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A better way to describe it is you use any of the 3 picks in any sort of multi ... but not as single win bets. Thus, it gets called a 2/3 parlay And there are a maximum of 4 multi combinations using the 3 picks But I generally only use races where I don't want to have a win bet because the thing I like is too short in the market and my outlay is too big for a not big enough return $3 or $4 chances as a general rule

3 races with 3 set picks in each race You then take the 3 doubles within the 3 picks (A & B, A & C along with B & C) as well as the treble (A, B & C) Any 2 get up and you get 1 x Double ... if all 3 salute then you win the Treble & 3 x Doubles So 4 bets in all ... I usually split up $25 or $30 in the total outlay (often 8, 8, 7 & 7) But I carefully pick out the 3 races, not just any old race. So our best bets can be used in that fashion. A 2nd chance if you like If you outlay a total of $30 and if one of the doubles gets up at $8 @ $3 x $4 ($12) then you'll get back $96 (well in front!) If all 3 salute it's happy days!

Reckon I'll start using our 2 tips with 1 other to form a 2/3 parlay bet I picked up another 3 doubles using the 2/3 parlay method in the UK (over the last 2 nights) to end up in front for the weekend. All 3 of the other picks all ran 2nd so I could have been swimming in it!

To be honest I needed to peruse a few web sites to find a lot of the medal chances (or top 8 chances) so there's likely to be other chances such as the 4 x 200 Womens Freestyle that you pointed out TD Drawn to the team sports as well but as we saw in Rio, medals in the team sports are hard to come by ... but the matches themselves are always riveting viewing Even the Sharks in the Mens Water Polo can be an enthralling watch although the Eastern European nations tend to dominate Interesting changes in the basketball but we should be good enough to reach the quarter finals (at least) with both the Boomers & Opals And the Hockeyroos will do well to compete well after reading that article ... you often have to wonder how these things get so out of control. Not good I just hope that Ch7 are able to co-ordinate it all so that we don't miss the big moments. It's an onerous task but they've had plenty of time to get it all organised Apparently Hamish is hosting the 6.30pm - 10.30pm stint every day. Good move as he's a thorough pro. Not everyone's cup of tea but I like his style. As always, Bruce will cover the track & field and he's the best in the business The swimming kicks off day 1 but ... all the finals will be in the morning (11am - 1.30pm approx) Catering for the big USA TV networks wins out. Money talks So Sunday morning in the first week is where we can start winning some medals in the swimming. Thankfully, nearly all the track & field finals will be held in the evenings (8.00pm - 11.00pm approx) I'll post up a link to the official site soon enough but it's a really easy site to use and navigate (especially with the scheduling)

Team events involving Australia (in the first week) ... all times are AEST but please double check any of the scheduled times listed. Channel 7 along with 7Two, 7Plus & 7mate are covering the Olympics Wed 21/7 Softball Aust vs Japan 10.00am Wed 21/7 Football (Womens) Matilda's vs NZ 9.30pm Thurs 22/7 Softball Aust vs Italy 3.00pm Thurs 22/7 Football (Mens) Olyroos vs Argentina 8.00pm Sat 24/7 Hockey (Mens) Kookaburra's vs Japan 10.30am Sat 24/7 Softball Aust vs Canada 11.00am Sat 24/7 Water Polo (Womens) Stingrays vs Canada 4.15pm Sat 24/7 Football (Womens) Matilda's vs Sweden 6.30pm Sun 25/7 Softball Aust vs USA 11.00am Sun 25/7 Hockey (Womens) Hockeyroos vs Spain 8.00pm Sun 25/7 Water Polo (Mens) Sharks vs Montenegro 4.30pm Sun 25/7 Basketball (Mens) Boomers vs Nigeria 6.20pm Sun 25/7 Hockey (Mens) Kookaburra's vs India 7.30pm Sun 25/7 Football (Mens) Olyroos vs Spain 8.00pm

