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Broken sounds bad but maybe hairline which I suspect given they plan to miss 1 week with him.

I Agree. They Will win the minor premiership (I assume thats what you mean). Because the Dees best, the Tiges best, the Blues best (with full defensive unit) and even Freo will address the Cats weaknesses in the finals on a larger ground. Again. Dees were within a goal with 10 minutes to play and with poor performances and structure . The Lions win tells me we still have it, just that its got to come together perfectly. And Hawkins/Cameron can be managed.

Nailed it bitter. I saw the lions game live and the dees were awesome that day only 2 weeks ago. We had 5 day break and they had a bye last week. Cats will be dealt with in september on the G when tables are even

Not just Salem's return. Bowey coming in and grabbing his chance was an issue also. Bowey's elite kicking and decision-making ability puts him ahead of Rivers for now in defence.

Not really. The uprade has for years sucked out available state grants from geelong in other areas. The new library just completed . The arts precinct only now being rebuilt. Yet down the road for a lousy 9 times a year for less than capacity crowds in nearly all games all the main capex money was spent on a ground that is the wrong shape anyway years earlier than many needed projects. Btw find 60 dollars if you want a seat. This club is elitist and most geelong people don't or can't afford to attend.

Yes and the ground is 30 metres narrower than the G and other grounds. Therein lies the problem. Lack of planning foresight at the time lost the opportunity to make the ground an afl dimension. It could have been achieved but the simple route was taken.

Part of a defensive group that had the 4th highest ever intercept mark or intercepts for a single game (I think). Lever played a minor role but was part of the group nevertheless

His most memorable was in the Gf when he gave jack McCrae a friendly (and probably) sympathetic pat after Trac had nailed him for holding the ball. Seemed like it was a kind of 'No hard feelings mate.." probaly around the time of his 36th possie for that game. Clarry's on Saturday was a class act IMO.

Pass that on to most SEN staff, Whately especially, w.r.t AFL criticism. Never bite the hand that feeds you is on Hutchy's office wall I suspect.

Absolutely it is given the ground is around 30 metres narrower than the G. The Cats win, then the issue will be we'll get them next time at the G. Which we will. AFL seems to favour crowd maximisation in finals w.r.t using the Cats home ground.. The Cats ground will be still under construction this finals series so I doubt even a Cat v Freo final would be played there.

Sorry , my mistake on Riccuito. Thanks. Its his role as a Crows Board member commentating. In what universe is this acceptable?

You describe Oliver in every one of his games. And he did sort his goal kicking out when it counted - 30 secs to go in the GF third quarter (although he did say later the kick was a bit of a floater) Last night highlighted for me why Oliver, and Trac, last year, got 7 year deals and wer'e just so lucky to have them. If Luke jackson moves on then its for a whole lot of reasons the Dees were never going to have an answer for , like familiy, and he is yet to deserve their treatment deal wise, and would be based on potential upside, so I'll just sit back and enjoy Clarry and Trac and rest of team weave their magic till 2030 and wish Luke the best.

I'm with you big time Superunknown, and did the same. But secondly, the other turn-off was the Commentary. Why does Ch 7 persisit with a Crows Football Director as a special comments boundary rider in Riccuito.? Useless. Huddo, and the sheer brilliance of Clarry and Trac and team were the only worthwhile resason to watch live. I caught up the second half replay later. Bring on streaming, more kayo quality shows, etc etc. ...and so long Ch 7. They are so down-market and immature in their talent (except Daisy of course) Another poster on here noted the quality of umpiring was tops in the GF last year. It was , and gee it shows the gaps betwen the best the AFL has in this department and the others that are making up the numbers.

I like Garry Lyon's approach. He says Oliver is the best Dees midfielder he has seen. I agree for sure. Clarry and Flower are incomparable in each of their positions and roles. As to which one is better - its an academic exercise , like comparing a ruckman and rover. Individually I think Flower was the more damaging and inspirational esp. given his slight frame. His prefromances in the Big V were a thing of beauty. But blessed to have seen them both for their full careers.

