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He’s been nothing short of excellent. One of the best players out there so far.

Pretty sure Huddo just meant he looked like Green. As in his face. Not comparing him as a player,

He’s wrong though. We’ll make the 8. May just sneak in but we’ll be there.

The summation of his reasoning is that he doesn’t trust the team yet. And ultimately that’s fair enough. Trust needs to be earned. It hasn’t been earned yet.

T Mac slotting set shots like they was nothing made it worth watching.

Tongue in cheek mate. It’s defnitely a good trend. I’m still bitter though. I’m yet to meet a Tigers supporter whose company I enjoyed. I’m sure they exist. I just haven’t met one yet.

Richmond winning the flag has cheapened the whole thing for me. I’ll be appeased If we win the flag and knock Richmond out of the finals series every year for the next five years.

The Chunky Tulips are back in season 2018 to wreak havoc and shatter dreams.

Six you must have the best post to like ratio ever.

Bumping for any other ball shiners.

The aftermath of the camp was summed up in the concluding comments. The best way to show the players aren’t mentally soft is to demonstrate it on the field. Max himself acknowledged this was true.

This is a point worth reiterating as it often gets overlooked in these discussions. Just because there is no advancement of a report does not mean everything is hunky dory. The imbalance that exists between offences and convictions is still grossly out of whack. That's not to say that we shouldn't be waiting for facts to be uncovered or hanging any person involved without due process. But let's at least acknowledge that a lot of women don't pursue these matters through the courts because they know the likelihood of success is minimal.

Take your own advice. It boggles the mind that someone who enjoys what Demonland offers, free of charge if you wish, would be critical of the owner having the audacity to take precautionary measures against any possible legal action or its potential closure. When you run your own footy forum, you can opt to be a lot looser on the naming of names in a matter such as this

You're going off your head without knowing all the circumstances. Save the hysterics for if we miss finals. I get it. The manner we bowed out last season was another disappointment in a long line of disappointments. But there is a danger of letting the club's history cloud judgement of the present. The Petracca/Oliver generation don't own the last decade of failure.

It's obviously less than ideal but it's little more than ammunition for opposition fans and media to peddle the "Melbourne is soft" campaign and older generations to make fun of millennials. It would be a story regardless, but it's a bigger story because it fits a convenient narrative. If the Sydney playing group had done the same thing it would be almost a non-issue. Like everything else - win games and it is soon forgotten about.

Keen on retaining that title aren't you mate?

Nibbler, ANB, or as Danny Frawley calls him, "Bullen". At the risk of putting the mozz on him, I'm excited by this fella. All his stats are trending upwards after a signficant step forward last season. As an elite runner and steadily improving his all round game he could become a valuable long term asset in the midfield. Historically he has split opinion, although majority view has been "useful foot soldier". I'm interested in how posters view him on the back of quietly impressive 2017 season. How do you see him progressing next season? More importantly, what is his eventual ceiling?

Can't find the 2016 thread. Here's the 2017 one:

Place your predictions for any individual or the team as a whole, good or bad, for season 2018. Closest to the pin with their quality and quantity of predictions will win the heralded Demonland Crystal Ball. Previous DCB winners 2016: wretched.sylph 2017: ding

Picked up by Port with pick 61. Best of luck to him, ripper young fella, In other new, Port apparently view us as a feeder club.

We got him

Interesting read, cheers. Re Balic, I've placed him as High scope for a few reasons. First is the amount of football he's missed due to a wrist injury which wiped out his entire first year. Talent aside, he has played just the four games in two years so he's barely scraped the surface as an AFL player. His first run around the oval trailing the rest of the pack shows he is yet to acclimatise to an AFL environment and standard. Second is how highly he's rated by pretty much anyone familiar with him. Phantom drafters. Fremantle fans (granted they were sorry to lose Michie as well, but they seem more sorry about Balic ). Mahoney has said the club has always rated him very highly since the 2015 draft. Finally he has the look of a good player in the making. His basketball background shows with his spatial awareness and smooth moving. Even with limited opportunity he has shown he's a goal kicker. Ovviously it is still speculative, but when you combine those three factors I'm comfortable placing him as High scope. 2018 will tell us a lot more about the player we have acquired.

All reasonable calls. I think we've seen what Viney's best looks like already, as in individual games. It's a matter of him stringing 15-20 of them together in a season or consecutive seasons. In that sense he does have another level to go to, but I think we know what his best or certainly close to his best football looks like. Oliver is difficult to place because it begs the question, how much better can he actually get given he's performing at such a ridiculously high level already? I'd be happy placing him in high scope, but God help the rest of the comp if he's only tickling the surface now. Hunt can and will improve but needs to further tidy up his kicking and I'm unconvinced of the extent to which he can do that. He's a weapon no doubt but I have him medium as I think he will always be dangerous, but untidy. O Mac is still very raw. He frustrates like only a McDonald can do, but if he continues on the developmental arc he's on I think he'll become an A grade defender. Just needs time. More size. More awareness. More confidence. i like the romance around Vanders and as a fellow Canberra product I'd love him to turn into Clint's vandenFyfe or Ox 2.0, but at this stage I think it's unlikely. He has improvement in him no doubt, and he has assets which should see him remain on the list. Kent I would possibly change to low scope in retrospect. That said, he is capable of much better than what we saw this year. And I doubt we've seen his best. Stretch was a major disappointment in 2017, but he's still young. I place him into medium partly because the kid has the drive to be great. When you're a mentor for Oliver at his age, you've got something going. I'm a JKH believer. We're a dying breed but there's still a few of us left

Cheers. Interested to know what changes you'd make/who you'd slot differently, i realised I left out Filipovic and Tim Smith but can't edit posts after a certain time.

Nathan Jones, 2013 - In a 2 win season, his support in the midfield comprised of a barely interested Colin Sylvia and Jones of the Matt variety. Still, he busted his guts every week giving Demons fans everywhere a reason to keep believing in brighter days ahead. B and F. No All Australian selection. A tonne of respect.