Willmoy1947

9 hours ago, 58er said:

If you can’t see some undisciplined play by Kossie then you have no reason asking others whether Kossie is. 

Any reasonable supporter can see now that his tackling is a major problem, 3 times in 30 games spells that out clearly.

Your statement that we are not able to judge that because we don’t know if he has actually breached team rules because we aren’t sure if his actions are against rules as outlined by Goody. 

Snd he has surely shown with his continuous unrealistic MOTY or MOTC absolutely unsuccessful attempts an undoubted disregard of any team or football rules . 

The  mantra of discipline is would it be ok for all of our small players to engage in the same practices. No surely not.

They are towing the line crumbing usually and providing good service to the team.

Let me say that Kossie  is able to generally have a very small licence to thrill and Thsts what makes him a 40 goals plus player.

He is one of our best players BUT if he cuts out the above mentioned consistent faults he will elevate himself to an A grader and undoubted consistent match winner for us.

His gsm in the Semi vs Carlton is a classic example of this. Kicked goals as the cameo FF but got penalised as he spoilt his work with wrongful acts and let the team down. 

One could go so far as to say he lost us the game.in his fifth year of footy it’s about time he and the coaches had a very serious talk about what an AFL player is expected to do. 
 

That wasn't the question that i asked.

2 hours ago, Superunknown said:

Said it elsewhere - there should be some internal punishment too

 

You would have been a shunned prefect at my school.

3 hours ago, DubDee said:

they know any head contact will automatically be medium

so giving this a crack. [censored] all chance but

Except if it is Kossi"s head.

7 hours ago, IRW said:

I watch him play. 

I don't know whether he makes his bed or washes the dishes at home.

He regularly jumps at impossible marks rather than being waiting at the bottom of the pack. 

He jumps into body contact " tackles" when apparently Maynard should be in jail. 

Choose your own adjective.

I see" playing on the edge"s the go to club talk ," he's still "working on it" apparently".

Thanks for your  interest 

 

Lets get you over and done with first. Condescending doesn't become you, and i will not engage in that.

Presumably you are in the know about how he is to play?

So the premise of the rest of your writings is null and void.

2 hours ago, binman said:

Agree.

As a dees fan in the 70s and 80s,  lions fans were kindred spirits. Ditto saints fans. 

I played for Beverly Hills junior footy club (Paul roos' team). We wore the Fitzroy jumper and sing the Fitzroy song.

One of my best mates was a huge lions fan, and I lived in North Fitzroy and kicked around Fitzroy, for over a decade. The Newry was my local - directly opposite Brunswick oval, the roy boys original home ground.

And they had some of my favourite non dees players - roos, pert, Wilson and Quinlan (one of the most consistently excellent kicks I've seen).

So I always had a soft spot for the lions. 

It was wrenching, even as a dees fan, when they folded. Just awful. 

My mate was in shock, and without being flippant, experienced real grief.

And I was beside myself the dees would also disappear.

When they became the bears, my mate couldn't support them, so became a dees fan. A fully committed, passionate one too. I saw heaps of games with him.

But when they became the Brisbane lions, which they should have done from the get go, he felt compelled to support them. A knowledgeable and clued in footy supporter, who still has a soft spot for the dees.

That be Freeman Street?

17 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

What they are saying about Melbourne’s win over Crows

• Why does Tom Sparrow look more like Todd Viney than Jack Viney?
• Melbourne's clash jumper looks really nice
• I wish the media hadn't got stuck into Melbourne
• They're getting a bit of teamwork back into their game.
• Really wish van Rooyen had lasted one more pick in his draft
• After the dozens of throws Melbourne have got away with they ping an Adelaide player for that?
• Melbourne's game style often makes for ordinary games

