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3 word analysis. "Another poor game"

Mark Neeld: Melbourne will be the hardest team to play. Must be like a Billy Connolly concert ... the laughter is contagious (by 15 clubs excl Suns & Giants).

This thread is a waste. Do not keep killing players with this noose. Keep Grimes & Trengove until another "stands out". Jonesy is a leader in any case

He has been on the list 4 years. He is behind Jamar, Martin, Gawn when all fit.

He does not regularly win or dominate the ruck duels at AFL or even VFL level.

He is immobile. He does not win the ball around the ground or even impose himself on the game.

I know he's had a knee reco however he also showed very little pre-knee.

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Spencer has not shown anything pre or post his knee injury. He is immobile, lacks skills abd footy smarts. He is big (full stop).

He has had long enough. Today showed why he will be delisted at end of 2012. Move on. (give the kid a go ... please. that's the mentality that shows why we do not succeed).

Dayle Gartlett - at pick 12 !!! Rioli like

The 2 key players putting up their hands in this game ...

1. Lucas Cook - must push for a CHF/FF role in 2012 (alongside Mitch Clark)

and

2. Ben Ross, 22 (Ex Kangas) , skilful onballer who would fit into Demons team. Possible rookie for 2012. Has class and ability to get the footy. Wasest onballer in recent VFL side agst Tassie. Could not get into Kangas with Swallow, Wells, Adams, Bastinac & Ziebell ahead. Has the tools to be an AFL player.

We seem to have plenty of defenders ... and need the pace of Blease and his ability to kick a goal or two !!! Mystery why he is out again this week

Pick 3 Toumpas, 4 Wines, 12 Vlastuin as a hbf or trade it to port for Boak and then Viney at pick 22! ....

the perfect storm

more likely

Pick 3 Viney (to get the hard pill), 4 Toumpas (pace skill footy smarts)12 Gartlett (fast midfileder/small fwd wizard...Rioli like) & wait and see who is there at 24 ...likely Adam Carter, WA small defender, skilled, hard & tough who can go into the midfield ...a good get at this pick)

Lock in Viney to MFc whatever it takes

Liam is scheduled back for round 16, post our Power game ...

I have converted across and find Demonland a step up in technology and content. With over 1000 post sin ology, I am now back to a rookie Demon ... for now

Yes I have heard that Jack Viney will get the Melbourne either by the 2012 draft (95% sure), likely as pick #3 .... but there is a small echo in the halls that MFC will try to spook Suns and Giants by saying, if you want JV, then you may get him.

If we can get Jack as a 2nd round pick 24, pop the champagne. #3, #4, #12 & JV ... get it right and watch out. (No Bates, Dunne, Bells, Marics please)

BTW Pick 1 and Pick 2 - Lachie Whitfield & Brody Grundy (lock it down)

stringer in action

Slim pickings to replace the man who was 2nd in our B&F behind Nathan Jones (YTD)

It must be Stef Martin in this week.

Here is the DEMONS website review of the Casey performers

FORWARD line development coach Paul Satterley runs through the Melbourne-listed players who played for Casey against Sandringham Zebras at Trevor Barker Beach Oval on Saturday

Jamie Bennell: - Kicks 6, Handballs 8, Marks 3, Goals 1

Jamie played half-back and showed glimpses of the form that previously won him AFL selection (14 disposals and a goal). He backed his speed and skills to generate some run for Casey. Jamie should take plenty of confidence out of this effort and now build some consistency in coming weeks.

Lucas Cook: - Kicks 8, Handballs 5, Marks 3

Lucas worked hard as a key forward. His leading and movement has improved significantly with his increased fitness. Unlike previous weeks, he did not finish off his work in front of goal, kicking three behinds.

Tom Couch: - Kicks 8, Handballs 6, Marks 2, Tackles 3, Goals 1

Tom was heavily tagged again. He was made to earn every possession. Although kept quiet for most of the game, he stuck to the task and kicked the winning goal when someone had to stand up.

Troy Davis: - Kicks 9, Handballs 6, Marks 5, Tackles 1, Goals 1

Troy played on a very capable and experienced forward in Beau Wilkes, who proved difficult to negate. Troy made some important spoils and continues to improve his disposal efficiency, particularly by foot.

