Bobby McKenzie

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Thanks for the info 'Rogue'. More members than I thought.

There appears to be new posters every day in recent times on our forum. Can one of our moderators or ANYBODY tell us how many exist right at this paticular time? Looks like it could be quite a healthy number. Thank you in anticipation.

I could have done a lot worse than to have barracked for Melbourne all my life. Like most of you I think " When are we ever going to win another premiership?" Then, to cheer myself up, I have listed premierships won in MY LIFETIME and the Dees haven't done too badly. Here they are: CARLTON 11, ESSENDON 10, MELBOURNE 10, HAWTHORN 9, RICHMOND 6, GEELONG 4, NORTH MELB. 4, COLLINGWOOD 3, WEST COAST 3, BRISBANE(FITZROY) 3, ADELAIDE 2, PORT ADELAIDE 1, WESTERN BULLDOGS 1, ST KILDA 1,SOUTH MELBOURNE (SYDNEY) 1, FREMANTLE 0. As you can see only Carlton have done better than the mighty demons. Doesn't it do your heart good too to see Collingwood featuring so low on the list. I made the right choice don't you reckon?

I thought i would copy and paste an interesting thread i found on demonology from a user called socrates.

I found it very interesting and just proves we have to be patient , it takes time.

Very interesting and encouraging article. Thanks 'mousey'.

Goodbye to..

Brock McLean - absolute clown with no skills or awareness. But what else do you expect from an alcoholic with anger issues

Cameron Bruce - an embarrassmant to the MFC. Pea-heart. Stealing the clubs money

Jeff White - the emergence of Paul Johnson has made this guy expendable. PJ/Meesen should be the ruck combo

Brad Miller - no explanation required

Russell Robertson - the Demons are clearly interfering with his crappy little TV show. By the way, you cant sing for [censored] buddy

If these 5 clowns are wearing Demin colours next week then I am done. DONE.

Let us sincerely hope that ALL FIVE will be playing AND YOU WILL BE DONE AND LEAVE THIS LITTLE FORUM FOR GOOD. Get with any team that's flying mate.

YM i would say you are an embarrassment to the MFC with a comment like that. I'm actually getting sick of you bagging this guy like he was the worst thing that ever happened to the club. I couldn't agree more with 'dees rule 4eva' as he comments some up Bruces day very well. Last week i can understand that he played poorly but for you a comment like he is an embarrassmant to the MFC on this weeks performance appalls me, it just shows how clueless you knowledge of the game is. I'm sorry if im having a go at you but i think you are going to far with this Cam Bruce issue.

Well spoken 'Addam Magic'. YM is over the top with his CONSTANT criticism of Bruce. Negative as always and non constuctive. I really wonder if he has ever pulled on a footy boot. He is quite clueless. The original bagger. I bet Brad Johnson has a higher opininion of Cam. He has belted Johnson twice in their last two encounters.

Out - BRUCE - absolutely no two ways about it, must be the first one gone, Miller, McLean, White, Robertson, Garland, Wheatley, Weetra, Green, Bode, Davey (inj)

In - Rivers, Whelan, Petterd, Maric, Holland, Meesen, Bate, Frawley, Moloney, Newton, Martin

B - Whelan Carroll Frawley

HB - Bell Holland Rivers

C - Jones Moloney Morton

HF - Dunn Neitz Bate

F - Maric Sylvia Newton

R - P.Johnson McDonald Bartram

I/C - Martin Meesen Buckley Petterd

What absolute [censored] about Bruce. Did you go to the game? You are paranoid mate. GO and barrack for someone else. You have NO LOYALTY at all. King KNOCKER!

Are you kidding me. I thought he played a descant game on B.Johnson today. in the first half he kept he pretty quiet.

Yes 'Addam Magic" Bruce kept the dangerous Johnson very quiet and yet Yze Magic with his intense hatred for Cam wants him to be the first to go! THANK GOD HE IS NOT A SELECTOR! He would have to be the greatest knocker of our Melbourne team.

