Adam The God

My feeling on Mahoney is he'll stay, but I expect forward, midfield, defence and development coaches to be replaced. Yze will likely take the forwards. I wouldn't be against Richardson taking the development lead as his history is strong in this area. So then we'll be looking for a midfield and defensive coach. Let's hope we can approach some Port coaches this week and some Richmond (or even Geelong) coaches the following week.

If Martin retires, I wonder if Preuss could change his mind and try to get back to his home state...

Gee, Brisbane are crumblers. We've won more finals than them in the last 3 years. ?

It's good IMV that things haven't been announced yet. Port were only just knocked out and Richmond are still in it.

I've no particular problem with Oscar moving on and I wish him no ill will, but not sure I agree with this. The reason we were never really in consideration that year is because our defence leaked goals. IMV that is partly system, partly personnel. It's not coincidence the next off season we went after May.

If he's cheap, it doesn't bother me.

Yep, our window with our midfield and defensive core is 2021-2025. If we can win a flag or two in that time then we'll be able to prolong that window by topping up with FAs to address needs. Even better, my son will be able to grow up with a successful Melbourne. That'd be nice.

Interesting. Nice spot mate. I'd say we probably view Hind as a cheaper option than Higgins. I'd take both though.

Our bottom 6-8 aren't good enough. IMV we need to turn over that bottom half of the list to see if we can find some competent and consistent role players for 2021. Fair enough. I can see that.

We need both IMV. Smith and Phillips, that is.

Why? We need pace in the forward half. Hind knows how to find the goals. Smith and Phillips will play off half back and the wing respectively if we land them. I think we could well get them all. I'd still love Jack Higgins, but he may not want to leave Tigerland.

Agreed. The core is strong and reminds me of Richmond's side from 2013-2016. Elite core with not enough support or system around it. Role players is the way to go and then strengthen the system over summer. Reckon Hibberd can give us one-two more good season(s). Melksham could be an extra half back flanker back up, but I wouldn't have him in my team every week. Hibberd/Lockhart - May - Lever Smith - Tomlinson/Petty - Salem Phillips - Oliver - Langdon Fritsch - Weideman - Jackson Pickett - Brown - Petracca Gawn - Viney - Brayshaw Harmes - Rivers - Jack Higgins - ? small pressure forward / or can we get back into the 1st round (McRae) The forward balance is probably out still in this line up, but there's good run and carry, there's a bit more class in there by playing Fritsch up the ground, Smith, Salem. I wouldn't mind trying Salem at half forward and occasionally switching Fritsch to half back. Defensive system certainly got better this year. Our forwardline is a mess IMO, and I hope Yze can reconstruct it to ensure we get bang for buck out of midfield.

We're basing a lot of this on speculation. The speculation says Collingwood are looking at Nev for a multi-year contract. They want Nev and they're happy to part with Phillips.

No we wouldn't. They need cap relief and Nev is contracted. We have the whip hand.

Do you know anything mate or are you just running around trying to put the fire out?

I'm only disputing that West Coast remained a strong club after Judd left. It's untrue and their performances showed this.

Well, the year after he left they finished 15th (second last). The year after that 11th. The year after that 16th (last). It took them another 4 years to get back into the 8. This is with the best resources in the AFL. They didn't shrivel up, but they went from competing for flags to nowhere...

Yep, that's what I've heard too. We need to come out of the blocks like Usain Bolt next year.

Heard anything @dazzledavey36?

Lol, does that mean they're conceding they'll lose Treloar?

Yep, agreed. I'll wish him well and won't begrudge him if he moves on. Really loved the way he turned his career around and we all know how important he was in that 2018 finals push.

Oliver is a better player than Merrett. So let's just start with that. As for the idea that no player is untradeable. Sure, every player is tradeable then, but if you want to win flags you can't be trading away your very best players. Midfielders are vital to winning premierships, so I don't particularly rate the idea that Franklin leaving Hawthorn didn't impact on their flag successes. Well, great, but he's not a midfielder. Franklin wouldn't get it without Sam Mitchell extracting.

I don't think rating him differently to others despite providing a better output is the way to get the best results out of players. That's just my opinion though.

He's not on the verge of becoming an A grader. He is an A grader. He's elite in all the categories that matter for an inside mid.

We'll agree to disagree then.