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 If they get a PP good luck to them however it's not that long ago, in the scheme of things, that they were winning three flags in a row.

I've been on this earth almost 52 years and have never seen my club win one flag let alone a hat trick of them.

Leppa crying about how unjust the AFL has been rings hollow to me.

Surely Salem and Dunne are better options than any of the current backs, particularly Wagner and Oscar MacDonald.

Very ordinary half of football.

All up none done.

Dumb football.

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We defend terribly.

MacDonald brothers may be good athletes but lack footy smarts.

Understand where Ascobar is coming from.

I can take defeat by a side more talented and well drilled than us but to be beaten by a side on work rate, desperation and a want for the contest which are something we should be bringing in spades after where we have been for a decade is damning.

Losing games like yesterday's hit me harder than some of the spankings we have copped by the top sides over the past seasons.

Just being AFL players seem to be enough for too many of our squad, and the want to continually improve is just not present.

48 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Article of AFL app states Watts was keen to be part of Melbourne's future but wants to explore his free agency options. Here's an idea, try performing consistently for, I don't know let's say 3 games in a row. Sorry Jumbo but Watts your free to go, you can take Grimes and Garland with you. Then and only then will the list be fully turned over.

Here's an idea, try reading and digesting the entire article before making a half-arsed statement.

There is more in the piece about him wanting to stay than him wanting to go.

Just when it would appear they have found a position his skillset suits you would see him go, and after he says he is looking to string some decent games together rather than worry about contract negotiations.

As Jesus said to the cured leper in Life of Brian  " There's no pleasing some people ".

Garry got involved against his better judgement to help out the club and his mate.

After Flower he is the best player this club has had in the past 30 years, often playing under duress, but never shirked his duty or a contest.

He was a great leader who willed himself and his team to greater efforts.

He made 2 bad decisions however that is 2 of what is a litany of poor decisions made by this club for over 50 years.

He is and should always be seen as someone who left nothing in the shed and has always attempted to do what he felt was right for the club.

Can only think those old enough to have seen him play have forgotten what he produced regularly and those who are younger base their opinions on the media persona and not his outstanding record as a player and captain of our club.

1 hour ago, DocRoet said:

My daughter saw Jack Watts in the gym at Casey RACE. She didn't say who else was there

My missus was working at the RACE from 9 - 2.30 and while not knowing any players by name said she saw about 20 different players cycle through there during the day. She was outside most of the time so didn't know whether they were in the gym or using the pools.

 

When the victim did not give a signed statement to the police this was going to go no further. 

 

Totally agree SWYL.

Actually know someone with inside knowledge of  this investigation and the only reason it didn't go further was the victim not wanting it to.

Her refusing to provide a signed statement stopped this in it's tracks.

^^^^^ Same here.

A severe ankle sprain is 8-12 weeks according to Dr Google.

I'm guessing torn ligaments and a severe ankle sprain are a similar injury.

10 weeks would have him fully training about late Jan??

Suffered reasonably bad damage to ankle ligaments and tendons as a young bloke ( 30 odd years ago ) and recovery was a slow process.

3 - 4 months before it was able to be comfortably weight bearing and able to resume any sport and all this time later it still gives me trouble.

Hoping for a quicker recovery for his sake.

Display is a-ok.

Rewind to the 1950's and you'd still be complaining?

The fact is, teams take 5 or 6 years to get good, spend 5 or 6 years being good, and then drop away. Geelong is done. They're finished. Hawks look like they're about to drop off the perch, too. The fact that our administration and football departments have been absolutely deplorable for ten years is not the fault of the AFL. We've had PLENTY of opportunities to climb the ladder and failed. That's not the fault of the AFL. That's the fault of the peanuts who were running our club.

Free agency has altered the landscape in regards to teams dropping off.

Add Dangerfield, Henderson and whoever else they pick up outside of the draft and Geelong are actually far from done or finished.

Hawthorn will also pick up someone decent in the free agency pool which helps perpetuate these teams run at the top.

Yes we have done ourselves no favors through ineptitude but the system will ensure that rising up to a bona fide contender is very difficult, and is becoming more so every season.

I just want this bunch of ars@ clow#s to show the type of commitment and resilience that we supporters have shown for most of our sorry football watching lives.