What they are saying about Max

• Gawn's marking around the game has returned after it became a bit inconsistent. Need to take that away from him
• Oscar needs to go with Gawn and neutralise him
• Would it make sense to bring Fort back in to double team Gawn? Just get both of them to rotate often and just smash into him
• I don’t know if Oscar has it in him to play mean and nasty
• Gawn is possibly the best ruckman of this century (I think I am starting to have him ahead of Cox) and Gawn is in good form again
• Oscar quite often starts really well against Gawn and Gawn has mentioned before that Oscar is one of the hardest Rucks for him to play against but Gawn usually wins the battle because he can lasts a whole game. And always finishes much stronger
• Reality is Gawn is a champion player and Oscar , for all that we love him, is an average one
• All I see is Gawn running in to attack the ball and Oscar trying to react to him, which is so not good with Melb. midfield
• I can see this game panning out anything from a big Demons win to a narrow Lions win, we need to bring the heat for all 4 quarters or we will get smashed

Everything else

• Ben Brown serves as the Dees big tall forward and has posed problems for us in the past
• There is little point hoping Rayner can step up in the midfield this Thursday. The last time we played Melbourne in Rd.18, 2023, Rayner had a paltry 8 disposals, managing only 3 in the first half. That game he attended 4 centre bounces and managed 0 clearances for the game. He also failed to hold a mark. This sort of clutch, big occasion game in Melbourne is precisely the sort of game that Rayner goes missing in
• It's very satisfying beating Melbourne - they play a horrible style of football but are hard to win against
• I reckon Fritsch is a very smart player and would love to have him at the Lions. Despite everyone I speak to seeming to have some sort of dislike for him for a variety of reasons

And my two favourites . . .

• But the big question I think every Lions fan is wondering...will the dees inject the deadly Schacheattack into the side to dominate us. We will have to wait and see
• Let’s hope Fagan isn’t playing the whale song and burning the relaxing aromatic oils at half time this week. His ability to put a team to sleep or not keep them on their toes is becoming legendary. Can’t afford the Traditional In-game Nap Time this week. #TINT

 

What a bunch of sucks..

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

We are the only sport in the world that requires our officiators to execute a physical skill. The run a lot of kms and have to perform a skill. Not surprisingly there is a large variance in performance.

Not sure how we go about it but it would be best for the game if these inconsistencies were removed

Well; they have already given up on checking out of bounds rules. But i digress. One thing i notice is distance and direction disparities. Not just because the wind is blowing.

The other point here is that MFC instead of being cornered into not challenging this rubbish, we have decided to be quite upfront, and support our player to the hilt.

The Media would be all over this, if we didn't support Kossi by saying that, we were so upset that another club's player had done such a thing to one of ours, and yet we couldn't even stand by one of our own. That's their scummy attitude.

To my mind we can add this incident, one way or another to the WAR CHEST. Hand out retribution by winning this week's game and onward.

16 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Any apology that’s followed with “but…” shouldn’t be accepted because it’s at that point that the apology is voided.

Anyways. I asked you in a civil manner to exercise sensitivity, you amended your post, and I appreciate it. Thank you.

Incidentally, that I’m in contact with players and their families makes a grand total of ZERO difference to how badly that incident affects me. I’m a member and supporter, same as everyone else.

 

The above is a proper explanation, as against a lame excuse by others

18 hours ago, IRW said:

Just give it rest. 

Kozzi is undisciplined whether it's  "tackle/ bumps " or ridiculous leaps at impossible balls.

On the ground and in the mix he's a genius

I presume you have a reason for knowing that he is undisciplined?

On 07/04/2024 at 12:49, djr said:

Yes he did. According to other media reports, it was quite vicious.

Wouldn't exactly be something they haven't heard before, if they listened to it at the games i have attended.

It's also becoming more and more obvious that the video evidence that we , the public, are getting is vastly different to what is available to the Media and the AFL. What a bunch of cheats.

5 hours ago, picket fence said:

If Fogarty only got 1 week for that hit on Fyffe then Kozzy MUST SURELY get of. That hit was worth 3>4 weeks easy

What about the hit on Fife by the scum bag from Carlton and i know there is a lot of them. He actually looked to see where he was going to hit him and decided on the throat, which is sometimes more dangerous than the face which is also part of the head.

