Adam The God

Nah, it's just all terrible. Don't bring logic in. This thread is classic Demonland. Posters have been whinging for years that we haven't been able to land anyone. The reason being, other clubs offer way overs. We are now targeting players that we think will help us, arguably with a deal that's over what their club wants to offer, and some Demonlanders (many of the same posters who have bemoaned not landing targets), are now whinging again. You can't win. It's Eeyore season.

Wow. The Suns are going to be hard to beat aren't they?

I hope Saints get him for pick 7 and the Suns trade us pick 6 and 7 for Trac (and all his salary). 🤞

I hope they are. Most of us have no idea.

I doubt either club is basing their list management decisions on your posting mate.

Perhaps, I think he could be a good defensive and burst mid, but I think he's a better half back.

Trac has to want to go to Richmond though, unless you're involving a third team in a trade there.

It's a no for mine. Sparrow and Rivers are much better midfield depth players than Macrae. But each to their own.

But you're saying average picks. Ted never said that. We will not trade Trac unless we get a decent return. That may not be x15 1st rounders, but if we could get x1st and a player or x2 1sts, I'd be very happy. And as Ted says, ensure whichever club Trac is traded to takes on his entire salary, so we can throw our hat into the Butters ring, St Kilda-style.

I can't help being popular, Bowser.

I'm wondering if he comes cheaply, knows the younger guys already through the Casey system and enables us to spend the soft cap more wisely on assistant coaches and this defacto head of footy role above Richo. Though I'm not saying the development role isn't vital, but it could well be a one year deal or a shorter term deal. I wonder if Lord Nev will become available soon.

Ann Flanders is a boring old biddy!

It's been one of our big issues. Outside of Kozzy and Fritta we have lacked game changing forwards. It's why we went hard for Watson and we should keep going hard for his type.

Thanks for this mate. It's very frustrating when Demonlanders either don't listen to (or aren't able to interpret) media commentary properly or simply post their biases as someone else's facts.

Edmund is guessing.

Mate, you flip flop on everything. We'll see you next week when you're screaming from the hills that we should trade Trac and blow Clarry.

But there's only a 5 per cent of that happening.

At least it's not [censored] Collingwood or [censored] Hawthorn. And Geelong are still 3 flags behind us.

I'd want the deal to keep our future 1st out of it. Either the deal gets done in another way or we keep Trac.

Not very cool at all.

It's always about context. If we'd just come off two straight set exits and hadn't won a flag for over 25 years, and we saw Trac as a missing piece to our midfield and forward half, we might be more aggressive in our thinking. Trac will give them 4 more years or more of quality service, but for us, we already have Clarry and Viney to bull it up. If Trac is agitating for a move, then we ask for Thilthorpe or Rachele and another pick, and we move on.

The pick could land us another small forward that could add to a mosquito fleet around Fritta, JVR and say Mihocek/Melksham. Players like Lachy Dovaston and/or Latrelle Sumner-Pickett. We're not getting Thilthorpe, but we might get a Victorian who we showed interest in last off season, in Rachele. The thing we've lacked, aside from aggressive ball movement, is x factor, ground level forward half players that can hit the scoreboard. If we're going to play aggressive game, we'll need small forwards who can make something out of dirty entries. And knowing some of the kickers in our team, there'll be plenty of dirty entries. Collingwood and Geelong have shown over a number of years now that dirty entries are just as dangerous as perfectly directed entries.

Rachele's goal return: 2022 - 17.11 2023 - 23.25 2024 - 30.17 2025 - 27.15 After Fritta and Kozzy, he'd be comfortably our next consistently highest over that period. He'd walk straight into our forwardline. He's the perfect sort of player for our new King ping™, defensive half slingshot game. If you want to play quickly, you need guys that can get it done on the ground and know where the goals are. He'd be huge.

This is the one and they pay 1mill pa of Trac's contract.

Have you labelled our list manager a "moron" or repeatedly said McAdams is unfit? If not, you're in the clear.