Tanking Solution

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

2 potential ways to stop "Tanking"

1. The AFL should award considerable cash rewards for end of season Ladder position.

with large increments for each rung higher up.

2. High percentage at years end taken into account with earning Draft Picks (A team may not win many games, but have a high percentage. That Team should be rewarded.)

At Present the Ladder positions at the bottom are governed by negativity. This needs to become Positive Driven.

The rich get richer..the poor get the picture, the draft wont ever help you when you finish so low.

Apologies to Midnight Oil

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

The rich get richer..the poor get the picture, the draft wont ever help you when you finish so low.

Apologies to Midnight Oil

Point Taken RR but i don't think the Wet Coke Eagles are Scrounging for $$ right at the minute.

The Strong Clubs will always get stronger.

We need some incentives for clubs to climb the ladder.

Maybe keep the PP for the bottom team aswell, but we need to implement some choice for clubs.

If Free agency does come in, then Cash Incentives would be a viable option to a higher Draft Pick.

Right now 6 Clubs have put the cue in the Rack, & that is Wrong.

[demonattack 27]

I don't know if this has ever been raised? If it has I apologise.

How about having a draft ladder which is taken from the results from mid season - mid season, rather than working off the end of season ladder. To me it makes sense and it is an easy solution.

Any issues with it?

In my opinion I think the best way to avoid tanking for a priority pick is to issue them not on number of wins, but on percentage. A system where to get a priority pick the team has to have a % under 75 for two consecutive years. A team like us would rightfully get the priority pick, but a team such as West Coast with a much healthier percentage of around 86 would not get one, even if they only win 4 games. It is much harder to "tank your percentage" than "tank a game" in my opinion.

[grant 10]

A lottery system should be in place as follows:

Only the bottom 8 (ie teams which did not play finals) are able to participate in the lottery.

As in the NBA a lottery should be in place as follows whereby:

- team that is bottom of the ladder has 33% chance of obtaining the first pick in the draft but worst case cannot slip further than pick 3.

- 2nd bottom has 25% chance of obtaining the first pick in the draft but cannot slip further than pick 4

- 3rd bottom has 20% chance of obtaining the first pick in the draft but cannot slip further than pick 5

- 4th bottom has 10% chance of obtaining the first pick but cannot slip further than pick 6

and so forth

With the lottery only taking affect in the first 8 picks of the draft the remainder of the draft remains unchanged.

The above lottery would obviously take some very impressive maths tinkering, and is beyond my capabilities, but i know the NBA draft is conducted in a similar way and if it were possible then the above to me would be ideal.

[biggestred 5,079]

its all [censored].

the order of the draft should not be on ladder position after one year, but should be in order of the number of games a team has won over 3 years. if the total is under 12 over three years give them a priority pick before the draft, if it is under 16 give the team an extra pick at the end of the first round.

sure you might get the odd team tanking each year but you would have to be truely crap to get a PP.

and being that [censored] for 3 years would hurt your club significantly anyway. and it would stop teams (i hate to say it) like us in 2003 getting 2 top 5 picks and playing finals either side of that year!

[biggestred 5,079]

as my example

team......................2007 wins...............2008 wins.................2009 wins (so far)......total

cats...........................18.........................21....................

........14.........................53

port...........................15..........................7....................

.........8..........................31

eagles........................15.........................4......................

........4..........................23

kangas.......................14.........................12......................

.....4...........................30

hawks........................13.........................17......................

......8..........................38

pies...........................13.........................12....................

........10.......................35

swans........................12.........................12......................

.....6...........................30

crows........................12.........................13......................

......10.........................35

saints.........................11........................13.....................

.......16.........................40

lions.........................9 + 2 draws.............10............................10........................30 (inc 2 draws as a win

freo...........................10.........................6.....................

.........3...........................19

bombers....................10..........................8........................

.......8.........................26

dogs..........................9..........................15.....................

........11.........................35

demons......................5..........................3........................

.......3.........................11

blues.........................4...........................10....................

.........9..........................23

tigers.........................3...........................11...................

.........3.........................17

under this, as it stands before tonights game

the draft order under my system would be

1 us 11 wins

2 tigers 17 wins

3 freo 19 wins

4 eagles and blues together - id give the eagles pick 4 as they were worse in the current year 23wins

5 blues 23 wins

6 bombers 26 wins

7 lions swans kangas - again id go on this years order, so kangas 30 wins

8 swans 30 wins

9 lions 30 wins

10 port 31 wins

11pies crows and dogs on the same points, this years order at the end of the season remains to be seen, but for the the purposes of this exercise... pies 35 wins

12crows 35 wins

13 dogs 35 wins

14 hawks 38 wins

15 saints 40 wins

16 cats 53 wins

we would also get a priority pick for having won [censored] all games over 3 years

edit - apologies for the crappy layout it looked great in my draft

Edited July 24, 2009 by Benno