Adam The God

Wow. I wasn't aware that the MEC hadn't consulted the DA, Ghosty. It's pretty clear Barlow has done nothing with it. The fact that Smith mentioned it in the email as an achievement of Green's is concerning to me. Classic spin.

It definitely is.

Professional board members? The problem is we have a long history of having successful business people (mostly men) who have had no idea how to run a football club, sit on our board. The only competent administration we've seen in my lifetime was PJ-led, when he basically ran everything and told the board to stay out of his business. As soon as they made a decision of their own (appointing Pert), they stuffed it up and the club has been on the decline from the foundations that PJ built ever since. We're now a few thousand members ahead of North Melbourne. North [censored] Melbourne. What an indictment on the foundation club that won a flag 4 years ago! And no one is being held accountable at board level for 12,000 members going missing this year. Barlow seems to have been brought onto the board for his money alone (ie Caulfield), because he's done sweet FA with member engagement when there was plenty of opportunity to do so this year. Great that you're happy to have a board stacked with nuffies slowly running the club into the ground, but I hope for King and the players' sake, we start to get the right people on who can ensure the governance of the club is overseen to a high standard. Might be a good idea to open the field a little to ensure we actually get the best candidate.

When you say the previous management, do you mean Green, Rennick and Porz? Only Rennick is leaving this year... head rots from the top.

They've named a candidate in Dan Taylor, which implicitly begins a process of electioneering. You don't name a candidate without implicitly putting forward your preferred choice. Smith has avoided saying it explicitly, but the message is the same. And as @binman put it nicely earlier in the thread, perhaps implicitly, it undermines trust in the process.

I hope you're right mate. Fast forward 3 years time and a midfield of Kozzy, Windsor, Grlj, Lindsay and Langford is box office IMO. That's your midfield core you build around. I think if we get Grlj and Dovaston this year, our list build is at the point where we can start targeting FAs. And with two first rounders next year, we have some trade capital to satisfy a Butters or Humphrey deal. I know I'm jumping ahead early, but I'd be targeting Humphrey over Butters as aside from Rivers (and Kolt?) we lack that explosive power player that Humphrey can be. Not to mention we're far more likely to land Humphrey than Butters.

Imagine if we got Grlj and Dovaston. I think both will play early next year and both be guns at AFL level.

I hope he falls to our pick, but doubt it.

Well surely, Chris Barlow has to take huge responsibility for this? He's listed as the chair of the Member Engagement Committee. melbournefc.com.auOfficial AFL Website of the Melbourne Football ClubCame onto the board this time last year and was appointed chair of MEC and in that time we've lost 12,000 members. What are they actually doing with the MEC? Why mention it in the email if it's overseen a loss of so many members? If you can't or won't engage with members, hand the chairship to someone who will. Guerra should be running this himself. The approach we should follow is what would Peter Jackson do? He'd take over the MEC and drive it himself. Then at the AGM, he'd be up there imploring members to ring up every MFC supporter they know with lapsed membership, and be telling them to jump back on board.

But publicising who it is through official channels is pushing a candidate. The board knows a signficant portion of the membership are against this.

Far out. Fancy blaming Max for not being able to control all the chaos that surrounded the FD, some of the blow torch was a direct result of the board not being able to put out a fire with a past president, so the coach had an article about him pop up every few months that would drag everyone down with it. The board then failed to get proper support around Goody and Richo, which goes to the CEO at the time, who was ultimately appointed by the board. Sure, players have responsibilities, but it's a tale as old as time. Board stability and structure helps breed on field success and vice versa.

Smith becomes the fourth president in a row to tell us who to vote for as the board fills another casual vacancy prior to board elections. His framing tries to avoid saying this, but that's what's been said here. I sound like a broken record, but Rennick said that members had given them clear feedback that we didn't like this approach. And yet they continue to do it.

I didn't say he needed to be a contested bull, but he needs to be able to win contests. You can't just receive at AFL level. You won't make it. And for a top 10 pick, that's too much of a gamble IMO.

Yep, IMV, Lindsay is a much more incisive and attacking kick than Salo is, who is more about maintaining possession. Lindsay sets up offensive chains. But the question marks over his contested ability is too much of a glaring weakness in his game for mine.

Jared Polec clone IMO.

Grjl could definitely play half forward. Just as Dovaston could. Both are great off the line and off the edge of the square. The more I watch of Grjl, the more excited I get. I just don't think he'll be on the board when it's our pick.

Any chance we could have some paragraphs, folks? 😄

Correct.

My understanding is that King definitely had a say in the Oliver trade, but otherwise agree mate.

I've shifted away from Lindsay. Love his kicking, but too many question marks over his ball winning ability. If Grjl is available I'd take him and Dovaston and that's a great injection of pace for a game style that is going to need it. The beauty of the game style McRae brought to Collingwood is the speed of ball movement was helped by 3 or 4 elite kickers they have, but all their speed forward of centre from the likes of McCreary and Hill was devastating. We already have Windsor and Kozzy's pace out of the middle, with Langdon's running power, Lindsay, Langford and Bowey's kicking. Pair this with an injection of pace from Dovaston and Grjl, and injuries permitting, we look very different next year, and not incapable of playing a fast, accurate slingshot game.

How about you wait until the draft is over before you make statements like this?

LJ wasn't in Cal's October 2019 top 10 and Kozzy wasn't in his top 30...

I think we'll be mid table.

Zero Hanger have us in the bottom 2 next season because of the loss of Clarry and Trac, and even McVee. I can't imagine we'll be bottom 2... Zero HangerCollingwood gun in AA contention after absence, Melbourne...An early look at some of the big tales that could unfold next year.

I think he could have an A grade ceiling at half back...