Great to see that the Olympics are going ahead despite the Covid world we live in Just about every other sport (or sporting event) has managed to get by despite Covid so those calling for the Olympics to not go ahead might want to imagine how they'd feel if we didn't have any sport at all. For instance, the footy These athletes should be admired in the sense that they dedicate their lives to a particular sport and often only get one shot at glory. I welcome the new sports too. It's a changing world and sports are no different in that regard The Aussies could end up with up to 40 medals with a gold medal tally of about 8-10. All things considered, that would be a great result but the tally could be even better if we do really well in the pool If I get a chance I'll post up the upcoming events to look out for but the resident Demonland guru on all things Olympics @MadAsHell may well be able to help out in that regard In the meantime, here are some of the Aussie chances ... Ariarne Titmus: 200 Freestyle, 400 Freestyle Jessica Fox: Canoeing C1 & K1 Rohan Dennis: Individual Time Trial (Cycling) Laylee McKeown: 100 Back, 200 Back, 200 IM Field Hockey: Kookaburra's, Hockeyroos Sally Fitzgibbons: Surfing Stewart McSweyn: Athletics - Middle Distance Soccer: Matilda's Basketball: Opals & Boomers Rohan Browning: 100m Sprint Rowing: Mens Fours & Womens Fours Tennis: Ash Barty Sailing: Mens 470, Mens Laser Swimming: 4 x 100 Freestyle womens, Mixed 4 x 100 Medley Relay Triathlon: Mixed Team Relay Kurtis Marschall: Pole Vault Brandon Starc: High Jump Kersey-Lee Barber: Javelin Equestrian: 3 Day Event Rugby 7's: Mens & Womens Softball: Womens (Aussie Spirit) Water Polo: Stingrays & Sharks Kyle Chalmers: 100 Freestyle, 200 Freestyle Jack McLoughlin: 800 Freestyle, 1500 Freestyle Of course, we have a number of other chances as I'm not across all our prospects (and there are always surprise results, especially in the lesser known sports)

Nice one I had it going in 2 doubles and missed on both! Still, that's my strategy on these best bets Get one up and it pays for itself for close on 6 months. And the small outlay doesn't hit the pocket

Not exactly jazz but fits on this thread rather than the rock thread Both acts from New Zealand

Some glam rock ... hard to believe that this music is 47 years old!

Best Bet Saturday - Flemington Race 2 No.3 Seb Song (J Kah) 6.00/2.00 The double is paying 24-1 (with a boost)

The State governments from both sides of politics are taking a hard line approach to lockdowns ... but some are slower/quicker than others to enact those lockdowns The goal is elimination not containment ... and until we're all vaccinated we can expect more of the same with regards to lockdowns (from the various State governments) We could (in theory) have another 4 or 5 lockdowns in Victoria alone because of the elimination target. And it could all go on for quite some time

In terms of a group of people gathered at one indoor location for a prolonged period it can be. Another bigger sample size could have other variables where people don't come in contact with each other ... like a sporting event or such like But the gist of my point was not the technicalities rather the slow uptake on vaccination. It's fair to say that a similar but bigger sample size could eventuate but we might have to wait months for that to happen In the meantime, we live on a knive edge unless one is on the other side of the argument (nothing to see here people) Where do you stand on compulsory vaccination? I'm not necessarily for it but if that measure was brought in then I would accept it as a 'greater good' ruling And it might come to that if the public doesn't get a move on with regards to getting vaccinated. If not, we may well being going in and out of lockdowns for at least the next 2 years. Or longer Without the masses being vaccinated endeavouring to keep the delta varient confined to one State or another will require a very big dose of luck when considering the shoddy quarantine conditions

The data from that super-spreader party should have been highlighted by all the media outlets (more so with an emphasis on the 6 people who didn't contract the virus who also coincidentally had been vaccinated) We need a greater take-up of the vaccine but in my view, many have been frightened off by the side effects (highlighted in the media) so are prepared to wait And because the virus isn't out of control here in Australia as it is (or has been) in numerous other countries, I reckon many don't believe they are in any danger of contracting the virus But that's just my opinion and there could be other reasons why we aren't getting vaccinated at a rapid rate.

