MFC Heritage Listing

[45HG 1,539]

Yeah i was just being a goose.

Being a Grammar boy myself, shock horror, i've heard this story a billion times. I just don't see how you can have two teams playing each other, yet one is claimed to be the first team. Not to mention the game was adapted between two others, rugby and soccer, and possibly adapted from indigenous games, with rules not set down until after the game was played.

I can see why they claim it, and good luck to them as i suppose it helps set some scene for the situation at the time

[Yencks 8]

well it was recorded as victorian rules football when they played

the field was 800 metres long with heaps of people playing and the skills wouldnt have been very respectable...i suppose that is why it was low scoring

i know what you mean but if two teams played each other, one must still be older than the other...as in, both teams were not made at the exact same time on the exact same day

it is very trivial i admit, but one team must be older than the other, and i think that it must be grammar due to the fact that their principle at the time, "initiated the match."

i have heard people claim (stupid people i admit) that geelong is the equal oldest club because melbourne and geelong were the first two teams, however one club must be older than the other...it is not possible to make two teams at the exact same time, one team must be older than the other

very trivial

[Rogue 585]

i know what you mean but if two teams played each other, one must still be older than the other...as in, both teams were not made at the exact same time on the exact same day

Indeed.

[45HG 1,539]

Yeah i see what you mean. But if the game had never, ever, been played before, how do we know there were selected teams?

Did the Grammar principal initiate the game and then select a crop of talented rugby players? Or did he have a ready made team raring to go?

[Yencks 8]

i dont know...i presume that melbourne grammar and st kilda grammar (which is believed to be one of the matches before the "recorded" grammar/scotch match) would have thought that the sport was good and competitive and with the same team (considering it cant have been long after the first match), grammar would have approached scotch and offered them to make a team to play grammars team)

...the school was pretty small back then and it was in their first year so i dont think they would have had any rugby players

[Yencks 8]

and in answer to your question...i dont know if it was the headmaster that wanted a game to be played or someone that worked for the school(s) or if the game was starting to become more popular and the schools thought that they should have a recorded game..

[Yencks 8]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/tabid/7415/D...px?newsid=62166

does this help anyone?

[Demon Rob 2]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/tabid/7415/D...px?newsid=62166

does this help anyone?

um, something about the cultural heritage of bruce's tracksuit I think?

and i think a few of you should go off and read some of the histories of the club and the game. you'll find it interesting.

ps: to the suggestion of 'red and blue' for the cultural heritage, we were known as the invincible whites, so the side affect of this may be that we have to resort to an all white jumper.

[beelzebub 23,313]

I-A-N.. I must confess Im having a degree of dificulty absorbing the impact that any such listing will have upon our continued existence as opposed to continued 'recognition'. Its marvellous that recognition and enshrinemnt may come...but such things can be observed both in the present..and 'past" tences !! I just dont see how any of this actually effects "in a real way" our being..going forward. ...must be me ..lol