13thFlagIsComing

I'm here at AAMI Park and the conditions are cool with a slight breeze. About 20 fans here atm.

Can anyone tell me if the club is training this Friday?

Thanks everyone for the updates. Keeps everyone @ home or at work (like me) excited and looking forward to the NAB Cup and more importantly Round 1.

After putting down $10 @ 50/1 to win the NAB Cup, i'm confident we'll give it a fair crack this time around.

We have a decent draw as well....

Friday,
Feb 22

Etihad Stadium

North Melbourne v Melbourne
6:45pm EDT

Melbourne v Richmond
7:50pm EDT

Richmond v North Melbourne
8:55pm EDT

FOX FOOTY

Sunday, Mar 3

Renmark

Port Adelaide v Melbourne

4:00pm CDT

Saturday, Mar 9

Casey Fields

Melbourne v St Kilda

2:30pm EDT

War Machine: AC/DC

Survive: Muse (See video on Demonland for song)

"Sources close to the AFL confirm that they are investigating the coin toss before the Round 18 game against Richmond in 2009. According to statements made by people interviewed for the investigation, captain James McDonald was told to pick heads instead of his usual tails. Also according to the testimony, McDonald was under pressure to switch to heads after heated discussions held in the room called 'The Vault' by Chris Connolly who reminded everyone in the room of the importance in picking heads for the coin toss, thus limiting Melbourne's chances to kick with the breeze in the 1st quarter and create a lead that would be sustained to win the game"

Seriously what else are the AFL going to accuse us of next?

The trumpeter being off key which annoyed the players so much they weren't thinking straight thus fumbling the ball more than usual?

Ronald Dee Barassi playing in the ruck instead of Paul Johnson?

That Yze pass was from the 2000 Prelim...what a night!!!

Thanks again everyone. Pass on the video to any Dees fans you know to get them fired up or 2013!!

Dee-Luded - try this:

Thanks for the responses everyone.

Took a few hours to put together and tried to get as much as i could in regards to history, aggression and skill.

If it doesn't work, try searching for it on YouTube.

Morning Demonlanders!

Due to the heat i couldn't sleep and finished my first Demons video.

Hope you all like it and it gets you fired up for 2013!

CARN THE DEES!

AFL could be looking for a compromise and release the details over the "quiet" Christmas period.

Would the club sacrifice one of their own as the fall guy to this to save further penalties?

Please delete this thread as that song, proposed jumper and proposed club all sucked.

Congratulations Greeny on the role. I always believe players should switch to other clubs to learn not only about their structures, culture and behaviours, but also expand their football philosophy by learning from different coaches..

..otherwise you end up with another Kevin Muscat.

This whole saga would make one awesome ESPN "30 for 30" style documentary.

"Connolly and Schwab will destroy your club."

This comment was said during a conversation on a tram to the MCG between myself and a Freo supporter before the Geelong vs. Freo final a couple years ago. When i asked why they will destroy our club, he replied that "they will run their own agenda. they werent liked at freo"

Having looked on google i came across this article in 2010 about the rise of Fremantle...makes for interesting reading..

In 2002, with Fremantle facing their biggest ever non-derby home game, Fremantle coach Chris Connolly, flanked by chief executive Cameron Schwab, dubbed opposite number Mick Malthouse "Darth Vader" to pump up the game against Collingwood.

In 2004, with the Dockers fresh from their first finals berth, he went further by likening the game against Grant Thomas' fast rising St Kilda to Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier squaring off.

In round 1, 2010, Connolly's successor Mark Harvey's first reaction to a stunning nine-goal upset of Adelaide was to hose down the hype.

Ahead of this weekend's match against reigning premiers Geelong, Harvey dubbed his young Dockers "P-platers".

The last two incarnations of the Fremantle Football Club are chalk and cheese. If the Connolly-Schwab era was much hyped and promoted, it's fair to label the Harvey-Steve Rosich era as a quiet build.

That is not to bag Connolly and Schwab, who inherited a debt-riddled football club and needed bums on seats and money in banks quickly. So they traded rather than drafted and they talked up rather than hosed down.

Off-field, they built a successful football club.

The new era is trying to do what Schwab and Connolly never quite managed: build a successful team.

Chief executive Rosich shuns comparisons with the previous hierarchy because he understands the financial realities and the needs they created.

Schwab's Dockers needed marketability and financial stability. Rosich's Dockers need young players with ability and long-term credibility.

