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As regards to Fritta I thought the game against the lions was OK as for being predictable he has some lazy moments during games where if he cannot get a one on one he has a tendency no to chase if he cannot get the ball out the back he drops his head and quite frankly if it's wet he can be a liability, that's called a front runner and that's predictable, but he has talent and sometimes you you have to take the good with the bad as he can deliver all teams have these types of players and we are no exception.

And so was Leigh Matthew's 1 flag in 9 years at the pies and Malthouse at the pies.

Point proved...

Then point that out with your point of view, yes I have been guilty of that but I have always put my point of view before people jump in, I will say this if more people did that then there would be less agro we can then debate the issue or if people think a topic has been flogged before don't comment then that post will just stop a natural death. Not everyone will be happy with the club and as a forum this is a place for people to have a say right wrong or indifferent. I am a big believer if someone can put an argument forward where I can see where they are coming and they are right I can admit that, people have to have an open mind both ways.

See this is the problem, people post something about the club and instead of putting an alternative view or debate, people just have a go at them at least put something up or don't comment at all it's that simple.

I am, Kossie will never be a midfielder has not got the tank or the mindset and when under pressure his disposal is not great, kossie is an instinct player as is far mor dangerous around the goals as last week noshowed not flying for hangers just pure forward craft.

If my memory serves me correct I was talking about Kossie playing as a forward not midfield and I have explained my reasons before, not disagreeing with your other views on the subs use, I have also said the gameplan in the last quarter was shocking and that rests on the entire coaching staff.

And if my aunty had balls she would have been my uncle, but then again if you saw her.....

It's not the fitness issue It's the gameplan issue look at the last quarter 18 players all in one half no one in the front half at all, you cannot expect to have any run and carry when that happens we just bombed the ball out most of that quarter to waiting lions players and when we scored a point the lions just walked it out the backline every time, and the frustrating thing the coaches allowed it to happen instead of making changes. If you watch Casey they do the same thing it is programed that way forwards trying to be midfielders

The game is two fast for 2 umpires, imagine the media and supporters if that happens, would rather have say ten interchanges a quarter for a start.

Pretty well spot on, for Goodwin to say that amazes me, when you nearly have 18 melbourne players in one half of the ground you will never get run out of the backline and connect further up the ground because all you can do is dump kicks and they went to lions players, so are they now saying once the quarter starts the coaches cannot take stock and make changes if that's the case it's madness.

Big difference between training and a game, unfortunately you find players go back into old habits rather quickly, instead of kicking over the mark they run in an arc for extra distance, I'm more concerned with short kicks and kicks over distance as we have to many players that kick way to high instead of lower harder passes.

Oliver was a lot better but his decision making under pressure was not flash, but you have to start somewhere, hopefully things get a lot better.

Thanks will give it another go.

Then leave him the forward line full stop.

Tried watching it but to blurry has it improved.

Least it wasn't a leap....

I thought he played better by moving up the ground on leads than staying at stagnant.

As one who says his point of view I understand where you come from, I know that's a shock to read, but the problem I have with this forum is the debate issue it seems if you write something that people deed as negative it's criticised for being anti club instead of debating the issue with those people and express why they are wrong and then both sides should have an open mind about it instead it ends up a us against them attitude, and yes I have been guilty of that but more debate less attack would be helpful for discussion.

Put it bluntly poor coaching in the last quarter, allowing everyone to be in the lions front half and no one to be further back down the ground was crazy, even allowing the lions back line to virtually walk the ball out every time.

Like an old married couple.

That was my first thought....

Show me where I said you were sensitive, you said that my friend.

The effort was there no doubt and the lions are not in great form either but take away the second quarter we only kicked 3 more goals for the game.

lmfao you keep believing that whatever gets you through the day, i can keep this up all day so keep going please