Or unless some papers need signing and witnessing by Manager and this can't be done electronically. (although these days counterparts can be signed remotely. Maybe its the theatre of the thing?

Why? List mgt is across the club as a whole and do you thinl the Boatd will approve a deal overpaying oliver and not leaving enough for others. That's the path to mediocrity. We dont know the money clarry is on nor the contract payment timing. Neither does the media. Why won't the club and team take collectively less for the sake of a once in a lifetime dynasty? . A la the Cats. I think they will. Luke included.

No comparison with Grundy as you point out. Franklin and Martin are the closet examples to type for Oliver. In additon, there's a large number of A graders of similiar age within the team and this simply locks away the multiple building blocks for sustained success with all those players spending their careers together. That's a powerful weapon re: team unity. very difficult to put a value on this, but the usual commentary for GF success is the number of players that have played say, 100 games up to a young age say, early 20's. In other words the Dees demographic now in place. Oliver is just an outlier by a couple of years. Grundy was just another poor decision by the Pies. Dees fans to enjoy the next 6 years.

Good call . Its a whole-of club issue list mngt. and the costs thereof. If you don't you get a debacle like at the Pies under Eddie, having to offload club stalwarts. And still paying the price.

Does anyone watch Footy Classified now? Panel members past their 'use by' dates. Eddies on because his company makes the program so another channel to gets his head on TV and have a megahorn available. Then home to Toorak at evenings end. Lyon tipped Doggies in the 2021 GF. Caro now a shadow of her former self as a journo and 'newsbreaker'. - pretty much lowest common denominator stuff from her - cue the Saints beat up this week. Matthew Lloyd the only worthwhile member. And i do have time for Kane Cornes, but he's also cleverly deveopled a controversial personna to foster clickbait so good luck to him. And Iv'e discovered 'On the Couch ' which does me very well thanks. So long Channel 9 and thanks for all the fish.

In Lamb I trust. ( plus plenty others at the club)

Post of the week. Well done BD.

I like this possibility. Young Brayshaw is a gun and will be for 10 years. Sure wer'e exposed losing Jackson, but would Freo trade out their next skipper?

The Blues invented rorting in the 80's being the John Elliott legacy and nicely handed over the batten to the club in 2000's via Judd's alledged $200K Environmental ambassadorship with Visy. Could be a clue.

Lloyd was the only sensible voice on that show re: this issue and sees it from a champion players perspective. Its a distraction to Dees fans, as was Hogan, but after the Hogan saga, I'm immmune now to this and what will be will be. Hogan was a 'great hope' for the club. Now we have a team full of them, not to mention the top shelf coaching panel. In terms of the once in a generation sweet spot we have (under 30ish)... Oliver, Trac, Viney, lever, salem, Fritsch, Sparrow, Brayshaw, Petty, Pickett, Spargo, ANB, Langdon etc. Plus the young latent talent pool yet to break into the side. Plus Goodwin, Yze.... Good luck to Jacko no matter what he does.

I'm with you on this SWYL. Brown was a presence around the ground and this debate reminded me of why I like G Lyon as a commentator. He progosticates on what he sees in front of him, with insight as a former great player with a feel for the game, as opposed to say David King who seems to trawl through stats to then come up with a point to make or a theory. Make the facts fit the reality maybe?. No better was this illustrated than the Cats V Tiges call on Saturday, when Lyon smartly called for what the Tiges needed to stem the bleeding, including the move of Baker into the thick of it, and behold it and a few other moves were made by Hardwick. Not a stat quoted by Lyon, just this was how he saw the game strategically. I'm not comparing you SWYL to Lyon btw, just noting similiar appoaches in these instances. Admittedly I'm a big fan of Brown after the fianls series last year, and I think he gets a bad wrap when the ball is dropped on his head and he has trouble. He stays in for the medium term IMO