Jordan Gysberts: - Kicks 16, Handballs 7, Marks 1, Tackles 2

In ideal conditions for Jordan, he led the side in hard ball gets (13) and kicked two very good goals. The pleasing aspect was that he worked much better defensively which complimented his game.

Stef Martin: - Kicks 14, Handballs 7, Marks 7, Tackles 1, Goals 2

Playing as a key forward and second ruck, Stef was very physical and hit the packs hard, giving a strong contest in the air and at ground level. Stef's form in recent weeks will help boost his chances for senior selection.

Ricky Petterd: - Kicks 8, Handballs 4, Marks 2, Goals 2

Returning from injury, Ricky was very efficient with the ball and kicked two classy goals. His attack on the ball was a great example to his teammates. More importantly, he pulled up really well and now just has to get his consistency in games and build his match fitness.

Jai Sheahan: - Kicks 6, Handballs 1, Marks 2, Tackles 2

Jai was given time up forward for the first time at VFL level and competed well in the air when needed. A much improved effort on the previous game.

Jake Spencer: - Kicks 3, Handballs 3, Hit outs 29

Jake won 29 hit outs and used the ball well when he had it. His next step is to impose himself more around the ground as he is very capable in the air.

James Strauss: - Kicks 8, Handballs 10, Marks 4, Tackles 4

James improved with each quarter. He reads the game really well and his use of the ball by foot is a real strength. His running is no longer hampered by his previous injury and we can see his confidence growing week by week.

Josh Tynan: - Kicks 14, Handballs 2, Marks 6, Tackles 1

It is very clear that Josh relishes the contested ball both in the air and at ground level. He is another player who is improving form and fitness and just needs to keep doing the basics well.

Leigh Williams: - Kicks 5, Handballs 4, Marks 3, Tackles 1, Goals 1

His return to senior footy is a positive in itself. He works hard, is a very honest player who gives a contest whenever the ball is in his vicinity. Difficult conditions for the forwards, he will be better for the run.

VFL development league

Jack Fitzpatrick: - Kicks 6, Handballs 1, Marks 2, Tackles 3, Hit outs 10, Goals 2

We were pleased to have Jack playing. He was very team orientated, kicked a couple of goals and pulled up really well.

Kelvin Lawrence: - Kicks 5, Handballs 7, Tackles 5, Goals 1

Kelvin kicked a goal, chased and worked hard defensively.

Fb- J Macdonald, Sellar, T Mcdonald

Hb- Nicholson, frawley, Watts

C- blease, moloney, trengove

Hf- Sylvia, martin, howe

Ff- davey, garland, rivers

fol- jamar, grimes, jones

Int- Magner, Dunn, Mckenzie, Bate (sub)

emerg: Morton, Tapscott, Spencer

In- Martin,

Out- clark (inj)

Kelvin can get a 3rd year as an interstate rookie ... its a 50/50. There are kids in the NT like Lawrence who may be better bets. Louis Eggar or Anthony Tipuatwati

Headline: Beams to agree to Demons terms (4yrs @ $600,000 year)... easy.

Oh sorry Eddie ... over my dead body. You can lose the Queens Birthday game

Headline: Demons deal with Beams crashes after Demons board says No

Tell GWS$$$$$ to get stuffed... all clubs should say NO to any 17yo's and push them into 2013 draft. Why give GWS a boost with swapping kids they have no hold on but a right to swap

(can they prelist Martin & Hogan !!... if no one bids/offers)

Taken from some of key posters on Big Footy

Jimmy Toumpas (SA, Eagles – Mid)

Height: 183cm, Weight: 77kg,

Player comparison: Chad Wingard, Leigh Montagna

Profile: Really damaging player with some versatility. Reminds me allot of Chad Wingard. Skill level excellent by both hand and foot, has that combination of hurt factor and clean ball use that will make him a big time weapon. Consistently good decision maker. Good athlete and has that combination of speed and agility. Also has shown very early on that he can lift for the big games which is I strongly believe is something that he will take with him to AFL level. Can play as a midfielder or a forward at that stage but I like Toumpas most as an outside mid/forward at this stage because he still physically needs to develop and continue to work on that inside game.