Schwab needed a club that would float, built from the top down. Rosich needs a team for the future, built from the foundations up.

So Fremantle have undergone a quiet overhaul, which started with Rosich's appointment as CEO in July 2008 and is still a long way from finished despite an encouraging start to the season.

It began with a frank assessment, done with football operations general manager Chris Bond and Rosich, as to where the club was at. There was a list management model drawn up and change flowed.

"It clearly highlighted the need to turn over a large percentage of our list and a need to get a large group of younger players into the club, in particular as many first and second- round draft picks as we could muster," Rosich said. "That has been the most visible change and it has probably led the other changes."

Their recruiting department was restructured, headed up by Brad Lloyd, for an assault on the 2008 draft. He said the club's approach to it and the following draft in 2009 was two-pronged.

"The focus wasn't on past decisions; it was what we needed to do to get us to the next level rather than looking backwards," Lloyd said. "We thought that building a list through the draft was the way to go, keeping all our first and second round early picks."

It was partly about young talent at the national draft. Hence Stephen Hill, Nick Suban, Anthony Morabito and a little older Hayden Ballantyne.

It was also about finding more mature players from the rookie draft to fill a gaping void on the Dockers' list. Hence Greg Broughton, Jay van Berlo, Matt de Boer, Michael Barlow and Alex Silvagni.

The early evidence suggests the Dockers have scored on both fronts.

"But you can't just bring in lots of young players and devote the same amount and quality of resources to them and expect results," Rosich said. "We looked closely at all of our resources and there has been significant change. The first major changes came in the sports science area. Then this year we established a new academy headed by Simon Lloyd.

"It is all to ensure we are developing our playing list, which has become a very young playing list, as quickly as possible."

The differences between the Schwab and Rosich regimes do not end there though.

Before 2005, with his club struggling to meet the high expectations, Schwab and the board moved quickly to re-sign coach Connolly to head off speculation.

Rosich stressed this week that the club's good start would not alter the time frame for Harvey negotiations.

"We have got a time frame and parameters in place to work with Mark and his managers. There is no need to alter that because of win-loss ratios. That would be exactly the same if we hadn't got across the line in our first two games," he said.

The club will remain low-key and conservative rather than pumping up its games. The side effects are small but measurable.

The Dockers are likely to have a membership of about 36,000 this year, smaller than recent years, and have budgeted conservatively for a smaller profit.

"We have been determined not to make short-term decisions on and off-field for short-term gains off the field," Rosich said. "Our messages have been deliberately conservative and they will continue to be so, and the strategies on and off the field will continue to have a longer term rather than shorter term focus.

"We hope the public will vote with their feet if we are playing disciplined and organised football and continue to improve.

Some interesting thoughts about Connolly and Schwab on Dockerland as well!

We Win = Scarf flaps outside car window down the Tulla on the way home, i log into Demonland, read the reviews and the forums, watch post match interviews and press on DeeTV, watch the replay during the week, read Superfooty and Realfooty then keep logging into Demonland throughout the week.

We Lose = All of the above except the scarf.

So according to Brock, Bailey had a tough time going along with the "development path."

So if it wasn't the coaches call to develop the list the way they did then whose call was it?

Was the CEO at the time?

Tthe Football Manager at the time?

The President at the time?

A so called "powerful supporters group" at the time...?

Dees by 3 goals

11,000 at the game.

No rain...

20 minutes from home on the Tulla...

Hey Fremantle.....

My 2012 Trade Week Prediction.....

Sellar's improvement has come from keeping his game plan simple.

"See ball, punch ball"

Very much in the Josh Gibson mould.

Rivers had to play this role for a long time but just didnt have that extra bulk that Sellar has.

Now that Riverlenko (......you beauty....) is snagging a few up forward, creates room for this type of specific role and looks like Sellar is responding nicely.

Trappers final in 02 against the Crows. ...even though we lost the 60 minutes he played in the 2nd & 3rd quarters was on another planet..

Some Billy idol action maybe...

"Here he comes now hey it's Brent Moloney

Shooting from sixty thats Brent Moloney

Crashing through the packs makes him feel alright now

You gotta toss and turn and feel aright yeah

Feel alright i said yeah , yeah

Yeah, yeah, yeah (times 1000 or however many it is)

Dont mess with the one

Brent Moloney...

brent Moloney

Brent Moloney...

go on with that as long as you want.

its a rough draft...