why we even have a 'holding the ball' rule anymore as the absolute clear ones are rarely ever paid now, let alone the standard ones from days past. Very little reward for tackling anymore apart from the odd turnovers to advantage. And mostly there's downside, given that the tackler has a strong chance of hurting his opponent's head (sling tackles/tough tackling) when bringing to ground or just in the tackle generally and being outed for weeks for rough play etc.

Another example, Cats player awarded free kick on boundary inside Weagles 50, kicks ball from inside boundary. Umpire claims the ball was kicked from inside the boundary, so it's out of bounce, ball up. Weagles eventually score a goal. Compare this to a decision in last 30 sec of 2nd quarter... Weagles player takes a mark under pressure on the wing right on the boundary line. Kicks ball from inside boundary (ie., not over the line at any stage exactly the same as Cats player earlier), umpire calls play on, no ball up.

This game is now almost unwatchable, and unwinnable depending on who/where you're playing, unless you have a spiflicatingly most awesome team that overcomes even this massive bias. Unfortunately we don't at this point lol.

There's an automatic 4 - 5 goal advantage when playing interstate teams, like the Weagles, at their home grounds now and something similar (maybe 3 - 4) against Etihad home teams (where they're playing a non co-tenant like us). That's a huge advantage even to a mediocre team like the Dogs, let alone a team pushing into the top 4 like the Weagles. If the Cats are struggling against this advantage, no wonder we're getting pumped in these situations atm. Not just this year either. It's been around for many years now, but seems a little more accentuated this year.

It's just too consistent and obvious week after week for there not to be some sort of agenda, whether it's brought about through implied pressure or direct pressure, it's definitely a factor that contributes to the turning of certain matches from week to week.

Edited July 9, 2011 by Rusty Nails

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Anyone watch the Dawks - Pies game last week?

There was no standard. Just a constant bias toward paying frees to the Pies, that in most cases weren't legitimate, or ignoring those that should have been paid to the Dawks. Many absolute clanging 'holding the ball' decisions that should have been paid against the Pies, that were ignored and went unpaid also. One in particular, where the Pies player was swung around 360 on their HFF, brought to the ground, dropped the ball momentarily, picked it up again just after the tackle, and went on to short pass to Cloke who scored a goal (that shouldn't have been). I'm not saying the Dawks would have won or got close, but how the hec is any team supposed to have a chance against the big boys when they're getting this kind of out and out bias most weeks and extra goals/scores as a result.

It would seem that the AFL, through their umpiring fraternity, is pushing an agenda of paying the obvious or ignoring the obvious towards the major money spinning clubs such as the Pies, any Etihad home team (Doggies etc and those that are playing against a true Etihad non-tenant...like us) and the interstate clubs at their home games.

The umpiring against the Cats tonight is so biased towards the Weagles. 3 Frees out of the middle and 1 around the ground to Cox for holding against Ottens where IMO the decision was 50/50 play on. And that's just to half time. The Cats had a 2 - 3 goal advantage half way through the first too. IMO these frees brought the Weagles back into the match when they were against the ropes early. Many obvious Eagle throws unpaid or ignored too, as well as a few holding the ball massive 360's (as well as one where the player was 360'd and threw the ball away with one hand lol) or where the player was brought to ground after having prior and made no attempt whatsoever to dispose of the ball.

Not sure why we even have a 'holding the ball' rule anymore as the absolute clear ones are rarely ever paid now, let alone the standard ones from days past. Very little reward for tackling anymore apart from the odd turnovers to advantage. And mostly there's downside, given that the tackler has a strong chance of hurting his opponent's head (sling tackles/tough tackling) when bringing to ground or just in the tackle generally and being outed for weeks for rough play etc.

Another example, Cats player awarded free kick on boundary inside Weagles 50, kicks ball from inside boundary. Umpire claims the ball was kicked from inside the boundary, so it's out of bounce, ball up. Weagles eventually score a goal. Compare this to a decision in last 30 sec of 2nd quarter... Weagles player takes a mark under pressure on the wing right on the boundary line. Kicks ball from inside boundary (ie., not over the line at any stage exactly the same as Cats player earlier), umpire calls play on, no ball up.

This game is now almost unwatchable, and unwinnable depending on who/where you're playing, unless you have a spiflicatingly most awesome team that overcomes even this massive bias. Unfortunately we don't at this point lol.

There's an automatic 4 - 5 goal advantage when playing interstate teams, like the Weagles, at their home grounds now and something similar (maybe 3 - 4) against Etihad home teams (where they're playing a non co-tenant like us). That's a huge advantage even to a mediocre team like the Dogs, let alone a team pushing into the top 4 like the Weagles. If the Cats are struggling against this advantage, no wonder we're getting pumped in these situations atm. Not just this year either. It's been around for many years now, but seems a little more accentuated this year.

It's just too consistent and obvious week after week for there not to be some sort of agenda, whether it's brought about threw implied pressure or direct pressure, it's definitely a factor that contributes to the turning of certain matches from week to week.

Agree 100%, this injustice has become a blight on the game and has to be stop! we pay to watch this [censored]!!