Adam The God

That's true. So excited Collingwood lost that I'm losing my marbles.

They were 5 goals up. That's some Collywobbles...

The old man just texted me to ask who won more finals this year. Collingwood or Melbourne. As we know, it was Melbourne with 2. Collingwood also only managed to beat two top 8 teams for the year. Staggering.

Could only bring myself to watch the second half, but what a game! He may have had a good second half, but Darling is an absolute crumbler. Could have cost them the flag with that simple fumble in the goal square. Anyway, Pies stuck on 15 flags and there was definitely some Collywobble there, but in the end, West Coast are a slightly better side. And we lost to the eventual Premiers, just as we did in '94.

Well, this post could have been worse...

Agreed. I've been advocating for a while that AVB and Kent weren't good enough, so it doesn't bother me. Just that the unity within the best 14-16 players is still strong.

This is more likely.

I know he was injured. Might point was across 2018 at all. I only heard there was frustration earlier in the year. But obviously I'm speculating, with very little to go on.

Unless he wanted midfield minutes...

Read the thread, HH. It's all been covered.

I'm speculating here, but I wonder if Kent, Hogan, Tyson and AVB were some of the players that didn't appreciate being played out of position earlier in 2018. I hope esprit de corps continues to strength the spirit within the group and with a couple leaving the club, I hope the boys solidify their commitment to each other like the Geelong and Hawthorn sides of the recent past.

Bloody good seats, Jack.

Premiership quality? What does that actually mean, DD? He's proved himself to be a good little role player in his first season and that includes some real impact in a final or two. What are you expecting? That every player is an A grade superstar of "premiership quality"? I know you don't think that, so I hope you'll soon see you're simply venting due to coming to grips with Jesse leaving.

Because he fills a need in our best 22 and we are in our window. FCS. You don't win premierships by playing it safe. Time to win that 13th flag. And as others have said, I doubt it will be as simple as May for a first rounder. It'll likely be May and something else (likely KK) for that first rounder.

Further, what I'm about to say may appear convenient now that he's leaving, but his lack of tackle pressure just doesn't fit our forward system. He's a very good young player and easily in the top 3 KPFs under 25 in the comp. But I back our FD to improve the list here too. I think it's a hang over of MFCSS for me, but I've always backed him in a Melbourne jumper, however never fallen in love with him like I have Clayton Oliver. I've always felt a slight fear of commitment to him as he has failed to sign that long-term deal that would have put off the constant speculation.

She lives in SA...

We get the occasional poster every year that is 'worried' that the FD won't drive a hard bargain and will get [censored] over. At what point does it become clear to some people that we are a well oiled machine these days? I suspect never.

Will have to really improve his composure with ball in hand if he's not going to be delisted at the end of 2019. With Tyson, Kent and AVB going, Vince retiring and Lewis and Jones probably in their last year, this is a very strategic decision. Perhaps he elevates from fringe to bottom 5 or 6 in 2019?

Why not, RM? It's like a poor script assessment. "Don't like it." "Why?" "Don't like it."

Grasping at straws...

The bloke can tackle and that's about it. Couldn't hit a handball target if he tried and is an ordinary kick. If we can get a 3rd or 2nd rounder, do the deal and run.

I reckon you're viewing the situation in a black and white manner. There is some grey...

Depends how many best 22 players are traded in.

Given we're really clearing out the cupboard, a number of players must be about to nominate us. Otherwise, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me given our lack of decent picks. The list strategy is clearly to up the ante now that we are in our premiership window though. Exciting.

Can't we do both? ?