Adam The God

Just because he doesn't offer leg speed, doesn't mean he can't improve our 22.

Who says we aren't also trying to add these? Our evident interest in Elliott is a clear sign of our intent to nab small forwards.

Sorry, the simplest way to compete is success and true success (ie winning flags). We added 8,000 members between 2018 and 2019 on the back of a walloping in a preliminary final. If we won a flag, we'd get 70,000 members. If we can have sustained success we start to convert other fickle supporters from other clubs like Essendon did in the 90s and Hawthorn have done in the 10s. We have a largely dormant supporter base too. It's not as big as the traditional Melbourne-based 'big' clubs, but that's due to years of being perennial losers. Winning flags changes that.

I want Goodwin sacked, Jones delisted and Viney traded. I hope 2020 turns out like Richmond's 2017.

I think he's become less erratic at Melbourne, but he's just not a natural footballer and decision making is very hard to teach under pressure. Certainly, if he hasn't learnt it by now at 26, he won't. I don't understand the hypocrisy from those who lament that Weideman is a bust as a 21 year old who hasn't dominated a game yet, while they applaud Frost (who has never dominated either) and is 26 years old.

I think I've seen you post this before, mate. Are these back issues chronic or recoverable over this pre season?

Mate, if he hasn't learnt the skills and decision making during his 8 years on two AFL lists, when are we hoping he does learn? After he's signed a big chunky contract with us? That'd be right. You're inconsistent, mate. You're constantly saying we're bent over and here you are, standing in a metaphorical park, waiting for a metaphorical rogering.

No. His manager said he wasn't seeking a trade. There's a difference.

Thanks WJ. I'm looking forward to the SMALL FORWARDS breakdown.

I'd move Jones on and trade Viney. But I also wouldn't keep Frost by overpaying him. Here's the problem. He's not very good. The same posters that are bemoaning Tomlinson's seeming recruitment are the same ones championing Frost's re-signing.

Personally, I'd go hard for Beveridge. Clarkson IP and with our midfield, he would set us up beautifully.

Ah, yes. Thank you for posting this on 15 threads this morning. ? Are we talking about the same Choco Williams who left the year before Richmond completely turned themselves around?

Nah, I'm sorry mate. The comparison is ridiculous because one played 7 games in two years before being traded and the other has played 139 (including 24 games each season for the last three seasons) across 8 seasons. So one (the guy we're going after) was seen fit to last 8 years on GWS' overly talented list until he finally left as a FA. Meanwhile, your comparative player lasted two years. Laughable. And I've never said I'm a big Tomlinson fan, I'm just not going to compare him to [censored] Kristian Jaksch. FWIW, I was very wrong on Jake Melksham, so I will reserve judgement on Tomlinson until I've seen him play a year or two with us. Even Melksham was ordinary in his first year with us, until he moved forward.

A quick small (like Elliott) -- King -- Hannan Fristch -- McDonald -- Melksham That is a much more potent forwardline, particularly with Petracca, Vandenberg and Harmes rotating in and out. Even if we by some chance get Elliott, I'd be recruiting another two zippy smalls. To be honest, they usually come out of WA or even SA/NT. It also relegates Weideman to third fiddle, but I could see us playing three talls against certain opponents. And for those implying King's recruitment is linked to the GF sprint, take a look at this thread - most of it prior to the Grand Final sprint. Ridiculous.

Jaksch is a completely different scenario. Jaksch never locked down a position at GWS, nor at Carlton. Tomlinson has played about every game for consistent finalists over a four year period. The comparison is ridiculous, frankly.

About bloody time. A Western Australian. Maybe our WA scout has been working...

Sorry kids sings from your exact playbook, so no one else...

Brand also means game style. And no one is saying our culture is perfect. Don't put words into our mouths.

Just tell them that they've only just levelled us for flags. Get back to us when they surpass us. (yes, I know, that could happen next year) Staggering that we haven't drafted a player from WA since Hogan in 2012. Who is our WA scout? Does anyone know? That said, we haven't had a first rounder pick since 2015 when we landed Oliver (and to a lesser extent, Weideman).

Who ever said that brand (ie game style) and culture don't mean anything? Goodwin banged on about brand all last year and I, and many others, bang on about game style all the time. Such a condescending poster at times, mate.

Interesting. I missed it.

fAcTuAl.

Exactly.

He won't seek a trade, but if we can satisfy the Suns with pick 3... Keep Petracca. Has more x factor and power than Gus or Viney. They're the ones you trade, but not for King. For other mids that can compliment Oliver, Harmes and Petracca. So good users by foot and those with a bit of gut-running and pace about them.

Continuity is definitely important, but if you get your defensive system right, we should be able to plug and play a bit, as well as cover for injuries, providing we don't have too many.