Toorak

I'm on it! Same margin paying $2 on iasbet, which is where I choose to lose money!

Oh, and I should have read your last line before clicking!!

GO DEES!

well it looked like a good bet but I didn't allow for the umpire factor.

The dees are getting a 5 goal start with the TAB.

Paying $1.90, sounds like a good bet to me!

Remember to gamble responsibly.

I don't think Cheney is playing a bad game at all. got to admire his persistence and willingness to fill in when required and go back to the 2s uncomplaining. Wish others with more talent had such commitment and lack of ego.

who says he's not complaining!

Would Kyle Cheney make the run on team with the Dees?

It astounds me how Hawthorn rate him. Looking at his current form it was a good move cutting him from our list.

Preach and rejoice my brother but leave my dunny out of the sermon

have you noticed the improvement of Dunn since he removed the moustache.

I'm looking forward to when we play the bombers in two weeks.

Judging from what I've seen tonight we'll smash them.

This game is a footy mistake fest. Talk about clangers.

I'm just stoked that we are now competitive against just about every team.

It's only a matter of time until they knock off a top eight side.

Bring on the pies.

6. Pedersen

5. Dunn

4. Vince

3. Cross

2. N. jones

1. Jetta

I agree with your order except I'd give 1 point to Viney instead Jetta.

Pedo is red hot today....don't you love it?

I thought Grimes was better.

Go boys

Umps are doing us no favours.

You mean the first 1/8 was poor but the second 1/8 was OK.

Yeah were on the board

This is quite an easy answer. Whoever Paul Roos selects.

He's led the club revival so I would respect his opinion over anyone else.

Not convinced Port are the real deal. Playing great footy at the moment at the portress but like every other team they will find it hard to maintain their current form.

We need to play ugly footy and we may be a chance. Roos certainly knows how to make a team play ugly.

Dees by 3.

At least from Scully's perspective he'll have enough cash to cover that pathetic "wrestle." (Are players still fined for wrestling?)

Tiges go from 6.18 to 14.2 in consecutive weeks.

I'm really enjoying watching Scully play in this game. I reckon he couldn't care less because it's not about winning it's all about the $$$$.

If it wasn't for Viney we may have lost that one.

This is the best i've seen Watts play.

It's got nothing to do with the Viney's actions it's the result of his action (broken jaw) even though it was fair.

This is clearly wrong but that's their interpretation.

Today hopefully showed just how useless Jordie McKenzie is as a player when not used 'specifically' as a tight tagger.

I watched him closely today play on a few different players and I will tell you now, we may as well have had 17 blokes on the field. He has absolutely no offensive mindset. No willingness or belief to get the footy himself and make the right decision and if people are going to argue the point of 'playing within your limitations' well then [censored] me we're never going to get anywhere as a side with players like him who do not have the ability to play at this level.

The same goes with Spencer, Pederson, Matt Jones, Evans, Bail, Georgiou.

And unless we address our complete lack of kicking skills, we're also not going anywhere fast anytime soon. Kicking out from our backline is a [censored] nightmare. We have no elite users. So nobody has the confidence to pinpoint a pass. Not only that, but Spencer has zero marking ability and clearly he even knows it as time and time again he just refused to present at kick ins.

It's honestly comicalto watch the MFC at times. We can be so poor. We still have so many completely unskilled players who literally kill us on game day. Even players who I admire for their tenacity and commitment like Terlich and McDonald were woeful with their disposal today. How many bad kickers can one side have?

It's disgusting.

Your observations are spot on but lets look at the positives. Roos is doing an incredible job considering there is so much dead wood in the side.

Only early but Saints leading West Coast. At Paterson's. Last week West Coast were up by 6 goals against us at the same time.

FML we are so far behind.

obviously we softened them up last week!

Watts is not suited to playing a body contact sport. He frustrates the hell out me.

He is so soft and continually gets bullyed off the ball.

I've finally concluded that we have the right game plan and the team shouldn't be criticised for their lack of effort.

What the team is lacking is skill and until such time as they start recruiting players like Dangerfield things are not going to turn around.