Demon17

I used the AFL ladder Predictor.....and we will finish... 5th

The ladder predictor assumes things SHOUL happen like Tiges beating Port in Darwin, Freo beating Saints in Perth etc.

Use any system OTHER than the ladder predictor - great fun though to dream with.

SCENES FROM THE ROOMS by Whispering Jack

Excellent piece of writing.

Pity about the winning margin tip though.

There were good signs of Urgency, not sen before from Morton, why not?

I feel Morton will never 'look' urgent , he just donen't have that demeanour on field, and we shouldn't demand it from him. He seemed to be everywhere on Friday, and a channel in the last quarter in a number of link plays, winning one-on-ones and backing back for the contest.

I think he has it, and consistency will show eventually.

Our kids are getting there.

It's the Daniher leftovers that are not doing much...

It's not laughable. It made perfect sense to drop him from it, and if you asked him he'd more than likely agree...

It's irrelevant.

I was refering to the whole concept of contrived leadership groups being 'luaghable'. They exist or they don't and membership is not a function of a group vote - its a natuarl thing - ask Kevin Rudd!

Beamer is in it and will be for the foreseeable future IMO

The 1/2 time vison on TV showed Brent Moloney revving up the team, purposeful and intense - sort of " the game's not over boys" type of approach.

Has someone forgotten to tell him he's not in the group? This situation is laughable - he IS the leadership group - with some great backup by example from Trengove, Sylvia, Tapscott etc.

They did mention they adding additional channels to be able to run the required matches live.

I'm just glad I don't have to watch channel 7 for footy anymore from 2012.......they suck in my book!

Is it only me, or are others sad if Huddo doesn't get a gig on 7 or Foxtel. If he goes to Foxtel I'll sign up with them. He's the best caller by far IMO

You won't get yelled at by me, as you are another person reinforcing exactly what I was saying. I hadn't actually heard about Collingw@*ds no comment re the RSL, but that just adds more to what I was hoping people would get from this discussion. And yes, my grandfather is appalled by this state of affairs. And so are a couple of his mates he served at New Guinea with.

It was a really well written and interesting article BTW.

Good Job to get it up on the AFL site

I didn't find much food for thought in the article, and some of the comments here are hard to understand and even harder to stomach.

No, ANZAC Day is being exploited by the AFL and the MSM to make this match a contrived 'blockbuster' spectacle, complete with all the language and imagery of bravery and sacrifice. Take ANZAC out of the match and it's just a cash cow, another fixed part of the 'fixture', and it's time the cow was shared around or its profits shared around.

I feel compelled to support LH in this.

The concept of an 'Anzac' medal is ridiculous, added to the contrived linkages by pseudo-historical comments we hear from M. Malthouse each year(I don't know which history he is reading) combined with the lack of opportunity to players of other clubs all adds up to a general unfairness embedded in the whole process.

Collingwood were formally asked recently for the amount of funds from this 'event' channelled into the RSL - no comment was the reply.

Before I get yelled at, my Grandfather survived gallipoli and France and my father survived the Pacific. They would be appalled at this state of affairs.

which is exactly why Dean Bailey may be a better Assistant Coach going forward. People are suited to different jobs.

Moloney was publicly shamed..i think that was even tougher than a suspension.

And in the very next game , IMO, he carried the team. The sign of a class act I reckon.

Good decisons all round. Don't compare this incident to others - I don't remember him belting anyone.

Except harder, smarter, a better defender, a better reader of the play and a better leader. But apart from that, he is exactly like Bruce

I disagree on at least 3 of the 5 charatceristics you nominate. You figure it out.

Accepting mediocre skills on any player will just keep on costing us when it counts.

Grimes - the new Bruce

I was thinking the same during the game.

Wev'e swapped one poor kick for another, execpt grimes errors are now costing more.

How do you get a game in AFL not being able to consistently hit targets.

Well how does everyone rate our team at the moment?

So far I would say its unimpressive, with lots of room for improvement.

Malthouse said last week we are playing as if its April - in other words its a long season, a young team and they will gell togther - as they did late in the season last year.

We can't be racing out of the blocks at this time, nor should we , if we want to be there at the end. That said, after today we will be 2 wins and a draw going into the bye. I'd take that any time.

Herald Sun

I wonder what the rumblings are he talks of, and who they are?

Yet another example of the media industry, composed of hacks and ghost writers attemtping to justify their existence.

1400 accredited journo-types with the AFL produces crap like this everyday.

Crawford was great player - let's leave it there.

We can beat the Dees, says Ablett

PUTTING together four good quarters of football is all that stands between the Gold Coast Suns and its first win in the AFL this Sunday.

That is the mindset of Gold Coast Suns skipper Gary Ablett heading into this weekend's fixture against the Melbourne at the Gabba.

