Jump to content

John Butcher

#MYHEARTBEATSTRUE
#MYHEARTBEATSTRUE
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

  Stop: Jurrahtime said:
Familiarity breeds contempt.

Butcher will not go outside the top 10. He is a very good player, and you cannot deny that. We've been analysing him for so long now, that people are picking up the smallest flaws, which in other players would go unnoticed.

He is clearly the best KPF in this year's draft. If Panos or Griffiths were under the same scrutiny as Butcher on this forum, they would be deemed by some posters as a 4th round pick, at best.

Having said all that, I'm on the Trengove bandwagon, but I would still be very happy with Butcher, as he will become a top forward.

Funny how that hasn't happened with Tom Scully...

  • Quote
    •  
      Enforcer25 said:
    Funny how that hasn't happened with Tom Scully...

    Nobody has to find flaws in Scully...it's unanimous that we'll take him at pick 1.

  • Quote
      Stop: Jurrahtime said:
    Nobody has to find flaws in Scully...it's unanimous that we'll take him at pick 1.

    Funny how it hasn't happened with Jack Trengove...

  • Quote
    •  
      Enforcer25 said:
    Funny how it hasn't happened with Jack Trengove...

    Its hard to put my opinion down in words, but here goes.

    Nobody has to find flaws in Trengove. It's widely agreed that he is the 2nd best player in the draft.

    Nobody is disputing Trengove's (or Scully's) ability, but people are questioning Butcher, so they are finding more and insignificant flaws in Butcher's game.

    You see, while almost all pro-Butchers are happy with a midfielder, fewer pro-Trengove/Morabitos would be happy with Butcher. It's different with Trengove because there are minimal question marks over him; there are more over Butcher and these have been exaggerated as a result of "familiarity breeding contempt".

    Also, KPFs are different from mids. I think they are rated a lot more harshly.

    Just a query, where do you rank Butcher compared to Tapscott, Talia, Panos, Griffiths, etc.?

  • Quote
      Stop: Jurrahtime said:
    Just a query, where do you rank Butcher compared to Tapscott, Talia, Panos, Griffiths, etc.?

    At the back! I would definitly prefer Tapscott, Talia or Panos b4 the Butcher! I dont know anything about Griffiths.

  • Quote

    Ben Griffiths - more injury prone than Luke Molan and Scott Gumbleton put together.

    Otherwise he's like a grossly upgraded version of a Trent Zomer or a poor man's Kurt Tippet

  • Quote
      Nasher said:
    Craig Cameron once posted on this board that his biggest mistake was convincing himself that Simon Black would be a poor choice to draft. Stop: Jurrahtime has a point.

    He does, but not in Butcher's case. Its not like you have to look very hard to find flaws.

    In terms of how I compare him to the others suggested:

    Griffiths is about level, but he loses the edge due to his injuries.

    Panos I've not seen enough of to even have a loose opinion of him.

    Tapscott is a flanker, good kick, doesn't have the same potential.

    Talia I rate higher because of his versatility.

    I think all things being even, Butcher rates somewhere between pick 5 & 10 in this draft class.

  • Quote
    •  

    Archived

    This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • REPORT: Richmond

      The fans who turned up to the MCG for Melbourne’s Anzac Day Eve clash against Richmond would have been disappointed if they turned up to see a great spectacle. As much as this was a night for the 71,635 in attendance to commemorate heroes of the nation’s past wars, it was also a time for the Melbourne Football Club to consolidate upon its first win after a horrific start to the 2025 season. On this basis, despite the fact that it was an uninspiring and dour struggle for most of its 100 minutes, the night will be one for the fans to remember. They certainly got value out of the pre match activity honouring those who fought for their country. The MCG and the lights of the city as backdrop was made for nights such as these and, in my view, we received a more inspirational ceremony of Anzac culture than others both here and elsewhere around the country. 

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Richmond

      The match up of teams competing in our great Aussie game at its second highest level is a rarity for a work day Thursday morning but the blustery conditions that met the players at a windswept Casey Fields was something far more commonplace.They turned the opening stanza between the Casey Demons and a somewhat depleted Richmond VFL into a mess of fumbling unforced errors, spilt marks and wasted opportunities for both sides but they did set up a significant win for the home team which is exactly what transpired on this Anzac Day round opener. Casey opened up strong against the breeze with the first goal to Aidan Johnson, the Tigers quickly responded and the game degenerated into a defensive slog and the teams were level when the first siren sounded.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Richmond

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 28th April @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we analyse the Demons 2nd win for the year against the Tigers.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.
      Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/
      Call: 03 9016 3666
      Skype: Demonland31

      • 22 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: West Coast

      The Demons hit the road in Round 8, heading to Perth to face the West Coast Eagles at Optus Stadium. With momentum building, the Dees will be aiming for a third straight victory to keep their season revival on course. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 244 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • POSTGAME: Richmond

      After five consecutive defeats, the Demons have now notched up back-to-back victories, comfortably accounting for the Tigers in the traditional ANZAC Eve clash. They surged to a commanding 44-point lead early in the final quarter before easing off the pedal, resting skipper Max Gawn and conceding the last four goals of the game to close out a solid 20-point win.

        • Thumb Down
        • Like
      • 294 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • VOTES: Richmond

      Max Gawn leads the Demonland Player of the Year from Jake Bowey with Christian Petracca, Ed Langdon and Clayton Oliver rounding out the Top 5. Your votes for the Demons victory over the Tigers on ANZAC Eve. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, & 1.

        • Haha
        • Like
      • 48 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All