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  1. he might need to develop with Sellars-Viney could give him a good start ,and then he could shape himself around Glass .

    Edit :sorry if those jokes are not your vintage.

    But if you dont like them it's probably a case of sour grapes.

    put a cork in it biff !

  2. we don't mention the person who is central to at least 6 new threads recently and continues to be mentioned in several other threads

    you could well be referring to NicNat given some of the threads on here in recent days Redleg !

  3. Todd was a really good player, but he wasn't "a gun". He was on the cusp of B grade and A grade. Hard at it, yes. Leader? Absolutely. But his kicking would often let him down, which prevented him from being a star. I'd go as far as saying we haven't had a gun mid in my life-time (I'm 25 and wasn't old enough to see Robbie Flower play). If Jack's kicking is any better than his dad's, he might go the distance.

    I reckon Todd's kicking improved a lot as his career went on

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  4. PS His goal against the Saints this year was brilliant, I haven't cheered louder for a goal this year except against the Bombers. Inside out banana on the run, jjust a crazy goal.

    Skip to 20 seconds in.

    cheers, forgot that one - what a ripper, not just the wrong-way banana but the baulk

    in fact, that whole clip makes us look like champions - the take-away from the stoppage at the start is like a dream sequence!

    back on topic, bartram has definitely played the best footy of his career this year.. let's hope this isn't the end for him

  5. He said he still doesn't feel comfortable with going back to the club, which is disappointing.

    did he say why ?

    whatever the case may be, you can't fault his honesty since hanging up the boots.. he pulled no punches in his book, and I got to admit, I was quite shocked how forthright he was in admitting that there were some matches where he could hardly concentrate and the only thing on his mind was the punt

    pretty much agree with MaldonBoy too - Schwarz is one of the best i have ever seen (I still wear no.5 on my back) and I think he was on his way to Carey-esque heights when he did his knee.

    anyone who doubts this need only watch his last three pre-knee matches (leaving aside the WC loss over there which finished our '94 season). he booted 9.0 against Sydney at the SCG in round 22, turned the first final around against the Blues a week later, and then helped Garry demolish the Dogs the following week with an exhilerating game in the semi

  6. A few random standouts for me:

    * Darren Bennett kicking a bag at Windy Hill one day as we came back from 34 points down midway through the final quarter to roll them by 8 points

    * Garry's game-winning goal against WCE in the 88 Elimination Final

    * Garry's massive torp two weeks later against the Blues in the Prelim. Well inside the centre square at Waverley, a ground considerably longer than the 'G

    * Schwarz's hat-trick of magic in late '94, starting with 9.0 against the Swans at the SCG, followed up by the blind turn out of the ruck against the Blues in the first final, and then his swashbuckling game against the Dogs a week later, an effort bested only by Garry's 10-goal haul the same day.

    * Jakovich's bag of 8 against the Dons in the Elimination Final out at Waverley

    * For some reason I still remember Brent Heaver's (!) five-goal haul on debut against the Blues (pretty sure it was a public holiday...)

  7. If you don't find issue with it, that is fine.

    I take issue with the laziness that has crept into journalism and the faux pas of having unattributed, unverified quotes in the paper isn't a big thing in this instance (of course it isn't, it's an article on Cale Morton...) but in a larger sense of the standards of news articles today.

    Just one thing - if we are now comparing newspaper articles to talk back radio, is that not proof of declining standards?

    without getting into a debate on media standards (and yes I do think they are on the slippery slope) i wasn't really comparing talkback radio to print journalism. they are different beasts.

    i do think it's valid, however, to use talkback radio as a measure of public opinion, and the same would go for this forum.. it's not unreasonable to say - and not uncommon to see - sentences such as "talkback callers flooded the airwaves to call for coach x' sacking or rule y to be changed"..

    that doesn't make it an accurate reflection of community sentiment, just a selection of the views that are out there

  8. It was Robbie57, but that's the next question - Hanlon doesn't know who he is, or whether he is genuine.

    whether he's a genuine what? poster? what's the alternative? that he's an automated bot that produces opinions on cale morton ?

    It is laughable that you can have an unattributed quote from an anonymous poster on an internet forum, in The Age.

    no it's not. in the context, the poster's identity is irrelevant to the story. the only qualification is that the poster be a melbourne supporter with an opinion. it makes no difference whether robbie57 is a 14-y.o girl or a 73 y.o grandfather

    if - for example - the forum was comprised only of former melbourne players, then you'd have an argument for unmasking the poster's identity. if the journo wrote "a former player has demanded mark neeld be sacked" the public would rightly be curious whether it was a recent player, or a premiership champion, or someone who's always been embittered etc etc. but in thist context it doesn't matter diddly squat whether robbie 57 is arthur or martha, they're a melbourne supporter with an opinion

    really don't know why you're making such a song and dance about attribution and identity. if talkback is flooded with callers baying for neeld's blood does it really matter whether its kevin from sunshine who's on the phone or ivan from ivanhoe?

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