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Check the vid: Toumpas goes to tackle Lonie as he runs pass and bandpasses to Stevens - which effectively frees up Montagna. Viney was running in behind, and should have realised what was going on, but let Montagna run straight past. They'll both learn. Of course, a) the ball should never have been down there in the first place, it should have been tied up in the centre square and b) the St Kilda forward line should have been so clogged up with Melbourne players, there should never have been space for Montagna or Stevens or whoever to run anywhere.

Sorry, but ridiculous post, ridiculous comments, and not even accurate. Though you're not Robinson Crusoe. We "got in front" with 40 seconds to go. Roos sent out the message, but that's not the point - he shouldn't even have to, the players should know what to do - and probably do. But as always with Melbourne, they don't do what they should do, and don't do what they're instructed to do. But as I posted on another thread, we should never have been defending a 4 point lead with 40 seconds to go - we had our chances, and we gave St Kilda plenty. The fault lies in poor decisions and poor execution when the decisions were correct. Mitchie and Riley in particular are liabilities in this regard. I'd love to see those "marks from opposition kicks" and "scores from turnovers" stats - we must be leading them across the AFL.

We did NOT lose because of the coaching. We should never have been in the position of having to defend a 4 point lead in the first place. The "blame Roos" argument is just lazy and superficial. Paul Roos is NOT why we're losing games we should and could win.

If we lose this, it'll be through poor kicks/disposals. Just giving it away too often. That Mitchie kick across ground to a 2 on 1 against us ... just one more poor decision. Will come over time with experience etc., but frustrating to watch. Missing two gettables from Hogan and Watts hasn't helped - though they've both had great games.

Jimmy Toumpas. Go for it son. Time to eat some crow by a few around here.

Stretch OK for mine. Looks more at home than in his earlier matches. ANB just not quite up to speed yet. Still a half to go ... Nev Jetta gradually getting his touch back.

My man, Jimmy Toumpas. Nice handball.

Is it not possible for people to look at the entirety of a player's game, and not just the fault/errors? 7 possessions, 2 tackles and a mark. There are a LOT of Melbourne players nowhere near that at quarter time.

At least he's getting his hands on the ball. FFS.

Right on cue ... must have been following this thread.

Like you promised to leave Demonland?

It's just a footy match. They come round every week. This one is no more or less important.

Perhaps you could show us the long line of blue chip midfielders queuing up to go to any club. About the only one last year was Beams to the Lions - for family reasons as much as anything. 2013 ... I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong, but there were no blue chip midfielders who changed clubs. etc. etc.

He already is. This is the best they can manage. (For the moment.)

Yes, not sure what's going on with Newton. Early in the season he seemed like a great pickup - last few matches, he hasn't really contributed much. Not sure what his contract situation is, perhaps give him another season, but for what he's currently offering, I'm just about ready to pass his guernsey to ANB. In terms of management and spots opening up, we're missing Trengove and Petracca. OK, maybe Trengove is done, but whatever their place in the order or things, it leaves us 2 mids down (as opposed to two forwards or whatever), which then pushes the Newtons and Matt Jones's forward a couple of places in the queue. Hope Viney is OK for next week. 6 day turnaround isn't going to help a bad corkie.

Thought Watts was decent - but only watching on TV, so as always, you miss what's going on off the ball. Jack is a receiver and distributor. If he can do that well, or very well, he'll be a real asset. He'll never be a pack-marking mongrel, or inside player, or tackling machine. So be it. I just hope he gets a bit of confidence back - when he's "on", there are few who can weight a football to advantage like our Jack.

Disappointed to have lost, but a decent response after the week before. Same old story though: indecision, turnovers, poor skills/execution - including from some of our better players. Seems like Viney gives away a goal a match with a miskick. But, slowly but surely, there's improvement in there. Let's not forget we only managed 3 goals in this round last year. At the moment though, we just don't have the depth to have players out: Salem, Tyson, maybe Dawes, have the ability to make a difference, but then throw in likely starters like Kent, JKH, Frost, etc., not to mention Petracca and Trengove. Feel that it's those last 4 or 5 players picked who are the difference between being more seriously competitive, and being frustratingly close. Not to mention, those bottom 4 or 5, really expose the 4 or 5 just above them, and then it just all falls in a heap.

Tyson for VDB would be about it, perhaps Fitzy, depending on match ups, but he wasn't out worst, and got better as the game wore on. Next cab off the rank for a change/out would be Newton. Started the season well, but wheels seem to have come off somewhere along the way. Rather than in/outs making a difference, there are players who need to get back to their best: Tommy Mac, Jetta and Viney to name but 3.

Not bad. We'll probably lose, but not through a lack of endeavour. Skills, turnovers, experience, killing us, but a lot to like.

Great hand pass to Bradshaw from Jimmy Toumpas to start the chain that lead to Garlett's goal.

The whole team is a rabble, and you pick out one player.

Collingwood looking very good. Too many weak links in the chain for Melbourne for the moment. Viney, Jetta look underdone/off the pace. Howe looking decent, one of the few positives.

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Robbie and Pitmaster, thanks for your excellent posts. Reason and insight.

Think they'll give ANB a couple more at Casey. Tyson definitely in, then let's see what else presents itself. Salem must only be a couple of weeks away as well.