24 people ended up contracting the virus from that super-spreader party up in Sydney A total of 30 people attended the party but the 6 people who didn't contract the virus were the only 6 who were vaccinated against the virus Fairly decent sample size and the story is both frightening and enlightening with a positive outlook (in terms of the effectiveness of the vaccine) Someone else might be able to able to determine which of the 2 vaccine's that the 6 had been administered with (?) Or was it a mix of the 2?

They'll do well to reel in the virus in Sydney/NSW in 2 weeks. They could be in lockdown for an extended period of time Then the danger is that this varient (Delta) could spread outside that State. Too many getting exemptions into other States spells trouble Finger pointing helps no one ... the rest of Australia needs NSW to overcome this latest outbreak The aim is elimination not containment ... this virus can't be contained Vaccinations has been slow in NZ as well ... the mindset is completely different when the disease isn't spread about like it is in nearly every other country

The pressure for spots can only be great for the team ... apart from the 13 or 14 that are guaranteed selection along with the 4 or 5 that are playing too well to be dislodged, the last 3-5 picked will be playing as if their lives depend on it The large majority, if not every player, are contributing in a worthwhile manner But the MC could replace 3 or 4 current players (if their form dropped away) with 3 or 4 others over the next 4-5 weeks and the team wouldn't necessarily be worse off There are 8 more games to go in the season proper and in that time players can lose form or get injured. Right now, spots are really scarce in the seniors but that can change

And if we keep our players fresh and keep winning percentage won't matter Locking down games at the tail end of games can have the cumulative effect of saving the legs of the best players We've been playing a non percentage boosting style all season and sit 2 games clear on top If Ben Brown comes in and fires we are looking even better It's fair to say that our forward line needs to perform better so we need improvement in that area

First noticed the lesser emphasis on percentage with Geelong in 2017 They finished 2nd that year but their percentage was around 117. Scott started locking down late in games and now many other teams are following suit. Defence first ... Roos' mantra from long ago holds up and we are seeing it first hand with our own team

Depends on how one views footy ... when Essendon got within 11 points late in the last quarter I was not in the least bit concerned ... had strong belief in our systems & structures New dawn, new age, new team. MFCSS has been buried for now 5 years ago I would have had an opposite view with only an 11 point lead but 5 years ago we were nowhere near as good defensively as we are now We have become the lockdown specialists ... here's hoping we can maintain that mantra

I reckon the days of needing to crush teams and with it, thirsting for percentage are a thing of the past Footy is now a defence first sport so all that really matters is the win Percentage is worth half a win and is it really worth smashing the best players week after week just so as to win by a bigger margin? Not crushing teams is not a weakness when you analyse how we go about it We now have 4 walls of defence ... our forwards applying defence pressure, midfield the same and then the 2 lines of defence. May often plays last man as a type of goalkeeper

Earlier in the year it started becoming quite noticeable how well our defence was playing as a collective But there is no denying actual possessions in the back half and the efficiency of those possessions So tonight (collectively) May, Lever, Salem, Rivers, Hibberd & Hunt had 109 possessions between them. And if we count in Brayshaw who gathers the ball a lot (24 tonight) in the defensive part of the wing that adds up to 133 ... a big number but we're doing that consistently. Petty's role down back is almost as a pure stopper so his numbers are nearly always going to be low Think about years gone by and compare those numbers to the accumulation of numbers in defence this season. Often quality possessions too (intercept marks, re-gathers, backline teamwork etc) As Grapeviney said in an above post, other teams are stifled from their own half back line facing our team defence and the actual defence. Forward entries by the opposition often result in futile exercises Starts from the forwards applying pressure, then the midfielders and then the 2 lines of defence. A four pronged strategy But we've built a wall down back that is quite dependable

Yeah I just missed on the F4 in the Away Game race ... lean day! (but still way in front from last weekend!)

