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Good grab jeffo, presented strongly and took it in his hands out front. And converts.

Tholstrup very busy with some good hands resulting in close, Hardie marks just inside 50 and gets his 3rd

Tholstrup with a run down tackle and another free, kicks it long to the top of the square where sharp roves the ball and kicks the goal. Tholstrup looking good on ball so far

Tholstrup wins a holding the ball free and converts the set shot 20-25 metres out on a slight angle, Casey hit the front.

Laurie hits up Billings who gets hit late in after the mark and gets a 50metre penalty bringing him to the top of the goalsquare and coverts.

Mitch Hardie is a beast.

Is this a reciprocal home game?

North traded out their first round pick, currently pick 2, for pick 27 (Matt Whitlock) and Richmond's 2025 2nd round pick (currently 21 but likely to be 27+ by the time academy players are taken).

Our midfield should annihilate theirs. We have the bye yet again next week so we should see some desperate players wanting to put their hand up for senior selection.

Hard to pick from the extended bench. Langdon and Adams seem to be the locks. One of Petty or Jefferson is a third. Two of Spargo/Lindsay/Howes/Culley to make up the 4th + sub. Guessing Laurie has been told to clean out his locker.

This is a very interesting tidbit. "Evans, who lost a tooth and was left bloodied and bruised, conceded to the tribunal that he didn’t think he was going to get to the ball before May, adding to the confusion over the ban." From a news.com.au article Can the MROs decision to suspend May get anymore ludicrous?

This might be one of the worst posts I've ever seen on demonland

Yes, I presume the MRO thinks May has a phd in both physics and mathematics and can solve complex equations taking into account mass, acceleration, angles of both himself and his opponent as well as the ball and its own individual physics, likelihood of bounce base off visualised rotation, plus factoring in weather elements that may effect outcome of both himself, his opponent and the ball. Apparently he should know each opponents max speed and acceleration capacity as well as intent at each contest. Apparently it was reasonable for May to factor all of this in less than three seconds and foresee he was likely to be 2/10ths of a second late to the contest.

Check out this horse**** reasoning Reasons: The football was handballed over the head of Francis Evans and towards the Carlton goal. Evans turned and accelerated quickly to retrieve the ball. When he did so, he was several meters in the clear. Steven May had been running back towards the goal, and appears from the vision to have been approximately 20 meters away from Evans when he first saw that the handball had gone over the head of Evans. May changed direction and ran at speed towards the ball. We find that at the moment that May changed direction and ran towards the ball, a reasonable player would have realised that it was highly likely that Evans would reach the ball before May did. There was, of course, the possibility that, if everything went right, from May's perspective, he may reach the ball at about the same time as Evans, but only if the ball only bounced low and fast on every bounce away from Evans and towards May. We find that when May changed direction, a reasonable player would have realised that there was little, if any, chance that May would reach the ball first. The most he could have hoped was that he would arrive at about the same time as Evans, and as we have said, it was far more likely that he would reach the ball after Evans. May then accelerated towards the ball. He appears to have made no allowance for the likelihood that Evans would reach the ball first. In the circumstances, he should have done so. Much emphasis was placed on the fact that the last of the four times that the ball bounced, it did so in a more upright manner, and that brought the ball closer to Evans than to May and that May could not have foreseen this. May said that the ground was wet and that therefore the ball tended to skid through. He acknowledged, however, that even in the wet, it is possible the ball will bounce up. Here the vision shows that the second last bounce also bounces in an upright manner, so May could and should have observed that the next bounce may well also sit up. May could and should have realised before the last bounce that he remained unlikely to get to the ball first. By the second last bounce he could, and should have realised that Evans would reach the ball first and likely take possession of the ball. Both players had a clear and unimpeded view of the ball and of each other. As he gathered the ball, Evans had time to position his body just slightly so as to turn slightly away from May. This gives some indication that May had sufficient time to make some attempt to move his body in a way that minimised or avoided the impact to Evans. May had his arms out to gather the ball, he had sufficient time to retract them noticeably, indicating that he had some reaction time. May made no attempt to change his path, his body position or his velocity at any time leading up to or in the contest. As a result, the effect was that he ran through Evans at high speed. A reasonable player would not have done so. May did not have a lot of time to do so, but he had sufficient time to avoid or minimise a high speed collision with a player who was gathering the ball. The collision involving Alex Pearce was used by way of comparison. In that matter, the players arrived at the contest almost simultaneously, and yet Pearce had time to drop his arm in an attempt to minimise contact. Evidence from the biomechanist states that may had only 0.56 seconds from the time that the ball landed for its final bounce until the moment of the collision, and that he would have needed at least 0.2 to 0.25 seconds to react, noting that this is the reaction time in controlled laboratory environments. We find, however, that May could and should have reacted before the moment of the last bounce of the ball. Even if, contrary to our view, May could and should not have reacted until the final bounce of the ball, we find that he had sufficient time to position his body so that he was no longer attempting to gather the ball. It's important to note in this regard that May had a relatively long period of time to sum up the key features of the contest. This was not a situation where May had a split second in which to assess what might happen in the contest and to consider what he might do if the ball did not bounce in an entirely favourable way for him. May ran a sufficient distance and had sufficient time with an unimpeded view of what was before him to determine what he could and should do in the likely event that he did not reach the ball either first or at the same time. We find that May engaged in rough conduct that was unreasonable in the circumstances. As we said in the Pearce matter, an outcome of concussion does not inevitably result in a finding of at least careless conduct. Every incident must be and is examined and determined on its own facts. Here, the collision resulted in a concussion to a player, and that collision was caused or contributed to by a failure by May to take reasonable care. A reasonable player in today's game would not have collided with Evans in the manner that occurred here.

No Sinnema either which is also not surprising. Think both will be picked up late/rookied though.

Bump. Some posters seemed to have missed this thread.

Out: May, Tholstrup, Lindsay (rest), Sharp In: Petty, Sparrow, Billings, Laurie/spargo Petty to replace May in the backline. Don't think Adams is quite ready yet. For the third week I'll say that Tholstrup needs to be played at Casey. Second week recently where he's been subbed early in the third after having not much impact. Give him the rest of the year at Casey in the guts. Sparrow is clearly seen as best 22 by the footy department and will come in fitness pending his concussion. Billings has been in hot form at Casey and if we're serious about winning games then he plays over Sharp. Laurie and Spargo both played well at Casey. Laurie's cards seemed to have been stamped so we'll probably see Spargo return. Johnson for Jefferson no doubt to be discusses at match committee but hope Jefferson gets another crack at it.

Haynes officially sanctioned for his trip on Jefferson in the 4th quarter. No free kick paid to Jefferson who would have been 35 metres out on a 45ish degree angle. The scores were 72 to 70 with 4 minutes to play at the time.

Without wanting to sound too much like a wet blanket but its hard to read a lot into the performance given the weakness of the opposition. Our key forwards in particular weren't facing strong opposition and often had massive size and weight differentials in our favour.

Cameraman has switched off

Billings, Johnson and Laurie the best of the dees to my eyes with Culley going ok as well. Enjoyed the two run down tackles from Petty.

Don't mind this. We certainly need some key position depth with Fullarton, Hore, McDonald and May all likely gone within 1-2yrs.

May suffered concussion late and will miss regardless of a possible suspension.