Apologies and empty rhetoric mean nothing and is what we get fed on a regular basis and until that gets replaced with effort and commitment on field we are doomed to footballing ignominy.

Norm Smith himself would struggle with this passionless, talentless group of prima donnas.

I'm not sure it's all Roos fault, however players making the same skill errors and poor decision making as when he first arrived is damning as erasing these is surely part of a coaches job.

I would have laughed this off a month ago, however these past games have shown us as one of the worst two sides in the comp. with Carlton, and on the past weeks form I have doubts about our ability to beat them.

I have come to peace with the fact that I will never get to see a premiership in my lifetime, being born 2 weeks after our last one, but I did hope my kids would get the opportunity to see one. I'm seriously questioning whether that will ever happen either.

The hope was for Roos to develop the right culture and put the building blocks in place for future success but it would seem the hole we were in was deeper than he thought and his game plan is no longer relevant and to difficult for these players to implement well enough.

First quarter loose ball in the centre,2 loose players in forward 50 and he didnt run to the contest,{pretty normal im afraid}

It was a huge swing,if he took the play on we have an open goal,Dont think it showed up on telly,Cross actually said something ti him on the way past.

2nd one was a definite chance to impact another contest and he didnt,geelong player chipped him about it.

Yes he did play well,but these moments when the game can be broken open and he doesnt make the contest through lack of wanting to get there has been his downfall.Still id imagine most telly watchers to count his possies abnd not see the lack of drive.

Whilst im no fan of his,yesterday he must have got a rocket at half time and showed some fair dinkum go in the second half.{getting to the contest}

I think you're looking too hard.

The results we as a club have managed for the past decade would suggest our players don't learn from past mistakes.

We repeat poor habits season after season.

In fact the only thing we do well is make constant school boy errors, in both skills and decision making time after time.

Pathitic.we are going backwards.this team just does not get it. Time for a clean out of a number of players and give the young kids a go cause clearly there are far too many emotional scares. Starting with Jack Watts.

I agree get rid of him now that he is starting to show something.

Honestly I'm p177ed off as well but how about targeting those that deserve it.

Where is that killer instinct that al Clarkson showed against us? He flooded back so he would win by over 100 points. Terry Wallace was pretty convincing on the radio pointing that out as a very poor "coaching error".

The problem I see with the on field leaders argument is: how would they know it's 41 seconds to go?? It was what 27 minutes and most quarters go 30-32 mins.. If Nathan jones says flood back and here is still 4 minutes.. It was a 2 goal quarter so natural instincts are thrown. It had to come from the coach (and it clearly didn't).

Disappointed that we could and should have stolen that match. We needed that!

Alastair Lynch was in the Melbourne coaches box today and just said on Fox footy that Roos did send that message but obviously they didn't get it in time or chose not to act on it.

On field leadership was severely lacking in this instant.

Do not blame Roos

This one is on the players

Flood back and defend

No leadership at all

This ^.

We have been fortunate enough to recruit some of the dumbest footballers to have played the game.

Complete lack of on field leadership, match awareness and football smarts have plagued this club for to long.

We will never improve while these idiots are running around for us.

Blew multiple opportunites to win

That last goal was pathetic

But in saying that boys found ways to win - just need to fix those mistakes so many terrible mistakes

Same mistakes we have made for the last several years.

Allowing that last goal was criminal.

We have recruited so many dumb footballers that those mistakes will never cease.

Roos and co. are being out coached on match days far to often of late as well.

That "attempt" at a mark in the first quarter was one of the laziest and softest things I've ever seen in the AFL.

Not unlike this post.

Wouldn't rate in the top 10 of stupid skill errors committed today.

Lack of effort.

Fitzy in for Frost.

Playing well and has pace.

Oh yes we were lucky to win

Ablett takes that handball in the goal square. Game changes completely.

Momemtum is modern football

He didn't take the pass & we made them pay

We won and deserved it

But luck did play a big part.

So we were a deserved lucky winner.

Probably the first time those two words have been applied together to describe a win.

Luck had little to do with it.

The best side on the day won and deservedly so.

Amazed we can't enjoy what was a strong victory for what it was.