Adam The God

Who do you support? Watts or the coach and the FD of the MFC?

Don't bother stating you WILL stab him in the back. It's all you've done for days.

Goodwin's back is sore enough, mate.

Surely this is what we've been working on since the Lever trade...

Wouldn't be my choice, but you have to login with it every day, mate.

I'm near convinced it has something to do with also getting back into the first rounder by trading with one of the academy clubs. Watch this space.

I'm hoping ETtradebreaker will provide an adequate distraction...

If you haven't been stabbing Goodwin in the back for the past 200 pages, Bobby, I don't think anyone has.

Keep it generic. Demonboy/girl4evs. Something like that. Always goes down a treat.

Decent beer actually. You might need to look at changing that screen name, mate. I'd suggest staying away from Kent, Hogan or Tyson.

You're right, mate. We've been there and done that. Let's not go down that path again.

I don't agree with the view that this is all on Goodwin. Absolutely no way he overrules the rest of the FD and pulls the leadership group along with him. They all seem to be on the same page with this. I think some here need to accept that the wider club want Jack moved on. We need to leave this fantasyland that casts Goodwin as the evil dictator, because it's laughable and so obviously untrue and conspiratorial. Could we have handled it better? Potentially. Is division amongst the supporter base healthy? No. You don't have to support the club on every decision, but don't confuse that with undermining the administration and its FD. So stop yourself from stabbing our Head Coach in the back every second post.

I had thought this too, but I'm not sure the deals are connected and unless we're asking Watts' suitors for two picks (in order to give a later pick to Freo for Balic), Watts' deal shouldn't factor into the hold up. I think it's more likely that whatever else is brewing is holding up the Balic deal.

I think that's a different point to what you seemed to be making. However, to answer this point, it may just be the evolution of FA and with the increase in the CBA, players may be happier to stay at their current club. Hence, less trades and movement.

I'd agree with 'the collective wisdom' then, but I'd also say it completely depends where your list demographic sits. Our list is at a point where it needs to add some final best 22 contributors for 2018, not 2022. It's pretty rare that someone comes in like Oliver or Hogan and becomes a pivotal player for their team from almost day dot. In order to keep our young gun group together, we need to demonstrate to them that we're ready to attack that flag next year.

Haha, I'm not quite sure. Perhaps, I was thinking the opposition might try to force us into a corner and getting the deal done by accepting a lower value for Jack, because we've 'stuffed him around'. But that might be fanciful thinking that our FD would be pressured into that.

Indeed. I'd liken it to the extinction of the gorilla handlers. We moved on our one gorilla handler in Dunn last year, for example. We are usually moving with the game or even ahead of the curve these days, so I'll back the FD in here. I keep mentioning him, but Tyson may become extinct in our set up next year too.

Lol, no doubt his dad knows more. And a bit like Lever's dad, I wouldn't be surprised if Jack's club of destination has had a quiet word to try and force our hand.

Yep, I remember reading that on here. That Roos wanted him as a big bodied mid.

So is Lever, unfortunately. Don't mess with it if it isn't broken. We've just paid an extremely high price to ensure we get our defensive lynchpin that sets up our backline. If we're looking for contingencies, I'd be looking at Schache or going to the draft. And we have Weideman developing.

I'd say we're either after someone else we rate higher (probably a mid) or our FD has ruled him out, because otherwise it seems to be a bit of a no brainer.

I guess this is the grey I was searching my own mind for, but being only one coffee down for the day, the old noggin isn't doing its thing. I'd agree with you, master, old boy, this time. Not super keen on your Mahoney bashing, but on board with this one.

I'm surprised one of us hasn't created a new account and trolled something along these lines. Especially, ETthetradebreaker. That guy's become reputable.

Yep, fair enough.

Given his dad has come out and spoken in the media, I'd say his position is now untenable.