Or

Oliver Wines (VIC, Bengo U/18s- Mid)

Height: 185cm, Weight: 83kg,

Player comparison:Andrew Swallow

Profile: Wines is a really good all rounder and a real footballer. Good ball user by both hand and foot and decision making ability also very good and chooses the right option with regularity. Excellent at reading the play and gets into the right positions. Wines is a really big ball winner and is one of the more ready to play prospects. Wins all the clearances and contested ball and is a guy you can rely on, on the inside to get the job done. He isn’t a standout athlete but his endurance is excellent and his work rate is a real selling point to his game. Wines is already very physically developed so possibly doesn’t have the upside of some of the other prospects but with Wines you have to like the way he goes about his football and with his work ethic I see him as a sure thing who can become a very productive player at the next level.

or

Nick Vlastuin (VIC< Northern Knights - Mid)

Height: 187cm, Weight: 83kg,

Player comparison: Brad Ebert, Brent Stanton

Profile: Midfielder who consistently wins the contested footy and just consistently goes harder than the next player. Big time clearance player. Skill level is exceptional, uses it well by both hand and foot and rarely makes mistakes. Particularly stands out by foot and has nice penetration. Has also been noted for leadership and really leads by example out on the field so there is allot to like. Consistently plays to a high level. Athletically not as good as other likely high end midfield choices but is still a hard runner who will work all day and demonstrates great endurance and work rate. Tackles hard and willingly works both ways. Looks like a very low risk, solid pro who is worthy of a high draft position.

or

Jake Stringer (Vic,Bendigo, Mid/Key Fwd)

Height: 192cm, Weight: 85kg,

Player comparison: Mathew Pavlich

Injured in 2011 Severe broken leg), now back trying to asert his physical ability. Talent is awesome. He starred in the TAC Cup as a 16 year old. His first three games in the TAC Cup this year were quite remarkable - 10.6 from 23 disposals, 4.6 from 20 disposals and 0.3 from 31 disposals. He is just so strong, both in marking contests and when the ball is on the ground. Hekicked 10 goals against the Knights, and was so dominant, he looked likea #2 pick behind Whitfield. He will start as a CHF marking forward, who pushes up into the midfield at times. If he does get back to 100% fitness, then I think he'll be every bit as good as Dustin Martin in the midfield, with the size to play in or outside game. Big Risk, Big Reward. Could be a future AFL captain if he is physically ready. Think Dustin Martin meets Nick Riewoldt = Mathew Pavlich like.

thoughts???

Gone: Jetta (not good enought to warrant a year out), Bennell (pace good, heart & footy smarts are non existent), Bate (just not there right now), Green (lost any pace & agility)

50/50: Fitzpatrick (he may not develop, only glimpses), Petterd (give me something Ricky)

On the very edge: Joel Macdonald, But I do like his G&D), Lynden Dunn (will need to show he is more consistent)

Possible trade: Cale Morton (to Eagles for Koby Stevens or to Sydney for Brett Meredith)

We need to cut 6, and elevate Daniel Nicholson. This gives us 5 picks in superdraft say 3,4 (Viney),12, 22, 42. The top40 are up to standard but this draft is not deep.

agreed with most comments ... Howe 9/10 for speccies and 3/10 for goalkicking so 6/10 is right. He could be anything with a grunt.

Jamar is 6/10 for me as he busts his guts, with little support.

agreed with comments, except Mitch Clark 9/10 AND Nathan Jones 9/10. Daylight to the rest ... Mckenzie next at 7/10, Magner 7/10 and Rivers 7/10. Hard to find more other passes. Jamar 6/10.

yes Scott Thompson was unlucky with injury at Demonland BUT showed glimpses especially in this 2003 year. One that got away.

My call was to consider trading Cale Morton for Koby Stevens. Vote now?

(ps. again for those with poor eyesight ... did anyone see the stoppages and clearances agst the Pies. Stop the theory, check the facts)

in: Joel Macdonald, Bartram, Tom Couch ... please no Davey nor Bennell. Give me hard at it types.

out: Morton (keep walking) & Green (inj) & Tapscott (suspended)

Rivers Sellar Bartram

J Mcd Frawley T Mcd

Blease Moloney Nicholson

Sylvia Watts Trengove

Garland Clark Howe

Jamar Grimes Jones

Dunn Magner Mckenzie Sub: Couch

Sellar was good agst the Pies and will shutdown Patton.

Blease's run is needed.