I may as just copy what i said in another thread on the matter:

"To be honest, I'm fed up with demonlanders around here continuously bagging fantastic servants of the MFC such as Green, Bruce and White. Firstly, Green and Bruce are blokes that give 100% in every game that they're involved in...to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. They are not and have not ever been superstars, but all our supporters seem to blame them for everything that goes wrong around this club! Brad Green is a good kick, someone who puts his body on the line for the team, but he is not an exceptional athlete and he does not know how to find the ball like a Scotty West. He does NOT have exceptional talent and he gets the most out of himself as a footballer. What more can we ask of him than that?

As for Bruce he is clearly playing injured and has done for the last few years. Bruce is a midfielder and he needs to be played in the midfield! Makes sense doesnt it? Bruce would be in the top echelon of distance runners at our club... when he's fit we need to put him on the ball and let him run opposition players off their feet. Everyone here has got to understand that Bruce is recognised by the playing group as a leader of this club, someone who gives his all every week and is one of our best players.

Everyone around here is saying its curtains for Jeff White. Am I the only one to think he wasnt that bad yesterday? He got 28 hitouts! and we drew level in clearances..not a bad effort for a ruckman considering we got flogged. Sure his input around the ground was below par...no denying that...but one of the reasons for this was that we never got our game going! A ruckman's job is not to get his own ball but to provide a target and in his case be a link man. He had a bad game but in the context of his career and his last few years for the dees it was an aberration. Jeff White has been a great servant for us...he has played over 100 games in a row (an outstanding effort for a ruckman), and just recently i read on this site that he was considered by another afl player to be the 2nd best ruckman in the comp behind cox. And we are saying its time for him to retire? Are we serious? Good idea guys lets give Jamar another go because he has clearly shown to be of afl standard. Jeff White could easily play 5 more years as a second ruckman!!!!"

Well said demonattack. Everything you have said is absolutely true.

Let's go back to 2000. In round 13 Carlton flogged us by 98 points. The following week we bounced back to thrash Collingwood by 65 points. We went on to even beat the Eagles by 70 points at SUBIACO in the last round of the season. In our finals encounter with Carlton we got up to win by 9 points. Not a bad turnaround. (About 118 points). Footy has always been a week to week prospect. Let's not get too bogged down in our gloom.

Every time Carroll was near the ball or had it i was [censored] myself.

And Bruce, GET OFF HIS BACK it was one bad performance this year. If he performs like this on a consistent basis then you bag him. but its only round 1, the teams playing poorly not just Bruce.

I'm glad someone else can see that Bruce is being made a scapegoat. Interesting that YZE MAGIC didn't bag his namesake. Adem was pretty ordinary, but as you have stated it is only round ONE!

Wrong.

Plenty of players deserve to be called pansies, and we have more than any other club.

If I had clocked up over 160 AFL games, I guarantee you that at least once I would have out my body on the line or performed a heroic act to inspire the team.

yes, I remember the final vs Carlton in 2000. Bruce kicked some soft goals to help us over the line. That was 8 years ago.

You still haven't answered my ORIGINAL question! Check back.

That was terrible, that game.

Now move on.

First home game, against the doggies next week.

Four or five more players from our best 22 available.

Coaches get to act on a serious reality check.

We are at the bottom of the curve, now we start upwards.

Good for you Distance Demon! You obviously are not a fairweather supporter like quite a lot of our posters here.

Im sorry, but I dont count being a reciever while your team is up and running as being brilliant.

Bruce is a frontrunner of the highest order. When we are going well he is the first one hanging out the side waiting for an easy kick, trying to pad his stats and cover himself in glory

When we are struggling, he is nowhere to be seen. He would be in the top 3 highest paid players at the club. An absolute joke.

YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY ORIGINAL QUESTION! NO AFL player deserves to be called a'pansy'. Would you get a few kicks if you were out there playing? Or would you be just a little soft? Things were not going well when Bruce and Green knocked Carlton out of the finals in 2000. REMEMBER?

I can remember more brilliant games by Jones then brilliant games by Bruce.

