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As I said I think it is rubbish and a media beat up based on a random Waldron tweet!

It was during 'The Rush Hour', if that helps.

Brian Waldron puts out a random tweet with nothing to support it!!! Then radio, tv, newspapers are all going on about it. Obviously none of them have contacted the club or else they would say 'melbourne had no comment when contacted'. That alone suggests there is little truth to it. All click bait. Waldron achieved his goal: Keeping his name in the media. I think it is all rubbish. Waldron is a St Kilda supporter and a few weeks ago he said they were interested in Watts. I just hope the club has got around Salem and Watts and told them where they stand. I also hope they both stay.

The club has announced some staff changes. http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-09-15/jackson-promotes-from-within-club The existing role is now split into Marketing (directed at new stakeholders) and Communications (directed at existing stakeholders). The latter involves the promotion of 'Ryan Larkin to general manager of stakeholder relationships and communications'. “Ryan Larkin has built outstanding relationships in the media and across the club’s key stakeholders in his time at the club. I know this elevation will help to further grow the club’s ability to provide the very best coverage and communications for our club and supporters, along with nurturing the key relationships that are critical for our club’s success.” Ryan was heavily involved in responding to the post rnd 23 backlash to the club so I doubt we will have that communication fiasco again. I applaud PJ in recognising the importance of communication with supporters with a specific general manager position.

Petracca was on Triple mmm yesterday. Some footy items: His Exit meeting: To bring his 2017 disappointment and hunger for next year into pre season and is expected to play more in the midfield next year. Weight not an issue. Endurance and consistent running need to improve for more midfield. Will tag along with Oliver to improve after being asked who he will follow around to get his conditioning right. I reckon that is a good choice given how Oliver's professionalism and preparation have received great praise from the coahces. Mentioned Jones, Viney and Oliver have been invited to the Brownlow. Love that Oliver is invited. On a lighter note: Will be a barrista at Lavazza marquee @ Melbourne Cup. Off to Byron with some mates - get out of Melb for the GF. Then off to the US with Harmes and Tyson and someone else (non football but seemingly well known). Then to the Maldives with his girlfriend. A very engaging young man.

Something has gone terribly wrong with our salary cap management if we need to give up our only silky players to fit in Lever, given we have a $2m windfall (and having Lumumba off our books). Grain of salt needed - make that a kilo!

You misunderstand. I was giving you credit for being on the money.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/adelaide-tells-melbourne-it-wants-two-firstround-draft-picks-for-talented-defender-jake-lever/news-story/dbe7542425f46d6e0852f5b44c034fce From the article: "ADELAIDE ... want two first-round draft picks ...if he seeks a trade back to Victoria". "Some observers, however — and it is safe to say Melbourne will agree — argue that Lever isn’t worth two first-round choices". "Another option ...would be to give up two first round picks and receive a decent pick back, or to give up a first rounder and then swap picks". That is pretty much as @Judd's Granny describes. The article also says that Coll has dropped out of the race. If a trade doesn't involve a third club there is a fair chance it will be done early in the trade period which starts on October 9 (if he decides to come to us). I'm starting to get my hopes up!

If correct, its good to see mfc protecting our 2018 picks (said to be a very good draft vs 2017).

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It sounds like WB players have had enough. Mitch Wallis was quite forthright last week: "Time will tell, we've all gone our separate ways now so I think the trade period is not for another three or four weeks and there will probably be some conversations which we're pretty well aware of to decide his future...If he decides to stay, he'll stay for a long time. And if he doesn't, well, good luck to him". And there is a bit of chat about players not wanting to play with him: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/david-king-and-mark-maclure-say-the-western-bulldogs-have-made-a-strong-call-in-looking-to-trade-jake-stringer/news-story/5bcb11edcae413c88f124851adb3f031 Off field issues aside, if you can't earn your teammates respect there's not much room at a footy club. This has caveat emptor writ large all over it! Luckily mfc have a no d...head policy. Our energies need to be focused on finals not on baby sitting a problem child and putting out spot fires.

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I was simply guessing D, based on the Italian names on Hawkes list. We need to wait and see what @willmoy can give us.

