PaulRB

I wasn't just referring to the 2003 draft (which was a so-so year) but the past decade prior to Roos etc arriving. But for 2003 i'll steal from Roar... Redrafted Pick 1 (Western Bulldogs) – Adam Cooney The dogs got this pick right. In what turned out to be quite an underwhelming draft class as a whole, Cooney has had the most decorated career to date. He’s a classy midfielder who has kicked 186 goals in 219 games for the Bulldogs. Before injuries deflated him, Cooney used his pace and skills to run through the middle of the ground. He won the Brownlow Medal in 2008, beating out Simon Black by one vote. He is now donning the sash, continuing his career at the Bombers. Pick 2 (Carlton) – David Mundy Fremantle selected Mundy with the 19th pick in the 2003 draft. Since his debut in 2005, Mundy has progressively improved each season. For the past five years, he has been the heart and soul of the Dockers midfield. Mundy is an elite ball-winner, clearance machine, and a great leader for the Fremantle Dockers. He has passed the 200 game milestone and it’s quite astonishing that Mundy slipped through to the second round. Pick 3 (Melbourne) – Heath Shaw In any other redraft, Heath Shaw would not be my number three pick. However, in a draft full of quality AFL players (but not superstars), a premiership player gets an advantage over others. Shaw was selected under the father-son rule, at pick 48 by Collingwood. He played 173 games for Collingwood before crossing to GWS in 2013. Shaw will play his 200th game this season. During Collingwood’s premiership run, Shaw was one the best rebound defenders in the competition. He has pace, he’s courageous and has good balls skills. He has had his issues off-field, but Heath Shaw has generally been a good leader for both teams he’s played for. Pick 4 (Western Bulldogs) – Sam Fisher Remarkably, Sam Fisher was the 55th pick in the 2003 draft, selected by St Kilda. Fisher is a 198-game player who is a two-time best and fairest winner for the Saints. The veteran defender has provided St Kilda with run and carry in the backline for many seasons. Fisher is a reliable, courageous player who has had a rough run the past few seasons because of injury. I don’t see him winning a premiership in his career, but he did play in three grand finals, coming agonisingly close in 2010 (the first one). Pick 5 (Melbourne) – Brent Stanton Stanton was the 13th overall pick in this draft, selected by Essendon, where he has gone on to play 226 games and kicked 147 goals. Stanton has had a fairly consistent career as a hard running midfielder. Since 2006, Stanton has averaged more than 20 disposals per season. Unfortunately, he has had his moments as Essendon’s whipping boy over the years, but his consistency for the red and black cannot be denied. Pick 6 (Essendon) – Andrew Walker Walker was the second overall pick in 2003, selected by Carlton. Personally, I don’t think he has lived up to the hype of a number two pick. He had an extraordinary debut for the Blues, gathering 26 possessions, but has failed to play consistent football over his career. However, he’s played a respectable 179 games, kicking 118 goals as a versatile utility for the Blues. Walker is a quick player for his size and is a good user of the football. He should have won the Mark of The Year Award in 2011 after taking one the best marks we’ve ever seen. Pick 7 (Geelong) – Beau Waters Waters was the 11th pick, selected by West Coast in 2003. He was an incredibly courageous defender who played 120 games in 10 seasons for the Eagles. Ultimately, injuries plagued his career, forcing him to retire in 2014. He was a premiership player in 2006 (the youngest member of the team) and was West Coast’s vice captain in 2011-12. Pick 8 (St Kilda) – Troy Chaplin Chaplin was the 15th pick, selected by Port Adelaide. Chaplin played 140 games for the Power before moving to Richmond in free agency period of 2012. He’s played 187 games in total and will play his 200th later this year. Chaplin is a key defender who has performed consistently throughout his career. He is a good, solid leader of his back six and has been in the top three of the best and fairest three times. Pick 9 (North Melbourne) – Jed Adcock Jed Adcock was the 33rd pick, selected by Brisbane. Adcock has played his entire career as a running half back defender who can play quality minutes through the midfield. He has incredible kicking skills and is a courageous player. In 2013, he was the co-captain of the Lions, before becoming the sole captain in 2014. In what has been a very consistent career to date, he has played 185 games, all with the Lions. Pick 10 (Fremantle) – Ben Hudson Hudson was drafted at pick 58 by Adelaide. In 2014, he retired after playing for four clubs and 168 games. His most successful stint was at the Western Bulldogs, where we played 88 games and was a vital part of the Bulldogs’ finals run from 2008-2010. Hudson was a valuable ruckman who attacked the ball like not many other big men in the competition. He finished his career averaging 17.3 hitouts, 13 disposals and 2.2 tackles a game. A great leader on every team he played for.

