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iirc they haven't won a game there since 2014. Not sure how many games played there in that time. Nonetheless they will be desperate for a win on the GF turf. Catch us while a wounded prey, so to speak. Us and the tigers later this year are their only chances of an MCG win before finals.

If they finish last and we don't do a deal (if Jackson were to nominate them) they will walk him to the pre-season draft for nothing. It won't come to that as we are and I think Eagles are honest brokers. Max out is a good way for him to find out what it would be like to carry a side both on the field, in the ruck and off field with fans and media. He would be far more exposed to the latter in Perth than in a team where he is a potential champion among several recognised champions. A big weight to carry. I reckon he stays.

Or Bulldogs, Cats, Eagles to mention a few other perennial offenders.

LOL. I was out and only just logged-on so missed the whole show. Will confess, I wouldn't have got it even with the obscure clue! Clearly real world crime/crims aren't my thing. Well done to the medal winners. I look forward to ds's Sunday doozie...

Can we clone him 🤔

They have Daniher 2.01m, Hipwood 2.03m and Mc Stay 1.96cm. Not to mention Oscar McInerney in the ruck 2.04m. They will be kicking it in high to their tall timber i50. Petty is our only tall, tall defender at 1.97 cm. Just don't see how we can take him out of defence. And last week they played Darcy Fort 2.04cm as their medi sub. The only player we have over 2.00m is Ben Brown and he will be busy with Harris who is 2.02m.

We will win at least 5 of the last 9 and make top 4. The finals will be wide open from there. In the top 4 will most likely be Freo, Lions and Cats. Happy to play any of them anywhere. In fact happy to play any team, anywhere. Still think Dees and Lions in the GF!

I didn't have the heart to tell him that! When is your brain teaser coming?

Tomorrow night will be the 'litmus test' for winter Thursday nights at the G! Two big Melbourne clubs. Lions Tigers vs Blues. Nearly 200,000 members between them. Both teams up and about. Tigers home game. Lets see how many turn up. I'm guessing 30K- 35K

The silver lining is Max's body needs a good rest. Also a chance to get his back issues sorted.

Other than lip service, the acknowledgement of other significant factors has been very recent - as in the last few days... Has any poster said '... players are on mass suddenly not fit, etc etc...' I don't think I have. I thought Sydney 'out worked' us. Without going back over old territory and example was they were miles ahead of us on tackles half way through the 2nd qtr. I don't think Freo's and to a lesser extent Coll's tactics were successful enough to win the game. Their in-game tactics worked when they exploited our loss of tall players. Without those losses we most likely would have won both games with or without 'loading'. It was Sydney's tactics that imv worked from the get go. Only their poor kicking prevented the game being over at half time. imv that is the only game in which we have actually been beaten by the opp rather than absentees and in-game injuries. I reckon they would have won with or without 'loading'.

Some of us have been highlighting absent players, illness, in game injuries and opp tactics for weeks only for them to be given lip service with 'loading' proposed as the major cause of our recent performances. Glad to see they are now being given at least equal recognition with 'loading'.

I saw a snippet of an interview with Max last night. He was very unhappy with the short bye. It was in the context of recovery from injuries. It is not like him to take aim at AFL boffins so it must be a real sore point with players and/or the club. He said something like: "...thanks everyone for the shortest bye in history..." No guessing who 'everyone' is!!

Just to clarify, iirc Brown didn't get covid, he was a close contact. The 7 day isolation rule for close contacts was abolished a few days after his iso ended. He didn't play when he came out of iso because he had had no training and the team had already flown to Adelaide. Had he flown when allowed out of iso he would have arrived just a few hours before the game. To be sure I reckon quite a few of our players are still suffering the affects of illness or injuries.

Goodwin said they were thinking of subbing Max out but Turner was already out and Petty was getting medical attention so Max stayed on. I sometimes wonder at the wisdom of keeping players on especially someone like Max who is constantly being crashed into and Petty who has now had 3 weeks or physical 'assaults or breakdowns. It would mean going with less rotations tiring other players. I would prefer that than risk the likes of Gawn and Petty who are critical to or structures and we have few replacements for.

On a 3AW interview yesterday Kate Roffey was asked: if the AFL sanctioned May/Melksham further (apparently they thought not all the info was given to them) would the club appeal?. Roffey replied the club believes the AFL was given all the info, the club wasn't expecting further sanctions and if there were, they would look at the detail before considering an appeal. No mention was made of what further sanctions might be, if there were any. imv, the 'would you appeal' sounded like a 'gotcha' question. Kate didn't take the bail. I reckon if the AFL found the need for more sanctions, they would discuss/negotiate with the club first and there would be a mutually acceptable outcome. Kate handled all the questions about the May/Melksham incident and leaked 2020 Director texts calmly and firmly.

Votes: Looks like the commentators had it right: Cox for the Daniher BOG trophy. But so glad he didn't get it. 10 Mason Cox (COLL) 8 Clayton Oliver (MELB) 4 Brody Mihocek (COLL) 3 Jack Crisp (COLL) 3 Angus Brayshaw (MELB) 2 Darcy Moore (COLL) Coaches Split 5/5 - Cox 4/4 - Oliver 3/1 - Mihocek 3/0 or 2/1 Brayshaw or Crisp 2/0 - Moore Leader board Oliver back on top. Have shown only the top 5 as some teams have a bye next week, including the top 3 ranked players. 71 Clayton Oliver (MELB) 65 Lachie Neale (BL) 64 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE) 59 Patrick Cripps (CARL) 52 Jeremy Cameron (GEEL)

In my trawling of fan forums for our own 'what they...' thread I haven't seen any. Bigfooty in particular seems to have limited new threads so a preview' thread covers 'team changes, opps commentory etc. I will shortly have a look at the Lions fan sites but suspect there won't be much comment just yet as we played only yesterday and the game is 9 days away.

Agreed Gawn and a number of our players are banged up but we don't have replacements for most of them. We don't really get a bye this week but lets hope the 9 day break gives them some respite. It may be time to rest the most injured players. Not all at once but alternate one per week or similar.

On AFL 360 last night Goodwin said Max was sore at training - I think he said it was a back issue but difficult to make out the audio. Then Cox crashed him with this knee. ... who were the morons on the bench giving him cheek - from the tv vision they looked more like supporters than support staff!

Bevo this morning says as much: "And essentially any player with a clinically diagnosed mental health challenge will never be exposed to the policy anyway." ie won't get a strike. none-of-us-are-really-sure-it-works And apparently, when a player admits to drug use they don't get a strike.

Thank you. I was wrong about Geelong.

That is fine but play Thursday night at Marvel where there is a roof or in Perth, Brisbane or Sydney where it is warmer. As I mentioned our game v Brisbane in a few weeks would get 40,000+ at the Gabba but lucky to get 25,000 at the G. Ch 7 would be unaffected. I would go to the Gabba for that game and make a holiday of the trip catching up with friends in Toowoomba, Gold Coast and the Sunshine Coast while there.

That is what I was saying the AFL ban is: no reporting of events around a player with mental health issues so new evidence won't get out. Caroline Wilson discussed this 'ban' at the time of the Jack Stevens stabbing.

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