Tour de France starts tomorrow night (SBS) SBS cycling commentator Matthew Keenan said today that up to 4 Aussies could end up in a top 10 position (overall) in the tour ... 3 of the 4 are the head riders for their team's with Porte to aid Geraint Thomas when applicable. A support role but if Thomas falters, Richie can step in especially if he is in and around the top 10 in the GC Richie Porte - Ineos Grenadiers Ben O'Connor - AG2R Jack Haig - Bahrain Victorious Lucas Hamilton - Team Bike Exchange So there's a bit to look forward to aside from Caleb Ewan & Michael Matthews probably featuring in the sprint finish stages There are also another 4 Aussies involved and www.cyclingnews.com has a feature article on the Australian involvement (click on Tour de France on cyclingnews.com or try google) Here's a brief description of each Stage ... n.b. Cat1, Cat2 & Cat3 indicate the degree of difficulty of the various climbs Stage 1 Sat 26/6 Flat/Hilly Stage 2 Sun 27/6 Flat/Hilly Stage 3 Mon 28/6 Flat Stage 4 Tues 29/6 Flat Stage 5 Wed 30/6 Time Trial Stage 6 Thurs 1/7 Flat Stage 7 Fri 2/7 ... 2 x Cat4, 2 x Cat3 and 1 x Cat1 Stage 8 Sat 3/7 ... 1 x Cat3, 1 x Cat4 and 3 x Cat1 Stage 9 Sun 4/7 ... 2 x Cat2 and 3 x Cat1 Stage 10 Tues 6/7 Flat Stage 11 Wed 7/7 ... 2 x Cat4 and 3 x Cat1(includes the double ascent of the notorious Mont Ventoux) Stage 12 Thurs 8/7 Flat Stage 13 Fri 9/7 Flat Stage 14 Sat 10/7 ... 2 x Cat3 and 3 x Cat2 Stage 15 Sun 11/7 ... 1 x Cat2 and 3 x Cat1 Stage 16 Tues 13/7 ... 1 x Cat4, 2 x Cat2 and 1 x Cat1 Stage 17 Wed 14/7 ... 3 x Cat1 Stage 18 Thurs 15/7 ... 2 x Cat4 and 2 x Cat1 Stage 19 Fri 16/7 Flat Stage 20 Sat 17/7 Time Trial Stage 21 Sun 18/7 Flat Sprinters to look out for on the flat/hilly stages ... Caleb Ewan Mark Cavendish Peter Sagan Arnaud Demare Tim Merlier Sonny Colbrelli Wout van Aert Mattieu van der Poel Alexander Kristoff Elia Viviani Michael Matthews And the GC contenders ... Tadej Pogacar Primoz Roglic Geraint Thomas Richie Porte Richard Carapaz Enric Mas Julian Alaphilippe Rigoberto Uran Ben O'Connor Lucas Hamilton Jack Haig Marc Hirschi Tao Geoghegan Hart Nairo Quintana David Gaudu Chris Froome Brandon McNulty Radal Majka Marc Soler Giillaume Martin Patrick Konrad Wilco Kelderman Emanuel Buchmann Michael Woods Alejandro Valverde For more info www.cyclingnews.com has a full Tour de France preview

Been a while for this thread! Anyway, here's a new artist with a new jazz-type sound ... couple of catchy tunes

Laddies keep about 10% but I like my multi's to be on my terms so I'll take that small hit. Trouble is that Lunar has come into 2.40 for the place (was 3.20) ... so I'll find another along with Canasta to get the odds up. An all-up place bet might salute There's plenty of value in Melbourne & Morphettville though. Waiting on Gator's Randwick tips but there's 3 or 4 shorties so the multi's up there might be the go By the way, www.skyracing.com.au has all the big tipsters picks from about 9am tomorrow