Are you the new Riddler! Sicily or Puopolo? Rioli even? Yes to Sicily - right age group and can play. No to Puopolo - he is already 30 and is slowing down. Don't need anymore of those. More information please? Or are you just stirring the pot

Effectively delisted. They will not be on the Club's next List Lodgement to the AFL. The only way the club could get something is if waited for a trade or an FA move of Trengove or Spencer. Importantly, by not waiting the club is doing the right thing by the players. Their managers have maximum time to find them a club. It is easier for other clubs to take them as Delisted Free Agents than negotiate a trade.

Looks like Jack may continue in the AFL https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dumped-demon-jack-trengove-definitely-wants-to-play-football-again-says-manager-adam-ramanauskas/news-story/bbaefd15e2753113635e4758e2014b44 If he wants to continue hope he gets gig. Will be delighted to see him get another go and continue to play the game he loves.

I read that Lever's manager is Ned Guy so I googled him and sure enough works for McDonaldSports and Lever is on their talent list: http://mcdonaldsports.com.au/talent/adelaide/ Connors may be right about Lever coming to the dees, but he is not his manager. So there is the possibility he doesn't know for sure. One can only guess why Connors is talking about someone else's client at an Old Xavs function. Maybe be he wanted to talk up Petracca's asking price next year or those of his other Demon clients.

Here is the confirmation, DJ. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-13/gun-giant-extends-his-deal-until-2020 He has extended to end of 2020.

Only when they refer to your comments that are OTT, insulting to a poster or are high horsed about something. Don't know why you signalled me out - others respond the same way to similar posts but whatever. ..tbh I'm surprised anyone tracks the likes to their own posts, let alone likes to other people's posts about them but whatever.

Hope that isn't correct! Especially as earlier this year Lewis was encouraging the young guys to stick together as a team even if it means forfeiting some money along the way. We have quite a few top end players to accommodate: Petracca, Oliver, Gawn, Viney, McD, Hogan who will all be looking for big $$ in the next two years. There will be clubs out there making big offers to those guys even if they don't have elite years. Will be hard to keep the team together if they are all looking for near $1m contracts! And our next tier (Tyson, Brayshaw, Hunt, ANB, Garlett etc) need to be looked after as well.

So sad to see Jack go. He fought so hard to come back and play. A testament to his dedication. Good luck, Jack. You'll always be a demon favourite. My favourite Jack moment was the tackle on Danger!

Updated for loss of Spencer, Hulett, White and Trengove. Especially sad to see Jack go :-( Table now shows our position re list spots and draft picks. Table has also been updated to show games played as at end of 2017. Note: The list spot available from Lumumba's departure is allocated to J. Smiths senior's appointment and a late draft pick (eg #82) will be used. So we have 3 Seniors List spots and at least 1 Rookie Spot. Given Maynard's game at the weekend I wouldn't be surprised to see him upgraded to the seniors list, depending on how many trades we do. As a minimum he would be re-rookied. Edit: Ignore the table below - Can't seem to delete it. It is superseded by the one above. Edit: Image deleted

Misson's EOS http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-09-12/end-of-season-injury-summary So many foot injuries! Smith, Vand, Viney! Viney's sounds serious. Why they brought him back after only two weeks is beyond me. Not to sure what to make of the report on Jesse. "Jesse, with that hamstring [injury], was pretty close to coming back and actually playing again after half-time [against Collingwood in round 23]. He wasn’t really confident with his flat-out sprinting, so he didn’t want to risk that. He would’ve been pretty close to playing [in the first week of the finals], if we had have made it. " Is that contradictory? TBH, even if he wasn't confident with 'sprinting flat out', surely parking him in the goal square was preferable to the bench making us down a player and rotations in rnd 23. Dangerfield kicked 5 a few months ago in similar circumstances. Were we saving Jesse for the Elim final...the one that never came...

Lack of currency will hurt as they don't have a 1st rnd pick. Their picks: 20, 34, 52. They might get some OK FA compensation picks from the AFL if Motop or Menzel go. I don't think they have taken a 1st round pick to the draft since 2014 so doubt the AFL will let them use their 2018 pick. Essendon are reported to be making a big play for Stringer so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out and where it leaves Ablett... With the list structure and talent problems you've mentioned, Geelong could slide down the ladder fairly rapidly! Win the SS games and struggle elsewhere. Chris can join Brad in the lower half of the ladder...

Sure it removed the immediate pressure but will make it harder to get to club of his choice. The old adage of "Cutting off the nose to spite the face" comes to mind.