Just now, djr said:

No field umpire would have called touched even when vision showed that the ball grazed a hairfollicle of the docker player. No umpire would have noticed that. 

Pretty loud follicle if six players heard it at the same time.

Another thing is that this seems to be a feature of Carlton. Change to frenzy, make sure it's in the forward line and you are bound to be given a charity  by brown p/b maggots. Dare i say five times out of last ten games

5 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Have you seen the behind the goals vision BoBo? 
Clark must’ve given the ump an almighty spray after Cottrell kicked the goal because you can see his teammate in Walker waving his arms telling him to stop. 

Like most of Carlton's players they play a very doubtful, shifty and sooky type of borderline take any advantage, if you can get away with it.

11 minutes ago, BoBo said:

I just watched the Freo dissent decision and I’d like to know what dissent is regarded as now?

 Because if dissent is questioning the umpires decision, that happens in every single quarter of every match I’ve seen this year multiple times.

Players on the mark constantly dispute decisions… why no dissent? If the umpire calls a mark and the opposition player on the mark says ‘X player touched it’ or ‘that ball was out of bounds’’ for example, that is dissent. Why was Freo called for it when it gets overlooked constantly in all of these other times?

Agree here. The AFL boss said they are considering the two incidents on the basis of first the touched mark incident and the dissent incident, with the dissent result still being reviewed, and they agree that the touched was wrong.

Problem is that the second incident would not have happened if the adjudication was correct in the first place allowing the game obviously to a win for Fremantle..

15 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Aside from the fact that the two Adelaide sides get an extra home game and therefore an unfair advantage I think it's logistically the best place to hold it each year. It's easy to get to from Victoria both by road and air and a relatively short flight from WA.

As for the few GC and GWS supporters that would make the trip their presence is negligible anyway so Andrew Demetriou's plastic implants can play each other every year in Coober Pedy. 

The only issue on the horizon is when Tasmania enter the competition one team won't have anyone to play that week. 

Wobbles?

19 hours ago, jnrmac said:

We are disciplined about not committing too many numbers to the contest. Unlike, say, Collingwood last year.

We trust our players to win contest but if they don't we have players on the outside to sweat on the the oppo players. That per se would see us lose ground ball gets but be better off tactically

Your point is correct except for the point there being , if you have the number outside the contest we need to be rewarded , which it doesn't appear to me as though we are.

11 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

For the amount of complaining in this thread about umpiring, a reader might be mistaken for thinking that it was actually a really important part of the game.

Don't have to go too far back against the same mob where a free kick cost us the game in the last minute. So don't talk to me about the importance of free kicks, young man.

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

Seems nervy and lacking confidence- 3 easy goals missed. Hopefully will get better. 

He will be late getting off the track this week i would think/

5 hours ago, forever demons said:

I never blame the umps but last night was the worst i have seen

No other Team is treated the way we are, at centre bounces, on marks, play on angles, and most of all time factors with just about everything. Total bunch of cheats.

Last night's were pushing, holding and high tackles.

Me too, and McVee what a revelation.

The Maggots were so bad they actually got sick of ways to give Adelaide free kicks in the last.

If i was an umpire's advocate attending that game i would be very embarrassed.

Seems to be the same nos in the twenties every time.... totally inconsistent and sneeky and very disorganized.

4 minutes ago, Chook said:

If Dixon couldn't get it done against McDonald and Lever (and Hore) I don't think Tex can given his performance this year.

Adelaide"s forward line looked pretty crowded to me, in their game against Freo and Pierce diid the job, but we aint got a Pierce. Just saying. 

8 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Fullarton hasn't done much at Casey but I understand your point on BBB.

If May returns then Petty plays forward which allows bbb to be rested possibly

Petty returns down back because they will be going through Tex because May probably will not play.