Ablett is a confident of a win against the Demons but that came with a disclaimer.

As they say in the classics

"he would say that, wouldn't he"

My son reckons Jurrah might be good for 10 this week!

I liked the promise he showed early in his career. Then came the injuries, then last years pre-season I watched him drop marks and look completely unco and pretty much put a line through him.

He's been the big improver so far, very happy with his agility and he puts in an honest contest to relieve Jamar.

Seems to be someone come from nowhere each year.

After what Jamar has done, it gives me hope than anyone can suddenly click and get moving. Stef is on his way, I wonder if Newton can do the same?

Great point about his agility. he actually bends down for the ball and can play many positions. A great improver. I used to be mortified when Jamar came off - not so worried now, and allows Jamar to take the odd speckie down forward.(If only he could kick a bit straighter)

I have to say I have some sympathy with this view. These FM radio stations get away with murder these days with their encouragement of muck raking and gossip mongering.

Chuck enough mud and some is bound to stick. Moloney will now be referred to as "that bloke that peed on the bar" by any number of ignoramuses who couldn't focus their short attention spans on the truth of the story as it unfolded.

There's a whiff of character assassination about it in my opinion and tossbags like Eddie McGuire and his station head mates are directly to blame, you are right.

The winner here is the MFC. Handled with class, including Beamers press conf comments and will now move on, a lesson learned and continuation of solid standards at the club.

Has anyone considered poor Eddie. Now at a low rating FM station, predictable show, up at 4.00am while most of us are tucked up in bed and wondering everyone moring ..."How did I end up here?"....

Move the goalposts so even if we do well, we won't have done well enough...

Classic Melbourne supporter behaviour...

Well spoken RPFC.

I remeber last week many of us clapped them off at 1/2 time after the display in that 2nd quarter.

How quickly we forget. This team is now being carried by Brad Green, close to 30, and lot of highly talented 19-22 year olds who are the future. Give them a break and any belting of Brisbane will be good but just a step on the journey this year.

If we go 6 points after Round 3 that'll be great no matter how it works.

Hasn't anyone considered the draw with Swans was maybe a better effort than first thought after they came back and beat the glamour team bombers?

You say Watts worries you and then praise Grimes for standing up in beltings. Im not trying to knock Grimes but his kicking out was a disgrace in the first quarter and general kicking was pretty average on Sunday.

Spot on. I'm rapt to see Grimes away from the back half- way too risky to pinpoint targets, but great reader of the play and should be better suited to midfield. Mistakes by foot may cost us less there.

No - you are wrong. Watts did some good things today. Several contested marks, blocks for teammates, clever handballs. Was not dominant at all but was useful. People love to hate Jack Watts but if you watch the game properly you'll see he is a valuable player and improving each week. All those who criticise Watts endlessly whenever he gets near it suffer from overexpectation of a 19 yr old and a lack of understanding of his role in the team. He is not a traditional key forward and that frustrates you, but support him he will be a star.

Agree. Watching him around the ground and in close at times showed yesterday he has football 'Nous". The gerat play with Sylvia running wide in the 3rd 1/4 started from a clever tap from Watts to a running player in the clear. Time is needed and he is frustrating but geez. he's 19 and played maybe 16 games

Check injury list.

Lucky for that. Goodes cleaned him up last year in our 73 point win.

Such a logical post should see you banned from this site

When they start playing pre-season games at the MCG and we have such similar results I may start to show some concern.

The whole game will change as soon as the season starts, quarters are longer and there are 25% less players available to rotate - 21 + sub from 24 + 2 subs.

Frawley out of our defence shifts the whole make up both defensively and offensively and proves that with Jamar he is our most integral player.

I will hold fire until round 5 and then see where we're at.

Well summed up.

Where were we this time last year?

Oh thats's right - Jurrah had just done his shoulder for 16 weeks and Frawley was yet to be discovered as an AA for the next season.

Positive: NO INJURIES

Rememeber this time last year: Jurrah out for 16 weeks?

Count our blessings - we had a seconds team in. Those not in didn't need to show anything to the coach IMO

Dont see anything wrong with it really. As if what Robbo says will rock the club...

Relevancy deprivation?

I wonder if he will be always falling over in a contest at St. Joeys in Geelong too?

That is such a ridiculous post, we had plenty out last week and today AS IS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE POST EARLIER IN THE THREAD we were missing 11 of our 22

What happened today is of zero importance

Absolutley.

I went to the Essendon game and we were 8 points down at the 5 minute mark of the final 1/4 FGS.

Gave them 3 goasl start and caught them, and they got out to 30 points ahead - and caught them again.

Let's not get too excited.

What did I learn from the game?

Trengove will be a champ again this year.