The problems were with the MFC's inability to pick and develop talent not with the Draft of 2003, 2004, 2005, etc... If a problem repeats on you often enough (i.e. the bad draft), then it might be that you're the problem (and the draft is/was fine.). Compare the drafting and developing of the past year and a half with the 10 year period before, and you may start to see that it wasn't the draft of 2003 that was bust.

Viv looks ok, has a good boot, just need to make some better decisions about his ball placement. His long kick into Garlett against Rance and another Tiger worked out well, but was a bad decisions by Viv. and I think there were a couple of others.. he links up well by hand and seems to have time.

Really!? do you actually follow this club? - 2010 Colin finishes 5th in B&F with 10 Brownlow votes - MFC coached by under siege Dean Bailey finish 12th with 8 wins. - 2011 Colin finishes ?th in B&F with 10 Brownlow votes - MFC coached Sacked after Geelong fiasco, finish 13th with 8 wins. - 2012 ... we thought it couldn't get worse... new coach... happy times Colin loses interest. - 2013 ... see 2012 with another coach sacking... interim coach... Colin happy to exit at years end having once again finished 5th in B&F. I'd call that the doldrums resulting from a sub-standard MFC for many years, that endured without complaint.

He suffered the doldrums at a sub-standard MFC for many years... without complaint. I respect that. Best Wishes Col with the next phase of your life.

Interesting timing announcing his retirement in the lead up to us playing Freo...

Maybe we could rookie him? Come home Col!

Statements of the obvious kill it for me... Team A is four goals down... Commentary "Team A really need to kick the next goal!" OMG really! kills me.

He certainly helps the confidence of the mids to have him forward to bang it long to him one on one or charging a pack.

Only because he's had the misfortune of playing in a team where everyone in the twos is worse than he is. Footy is pretty simple - you play your best 22 every week unless they are injured.

How was Michie? Jack practicing his tackles, maybe a run with on Fyfe?

Talk to the tribunal... there are always differences, Chapman was actually physically touching Yarran, there are often other players also intimidating, etc...

Given the tech is there to multi-channel, Clubs should be able to put forward their own commentated audio option that targets their fans and can be both more in-depth and humourous in a way appeals to the one eyed supporter.

Given how we made off From losing Frawley in Brayshaw. And balanced losing Clark in Lamumba. I'm confident that Roos, Jackson and co have the situation well in hand.

On 360 last week, Buckley when pressed gave a more detailed summary of the Pies issues and what he does to identify and remedy them, but also was scornfull of the media, saying along the lines of "you wouldn't understand this"...

I like Grimes for Jetta Could Stretch come in for Kent? speed, skill, seems ok defensively...

Like how his re-hab being used as prototype for Petracca. hehehe

Contact high, intentional, low damage Reckon Clarko deserves at least two weeks ban for that, given his record. Similar event to Yarran, with Chapman in his face, angry winding him up... AFL bunch of hypocrites

I don't think the half-wits commentating the game have the capacity to communicate more than the coarsest details of what's become a far more subtle and complex game. Switching to vaudaville with off field comment, where again any idiot can have a coarse opinion, give them an out. Would like to see more in depth analysis of footy, tactics, trends, etc... during calls and in general.

And isn't Petracca going to come into 2016 cherry ripe and keen to go.

Was Clarko drunk too?

It's like having the Devil in your corner...

Watched the game, and there was a stat that caught my attention - 18th in competition for average Inside 50s at 42.7 (52.3) - 2nd in competition for average scores per forward entry (I couldn't find this stat online...) - ?nd in competition for average score per opposition forward entry (anyone?) If we can improve our I50s we seem to have the potency to make teams pay... means we'll only be better than midfields we can beat or break even with.

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The cupboard is empty at the Princess's park. Computer says "No"! You know nothing John Snow! You call that a knife?! I'm sorry John! There's nothing for you here! Etc...