There aren't any that are brilliant every week. I was just making a point. Bruce has been insignifcant since mid-2006. You're saying he's a quality player. Justify that. My point is, if a player that hasn't been brilliant in over a season can be called a "quality player", what would you classify a player that has been great the past year or so.

I would call him a QUALITY player! What exactly is your point here? Let us watch Bruce's form this season and one of us will be proved right. QED.

Sorry for "Debated" lol And to think I'm a professional writing major.

Anyway. By your logic, any player who plays a few brilliant games for is automatically clasified as a high quality player. What exactly would you classify a player who has a brilliant game every week?

I can remember. In fact, if not for Bruce, we wouldn't of played in the 2000 GF. It's sad that you cannot admit how overrated he is.

Not a FEW brilliant games but MANY brilliant ones. Do you happen to know any player who is brilliant EVERY week? Name a few if you can!

If I had been in the rooms i would have told Newton what a soft hack he was today without a shadow of a doubt

REALLY??

Debated finished!

Not Quite mate! It is sad when you cannot remember all the brilliant games Bruce has played for Melbourne.

I have had enough of this pretender. The usual crap from him today. Soft, crap skills, junktime possessions.

He has a heart the size of a pea. He would be on about $400,000 a year. An absolute joke and boy does it get my blood boiling that this pansy can make so much, and not give a stuff about the jumper.

Whoever said he should be next Captain, please put ypur hand up in this thread. What the hell were you thinking?

WHY DON"T YOU SAY THAT TO HIS FACE TOUGH GUY? Get off his back. He's a quality player whether YOU like it or not!

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Thanks 'CHAMP'. Much appreciated.

I get the same thing. Sometimes it finished on that, sometimes it takes a few seconds to load. Believe me, that first appearence is better then what you're subjected to when it fully loads. How embarrassing.

I'm having the same problems! Can ANYONE tell me how I can get live scores. It was very straight forward last season. Thanks ANYONE.

Don't care about the almanac much, but the stickers are awesome!

Every year I complain about the crap quality and general ugliness of the stickers, but this year they are definitely worth the wait. 2 of the 4 stickers are now proudly displayed on my car :D

H.B.K, as we don't pick up our gifts until Round 1 (you are obviously a country/ interstate member), can you tell me whether the club logo on the tie is embroidered or printed?

Jaded, I received my tie yesterday (Interstate member). The club logo is PRINTED onto the tie. Enjoy your season. I always find time to read your thoughtful and SENSIBLE comments.

No use quibbling over the 15m penalty. It was legitimate. There was only a split second between when the siren went and Stynes running through the mark. And if there was anyone i'd want kicking for goal from 50m, it was Buckenara. We had 4 players miss from within 30 metres in the last quarter. That's where it was lost.

Can't agree about the split second bit mo64 unless my video tape is out of sync. More like a split MINUTE.

it seems every MFC supporter was there that day, my family and I were there also but we were at the end right near the Grinter free. It was a free , but heres the thing I can never understand.

Jim Stynes ran across the mark , but that free then fell under the time wasting rule. My question is HOW CAN JIM STYNES WASTE TIME WHEN THE SIREN HAD GONE AND TIME WAS SUSPENDED WITH ONLY A KICK TO COME????????

How can you waste something that was not being counted???????

Spot on '849dennisj'! I have watched the video many times and the umpires not only missed hearing the siren once but failed to hear it the second time. It was loud enough! There should never have been the situation where a 15 metre penalty was on. The ball was dead with a shot for goal the only option.

Top 50

No Robbie Flower, and putting Ben Cousins in the list oh well yeah discuss.

Sheahan includes oldies like the Coventrys, Haydn Bunton, Jack Mueller, Jack Dyer and others. Surely he could have judged them only on hearsay as he would not have seen them play. He should have only named the players HE has seen in action. The list could then be called The Top 50 players of MY TIME. Barassi is far far too low on his list. He should have been up there with Whitten 3 or 4. John Coleman too is far too low on the list.